Bioshock - Page 2

4x0n · 23-August-07, 01:23 PM

Wasn't talking about key mapping, more on the line of the EXTREME mouse acceleration which can't be turned off. Very useful for analog sticks but utterly horrid for mice.

eascarface · 23-August-07, 01:44 PM

I'm playing DX2 and the controls don't seem bad at all. It's not too smooth but they're ok. No Bioshock here in Qatar yet though.

NCXCStud · 23-August-07, 02:31 PM

Hmm no bugs or workarounds for me...

Oh wait...i'm playing it on the 360, I don't really have to bother with those anymore

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Master Yunk · 23-August-07, 04:18 PM

I've played through quite a bit of the game, i have the delightful crossbow now

I haven't had a single problem, I think the basic keyset is fine, and normally i'm a nazi about the crouch button being shift, but it didn't bother me cause it TOGGLES!!!

I haven't seen any pointer acceleration or anything, the only thing I've had a problem with is getting my crossbow bolts back from Big Daddies (They do a lot of dmg to them), and picking up certain items under in game objects like debris, but it wasn't anything that a good crow--wrench smack couldn't fix.

yes, I almost said crowbar.

Gzim · 23-August-07, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NCXCStud


	Hmm no bugs or workarounds for me... Oh wait...i'm playing it on the 360, I don't really have to bother with those anymore .

Highfive! :angrygame:angrygame

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Originally Posted by Master Yunk


	I haven't seen any pointer acceleration or anything, the only thing I've had a problem with is getting my crossbow bolts back from Big Daddies (They do a lot of dmg to them), and picking up certain items under in game objects like debris, but it wasn't anything that a good crow--wrench smack couldn't fix.

Have you gotten the upgrade for the crossbow that increases the strength of the bolts? They don't always survive after impact...

SexyPants · 23-August-07, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Yunk


	I haven't seen any pointer acceleration or anything, the only thing I've had a problem with is getting my crossbow bolts back from Big Daddies (They do a lot of dmg to them), and picking up certain items under in game objects like debris, but it wasn't anything that a good crow--wrench smack couldn't fix. .

I didn't even know you could get them back. I never used bolts on the big daddies because I figured it wouldn't work. Instead I laid traps everywhere

Gzim · 23-August-07, 09:36 PM

I could never get the trap bolts to work right, incendiary bolts are awesome against big daddies though...

Master Yunk · 23-August-07, 10:41 PM

Actually, they almost never shattered on me BEFORE i got the reinforcement.

Most of the time I use them for 1hits in regular splicers, you can see a big red bolt stickin out of their necks afterwards.

PS. I love the stealth biomod.

I think I'm almost done

Gzim · 23-August-07, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Yunk


	Actually, they almost never shattered on me BEFORE i got the reinforcement. Most of the time I use them for 1hits in regular splicers, you can see a big red bolt stickin out of their necks afterwards. PS. I love the stealth biomod. I think I'm almost done

Is that the natural camouflage? I never got that one to work right, I swear I'd be standing still listening to a diary and cracking a lock and wham splicer behind me.

SexyPants · 24-August-07, 03:37 AM

Just beat it. Apparently if you harvest just one girl you get a pretty rotten ending.

4x0n · 24-August-07, 04:36 AM

I remember in one preview where it was stated that if you wanted to harvest the little girls you'd be extremely hard pressed since the big daddies wouldn't go down without a huge amount of battering, what happened?

I have to say, the more I hear of this game the less excited I become.

SexyPants · 24-August-07, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 4x0n


	I remember in one preview where it was stated that if you wanted to harvest the little girls you'd be extremely hard pressed since the big daddies wouldn't go down without a huge amount of battering, what happened? I have to say, the more I hear of this game the less excited I become.

I wouldn't take it that far. If you play the demo and like it, you'll still probably like the game. But the Big Daddy aspect bugs me. I liked the idea of the girls being a really tempting opportunity for ADAM but at a high cost. The thing is, before you move on if you haven't dealt with each girl and big daddy you get a reminder saying "you'll really need that ADAM". You don't HAVE to defeat each Big Daddy (and they are difficult, especially at the beginning) but it's really not that optional.

Gzim · 24-August-07, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Sexy_Pants_


	I wouldn't take it that far. If you play the demo and like it, you'll still probably like the game. But the Big Daddy aspect bugs me. I liked the idea of the girls being a really tempting opportunity for ADAM but at a high cost. The thing is, before you move on if you haven't dealt with each girl and big daddy you get a reminder saying "you'll really need that ADAM". You don't HAVE to defeat each Big Daddy (and they are difficult, especially at the beginning) but it's really not that optional.

Once I had some armor piercing ammo, Big Daddys weren't too bad, just have to make sure you have maxed out your eve and health packs, have a decent enough area to fight in, and have good power weapons (armor piercing anything, anything grenades) I was a bit disappointed how easy they were to kill, I mean, with the no death penalty it doe kind of make any challenge much less of a challenge, but I respect their decision to make death meaningless....

NCXCStud · 24-August-07, 10:16 PM

The Elite bouncer big daddys are tough though. Much tougher than the 'rosie' variety...

Master Yunk · 24-August-07, 10:45 PM

Beat the game on hard/Harvester.

The Final Boss fight is EASIER than killing a Big Daddy.

Now for Medium/Girl Saver.

Decent ending for the "false ending"

reflux · 26-August-07, 12:53 PM

I've got to the Arcadia level, and I'm enjoying it so far. It isn't quite what the hype made it out to be, but don't get me wrong, it's a good solid shooter. I was a bit disappointed with the graphics though - this is the Unreal 3 engine, and I can run everything on max with just an 8800GTS 320mb?!

However, the game is beautiful, and I do tend to spend a fair while gawking at it. The sound is absolutely excellent, and the voice acting the best I've heard in any game. It really adds to the illusion. In-game art and advertising are lovingly created as well - there is so much creativity behind this game, you really appreciate the effort that has been involved.

I've taken out three Big Daddies so far, and I kinda feel like its a bit of a waste of time...they have persistent health, which makes defeating them a snap...all they really seem to be is a receptacle for grenades, armour-piercing bullets etc.

The little things are what I like the most though. It reminds me of Deus Ex in the freeform way in which you can fight. I love hacking a few security bots and letting them do my dirty work for me. And the effect on your hand when you activate the ice plasmid - it's gruesome but looks so real!

Anyways, all in all, a really good game, but not quite excellent.

EDIT: If any of you UK lot are looking to purchase it, go to Virgin Megastores. It was £25 there for the standard edition, everywhere else was £30 and HMV was £35!!

PHLAK · 27-August-07, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by _Sexy_Pants_


	Just beat it. Apparently if you harvest just one girl you get a pretty rotten ending.

Thanks for the heads up, I have yet to harvest one.

Wafflesomd · 28-August-07, 12:02 AM

Wow, this game is not that great

According to Master Yunk, in order for there to actually be a story line, you have to listen to the audio diaries, which if you ask me, is stupid.

Bioshock: Story line is optional.

23-August-07, 01:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
4x0n Proud New Daddy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reykjavík, Iceland Posts: 2,067	Wasn't talking about key mapping, more on the line of the EXTREME mouse acceleration which can't be turned off. Very useful for analog sticks but utterly horrid for mice. __________________ "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad."

23-August-07, 02:31 PM	#23 (permalink)
NCXCStud Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 712	Hmm no bugs or workarounds for me... Oh wait...i'm playing it on the 360, I don't really have to bother with those anymore . __________________ Currently at Lutheran Theological Southern Seminary on a path, called by God, to serve his church as an ordained Lutheran minister. Pray for me, pray really hard

23-August-07, 04:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
Master Yunk D.O.A. Tournament Champion Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 2,025	I've played through quite a bit of the game, i have the delightful crossbow now I haven't had a single problem, I think the basic keyset is fine, and normally i'm a nazi about the crouch button being shift, but it didn't bother me cause it TOGGLES!!! I haven't seen any pointer acceleration or anything, the only thing I've had a problem with is getting my crossbow bolts back from Big Daddies (They do a lot of dmg to them), and picking up certain items under in game objects like debris, but it wasn't anything that a good crow--wrench smack couldn't fix. yes, I almost said crowbar. __________________ Aspire to be what people want most so that you man have the pleasure of denying them of it. - Me

23-August-07, 10:41 PM	#28 (permalink)
Master Yunk D.O.A. Tournament Champion Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 2,025	Actually, they almost never shattered on me BEFORE i got the reinforcement. Most of the time I use them for 1hits in regular splicers, you can see a big red bolt stickin out of their necks afterwards. PS. I love the stealth biomod. I think I'm almost done __________________ Aspire to be what people want most so that you man have the pleasure of denying them of it. - Me

24-August-07, 04:36 AM	#31 (permalink)
4x0n Proud New Daddy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reykjavík, Iceland Posts: 2,067	I remember in one preview where it was stated that if you wanted to harvest the little girls you'd be extremely hard pressed since the big daddies wouldn't go down without a huge amount of battering, what happened? I have to say, the more I hear of this game the less excited I become. __________________ "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad."

23-August-07, 01:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
eascarface Apex Tech God Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doha, Qatar Posts: 3,386	I'm playing DX2 and the controls don't seem bad at all. It's not too smooth but they're ok. No Bioshock here in Qatar yet though.

23-August-07, 09:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,865	I could never get the trap bolts to work right, incendiary bolts are awesome against big daddies though...

24-August-07, 03:37 AM	#30 (permalink)
SexyPants 5-Hoe-1 Jeans Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans Posts: 3,172	Just beat it. Apparently if you harvest just one girl you get a pretty rotten ending.

24-August-07, 10:16 PM	#34 (permalink)
NCXCStud Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 712	The Elite bouncer big daddys are tough though. Much tougher than the 'rosie' variety... __________________ Currently at Lutheran Theological Southern Seminary on a path, called by God, to serve his church as an ordained Lutheran minister. Pray for me, pray really hard

24-August-07, 10:45 PM	#35 (permalink)
Master Yunk D.O.A. Tournament Champion Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 2,025	Beat the game on hard/Harvester. The Final Boss fight is EASIER than killing a Big Daddy. Now for Medium/Girl Saver. Decent ending for the "false ending" __________________ Aspire to be what people want most so that you man have the pleasure of denying them of it. - Me

26-August-07, 12:53 PM	#36 (permalink)
reflux Sempr0n? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leeds/Ipswich, UK Posts: 3,532	I've got to the Arcadia level, and I'm enjoying it so far. It isn't quite what the hype made it out to be, but don't get me wrong, it's a good solid shooter. I was a bit disappointed with the graphics though - this is the Unreal 3 engine, and I can run everything on max with just an 8800GTS 320mb?! However, the game is beautiful, and I do tend to spend a fair while gawking at it. The sound is absolutely excellent, and the voice acting the best I've heard in any game. It really adds to the illusion. In-game art and advertising are lovingly created as well - there is so much creativity behind this game, you really appreciate the effort that has been involved. I've taken out three Big Daddies so far, and I kinda feel like its a bit of a waste of time...they have persistent health, which makes defeating them a snap...all they really seem to be is a receptacle for grenades, armour-piercing bullets etc. The little things are what I like the most though. It reminds me of Deus Ex in the freeform way in which you can fight. I love hacking a few security bots and letting them do my dirty work for me. And the effect on your hand when you activate the ice plasmid - it's gruesome but looks so real! Anyways, all in all, a really good game, but not quite excellent. EDIT: If any of you UK lot are looking to purchase it, go to Virgin Megastores. It was £25 there for the standard edition, everywhere else was £30 and HMV was £35!! __________________

28-August-07, 12:02 AM	#38 (permalink)
Wafflesomd Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,923	Wow, this game is not that great According to Master Yunk, in order for there to actually be a story line, you have to listen to the audio diaries, which if you ask me, is stupid. Bioshock: Story line is optional.