Zer0s

as have i, when i installed SP2 i had shortcuts everywhere, crap on my desktop, my WMP wouldnt play any of my video, and there was considerable lag everywhere. i did a system restore and it fix all the problems. i woud use SP2 until i feel all the bugs are gone.

TekXoID

If you have issues with SP2, it's your fault.

turbopsi

Quote: Originally Posted by TekXoID If you have issues with SP2, it's your fault.

Yeah, it's my fault for downloading it, and not setting a restore point because Sp2 sucks! I keep my computer totally clean, and virus free, and defragged whenever needed.

corruptjoker

Unless everyone else has a different thing than me you can uninstall sp2 from add remove programs and sp2 also sets a restore point while installing.

turbopsi

o.O Never thought to look in the add/remove programs list. My dumbass deleted the restore point, because I thought everything was fine. I hope uninstalling this, doesn't F*ck my OS up.

TekXoID

It's likely that SP2 will damage an existing installation because of conflicts with previous microsoft
patches and/or the major driver swapping involved, everything from networking to USB.

Installing MS service packs on existing installations has never been a problem free process.
If you want SP2, slipstream it, and start fresh. IMO, it's worth it. Especially if you are formatting anyway.

Fu3lman

for me, SP2 fixed:

>>nothing, aside from adding cute "enhancements" to IE...most of which i had MUCH better 3rd party versions of...

but it BROKE:

>>force feedback for my dualshock 2 to usb adapter....or for any controller using a rumble feature...

>>PJ64 (same memory error, probably from trying to write to a protected area that wasnt being used by earlier versions of XP)

>>broke several DLLs that i needed regularly...especially in VB....mostly with ActiveX

>>dramatically increased my boot up time, and created strange entries in my registry that prompted errors on shutdown...

the whole experience felt like a rushed attempt to make sure your computer was protected from vulnerabilities (that shouldnt have been there anyway), but in the process, made serious sacrifices to other areas...some of which we are beginning to notice...

wether or not these symptoms occur on a fresh install of windows xp is completely immaterial, updating to SP1 was never this much of a headache...and its microsofts fault if you are forced to have to reformat because their update didnt warn you that you might have to do just that if you dont have a fresh install...

updates are intended to improve things, if i dont see an improvement, then i dont guess its an update as opposed to something like...i dunno...a virus?

EDIT: my point is this, its up to microsoft to make sure that its consumers arent taking a risk by updating with software that they have deemed "safe, needed, critical, important, necessary, etc"....otherwise, the installation app should force you to reformat before it even installs SP2....

Crazy_J

Microsoft did recommend backing up all your data before installing SP2. If you don't like it, install Linux

Fu3lman

Quote: Originally Posted by Crazy_J Microsoft did recommend backing up all your data before installing SP2. If you don't like it, install Linux

theres a clear difference between "recommend backing up your data" and "there is a possibility that this update will ruin your windows installation"...even if it only happens to power users who have patches, updates, and frickin pinatas on their hard drives, they should be MUCH more clear about the risks of this, and as far as im concerned, even if they were up front about it, it wouldnt be so much a question of their honesty, but a question of their competence for releasing something that requires a surgeon generals warning....

alot of people PAID for windows, and if THEY dont like it, its called a CLASS ACTION.....how would you feel if you bought a new car, and they recalled it so they could fix something...you trusted them with it and sent it in, and they broke it....hey, if you dont like it, walk?

turbopsi

Haha, good point. I just uninstalled Sp2 from the add/remove programs option. I was nervous, but I think it worked, no problems as of right now, and it even started up quicker. Good ol' service pack 1.

Fu3lman

im using SP1 as we speak, and im not touching SP2 until it promises to....

A: not leave me with a look on my face that usually follows a "oh my fucκing god NO!!!"

B: doesent add 3 days to my startup time

C: quits messing with DLLs, OCXs, and memory permissions given to TSRs and bg services, so that the programs that were written to work on XP....WORK on XP...without having to fight over a hex address or ramge...

i think i would rather deal with the sickness if the cure is worse than the symptons...

pp79wc

You know when a program severly boggs down our system or creates bugs in our applications we usually say the code is corrupt. It happened to me too. Like a fool, I took Microsoft's word and installed SP2. As a result 1- Nero was no longer compatible with my system 2- My games froze on loading 3- Bearshare wasn't able to connect to anyone for downloads, even when I configured the SP2 add ons to allow bearshare 4- My Internet Explorer went haywire and stopped displaying web pages or only displayed peices of them and 5- My startup sequence time doubled!!! This is a warning for anyone not sure about SP2. Do not install Service Pack 2 until microsoft fixes the severe problems it puts on our computers! Once I uninstalled SP2 all the problems mysteriously went away. Lets' see, they weren't there before SP2 - They were there once I installed it - They were gone when I uninstalled it. Let's do the math. Microsoft blew it ! The added security features were a very good idea, but the implementation was incredibly poor. I actually spoke to a Win XP tech Rep yesterday and he informed me that SP2 doesn't really update much on XP. He said it adds to XP, he further said that SP2 doubles the size of Windows XP. If Microsoft is going to double the size of windows shouldn't they make sure the code isn't corrupt? It's not like this is an isolated incedent. Look at how many people have posted problems on this thread. After speaking with the tech rep I was sent an email to post my comments and suggestions. I think we should all go there and make Microsoft aware of what their precious SP2 is doing to our computers.

Highperf15

Heh.......I tried to install it.......and it "FAILED".........I am glad it did.......and all the SP2 thing you can do with 3rd party software such as firewall programs and such.....so I'm not touching it.....

ERAD Caz

http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread.php?t=20910

Called Microsoft, to see if they can do anything. And unlike all the things I've heard about customer service, they were nice and not too long on hold. Although the guy told me the obvious, that it's the mobo's fault, I still hope I wasn't charged for the call. I don't blame SP2 totally, but maybe it was some bug or something, that "locked" my motherboard from allowing me access to anything. But, all I know is I'm completely screwed. If there isn't a way to get around this annoying error screen, I have a $180 useless mobo.

Zer0s

Quote: Originally Posted by TekXoID If you have issues with SP2, it's your fault.

and thus, why i used a restore point and not using it anymore.

TekXoID

Blame yourselves. SP2 is flawless if installed the proper way. (Slipstream)

Zer0s

i ran mine through updates and it messed my box up, and yes it cause ME problems, so IVE gotten rid of tit. (isnt this an SP2 troubles thread)

FoeHammer

I've found SP2 to be not much of a help or hinderance.

It's nice that there are less security holes, but Windows-style nagging about auto update and the security suite are a pain in the ass. I turned most of that sh!t off.

I installed it on all my machines and the only problem I've run into is that I had to patch StyleXP on my main rig. Other than that I've not noticed any more problems. Guess I lucked out, after reading all these horror stories.

Of couse, I have a ghost image on stand by at the slightest hint of trouble. *crosses fingers*