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Old 22-April-05, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello
Ok Here is my problem
I have windows xp pro installed on my pc I got partition magic 8 and created a linux partition, I then restarted my pc with the SUSE Linux OS and installed it on that partition. The Linux didn't work so i decided
that i didn't want it anymore so I went back to Windows and delete it the partition I thought everything was good, boy was I wrong. I then restarted my pc and i can't get into windows it just takes me to a screen with grub <---- what is grub. Is there a way i can boot back to my windows partition. Please Help

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Old 22-April-05, 05:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello
Ok Here is my problem
I have windows xp pro installed on my pc I got partition magic 8 and created a linux partition, I then restarted my pc with the SUSE Linux OS and installed it on that partition. The Linux didn't work so i decided
that i didn't want it anymore so I went back to Windows and delete it the partition I thought everything was good, boy was I wrong. I then restarted my pc and i can't get into windows it just takes me to a screen with grub <---- what is grub. Is there a way i can boot back to my windows partition. Please Help

If my explanation is not clear let me know.

HERE is some if from one of the links:



LILO and GRUB
Both the newer GRUB and the older LILO are boot loaders. They make it possible for you to select the operating system to boot at the boot time. Most (all?) of the booting problems described in this section can likely be overcome by installing the most recent Linux kernel and the latest GRUB boot loader. GRUB is better than LILO because LILO relies on the absolute hard drive addresses to find the boot image, while GRUB understands the filesystems and looks for a file containing the boot image. We recommend using GRUB when given a choice during the installation.
It's a Linux boot loader

You have to remove grub from the mbr.

Here is a good last resort tto try.
Uninstalling Linux



howto remove GRUB from the partition using fdisk ?

Part 4: Linux Newbie Administrator FAQ :



Want to remove linux completly - GRUB still present

FDISK /MBR Rewrites the Master Boot Record :
SUMMARY

The MS-DOS Fdisk utility usually updates the master boot record (MBR) only if no master boot record exists. Repartitioning with Fdisk does not rewrite this information.

Fdisk has an undocumented parameter called /mbr that causes it to write the master boot record to the hard disk without altering the partition table information.

WARNING: Writing the master boot record to the hard disk in this manner can make certain hard disks partitioned with SpeedStor unusable. It can also cause problems for some dual-boot programs and disks with more than four partitions.



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Old 22-April-05, 05:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks CubanConnectionZ

But i'm still a little confuse where do I type the fdisk command in the grub screen because I can type commands in that screen. Or do i use the windows xp repair tool and do it there.
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Old 22-April-05, 06:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks CubanConnectionZ

But i'm still a little confuse where do I type the fdisk command in the grub screen because I can type commands in that screen. Or do i use the windows xp repair tool and do it there.

Apparently, MS FDISK does not always cope with removing the Linux partitions. In this case, I may use linux fdisk. The simplest may be to boot from the Linux installation floppy/CD, and to remove the partition using the Linux partitioning tool when it pops up during the "installation" procedure. After that I abort the "installation" and Linux is gone.

Now, for the solution: If you wan to wipe drive.
  • -Take the win9X floppy,
  • -boot from this floppy,
  • -type: fdisk /mbr
  • -repartition with fdisk (dont forget to keep 2 Gig for Linux (do not partion this explicidly, just leave it unused) in an extended partition in case you want to try linux again)
  • -install M$ Windows...
  • -get your projekt done
  • -get Linux back on your PC (we are a Linux List, I have to say this :-)
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Old 22-April-05, 06:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for the help

Let me know if this might solve the problem
I booted with the windows xp cd and went to the repair tool
and there it has a command to repair the mbr, can that fix my problem. I typed the command
FIXMBR and it gave gave all types of warnings one saying that if i proceed i might not be able to boot anything, I did not continue cause i dont want to lose everything until i know thats the only thing to do.
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Old 22-April-05, 08:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks for the help

Let me know if this might solve the problem
I booted with the windows xp cd and went to the repair tool
and there it has a command to repair the mbr, can that fix my problem. I typed the command
FIXMBR and it gave gave all types of warnings one saying that if i proceed i might not be able to boot anything, I did not continue cause i dont want to lose everything until i know thats the only thing to do.

Good idea on stoping don't risk you data. We need a linux pimp's help on this one.
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Old 22-April-05, 09:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The reason Suse didn't install is because you need more than one partition to run it. Making one Linux partition won't work. Linux usually requires 3 partitions to be made, A root partition, A home partition and a Swap partition is recommended unless you have over 2GB of ram. Suse has a tool in the setup to make the partitions. Or if you just make a fat32 or NTFS partition before hand you can have it just use that whole partition and it will make partitions by itself out of that partition.

If you need Linux help feel free to Message me on AIM or MSN.

Oh and you can do a fixmbr, that's just a dumby warning microsoft put's in to warn people. All it is going to do is rewrite the original windows boot loader so Grub (a linux boot loader that will boot linux or windows) isn't there anymore...
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Old 22-April-05, 09:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks elitelilnoyd for the help.
I'm pleased to hear that using fixmbr would fix my problem.
If anybody has anymore sugestion please let me know.


Oh by the way elitelilnoyd when I created the partition I used partition magic and I made the partition to be a linux partition and when I installed the SUSE Linux it created all three partitions within the one i created.
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Old 22-April-05, 10:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks elitelilnoyd for looking out for fellow pimps
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Old 22-April-05, 11:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So then what was the problem with SuSE?
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Old 23-April-05, 11:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think it was not recognizing my monitor It just stay with a black screen with the mouse being and X. So i decided I didn't want it anymore. My monitor is a NEC FE700. I did see my video card. I'm not going to try to install it again i'll sticl with windows for now.
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Old 23-April-05, 02:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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are you installing 9.3 by chance?or upgrading kde to 3.4 on an earlier version?
if you use an nvidia card just use the default nv driver then go into yast and d/l the nvidia driver to get 3-d.it's not the latest one but easy to install through point-n-click.installing the binary driver lets you use the latest one and there are suse specific instructions on the d/l page.there were some issues with the drivers after 6629 running on 6.10+ kernels,but 7174 fixes most of those.

*H=31-70kHz ,V=55-120Hz manually editing your x config with the proper values might help,but it sounds more like a window manager or desktop environment issue.

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Old 23-April-05, 04:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well actually I was trying to install 9.2 Pro. My computer does have and Nvidia card
and I didn't know those issues you are talking about before hand, so thats why i deleted the partition thinking there was something wrong with the OS. And thats how my problems began.
Well my computer is back up and running now. So thanks Guys for helping me out.
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