all-in-wonder 9700 problem

matrixboy · 09-May-03, 02:50 PM

I tried to install my new AIW 9700 today but for some reason my computer wont boot when its installed. I have a 300W power supply but all that happens is the fans in my computer rotate a few times ( the heatsink fan and also the fan on the AIW 9700 itself ). I've tried to start it with all my fans and my CD-RW drive disconnected from the power supply but it still wont boot. I also attached the card to the floppy 4-pin connector coming directly from the power supply ( instead of using the included adapter ), but still no boot

all i get is just a few rotations of the fans

Whats wrong with the dang thing ?!!!

BigAkita · 09-May-03, 03:26 PM

Is your CPU fan connected to the CPU1 3-pin connector on the motherboard?

Im_gumby · 09-May-03, 03:52 PM

Do you get to a post error before it shuts down, or doesn't it get that far?

matrixboy · 09-May-03, 03:58 PM

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	Originally posted by BigAkita Is your CPU fan connected to the CPU1 3-pin connector on the motherboard?

...............yes

But what does that have to do with anything ?

Slider · 09-May-03, 04:00 PM

If it hadn't been, your system would do basically the same thing. Try putting in your old vid card and see if it does the same thing. You may have messed something up installing it, hopefully not.

matrixboy · 09-May-03, 04:01 PM

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	Originally posted by Im_gumby Do you get to a post error before it shuts down, or doesn't it get that far?

Ummmm..... shut down ????? No, I'm installing it for the first time.

matrixboy · 09-May-03, 04:03 PM

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	Originally posted by slider If it hadn't been, your system would do basically the same thing. Try putting in your old vid card and see if it does the same thing. You may have messed something up installing it, hopefully not.

I'm using my old video card right now, it works fine.

Slider · 09-May-03, 04:04 PM

What else do you have in your system? Cpu, fans, drives, etc.

matrixboy · 09-May-03, 04:07 PM

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	Originally posted by slider What else do you have in your system? Cpu, fans, drives, etc.

lots of stuff, but i've even disconnected all of my fans and drives ( escept my hard drive

)but it still wont work.

Slider · 09-May-03, 04:08 PM

Well, sounds like it could be a bad card.

Buzz_4_20 · 09-May-03, 05:46 PM

try the card in a diff machine, if it still doesn't work just send it my way.

BigAkita · 09-May-03, 05:59 PM

Hold on, what motherboard do you have?

matrixboy · 09-May-03, 06:37 PM

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	Originally posted by BigAkita Hold on, what motherboard do you have?

its a biostar m7vib-a

Peng Lord · 09-May-03, 06:59 PM

300W is borderline, my system was unstable with a 350W Antec PSU, also if it is an off-brand, it may not provide "Clean" or "True" power, if you can bum a 350+ from a bud, try it.

BigAkita · 09-May-03, 08:18 PM

I found several references like the following:

"The second note about power, is the requirement of good, clean, stable power. If you have a generic power supply in your computer, count on the card being glitchy and occasionally (read: often) restarting the computer whenever you're using the card's 3D features, or multimedia capture features. The solution to this problem, is making an Oath never to buy a cheap power supply again."

300W is the bare minimum that ATI states will run the card. As we all know, the bare minimum is rarely enough. Peng's advice on trying a different PSU is good advice.

Peng Lord · 09-May-03, 09:24 PM

Now perhaps someone has a solution to my cards minor issue...

When I first installed it, I would get grid lines every couple of boots (after upgrading my PSU to no avail.) I thought it might be a cooloing issue so I built a PVC cooling duct to bring outside air directly to the cards cooler, this seems to have solve part of the problem, now it only gives me grid-lines every other week or so. Any ideas?

Slider · 09-May-03, 09:46 PM

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	Originally posted by BigAkita I found several references like the following: 300W is the bare minimum that ATI states will run the card. As we all know, the bare minimum is rarely enough. Peng's advice on trying a different PSU is good advice.

True BA, but he stated that he had unplugged everything but the HDD. Seems like 300 should have at least powered the system up with all the fans and drives unpowered.

BigAkita · 09-May-03, 10:08 PM

The sites and forums I was hitting while about AIW's not booting constantly had references to clean power with high amperage. It might not be the fix, but it seems to be a possibility.

Slider · 09-May-03, 10:11 PM

No doubt. it's just as likely as a bad card.

09-May-03, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
matrixboy Apex Techie I Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 61	all-in-wonder 9700 problem I tried to install my new AIW 9700 today but for some reason my computer wont boot when its installed. I have a 300W power supply but all that happens is the fans in my computer rotate a few times ( the heatsink fan and also the fan on the AIW 9700 itself ). I've tried to start it with all my fans and my CD-RW drive disconnected from the power supply but it still wont boot. I also attached the card to the floppy 4-pin connector coming directly from the power supply ( instead of using the included adapter ), but still no boot all i get is just a few rotations of the fans Whats wrong with the dang thing ?!!!

09-May-03, 03:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,344	Is your CPU fan connected to the CPU1 3-pin connector on the motherboard? __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

09-May-03, 03:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Im_gumby Slightly Silly Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Latitude: 42 57 51 Longitude: 85 36 46 W Posts: 3,101	Do you get to a post error before it shuts down, or doesn't it get that far? __________________ C'mon... click me. You know you want to.

09-May-03, 04:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Slider Ghostrider Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,679	If it hadn't been, your system would do basically the same thing. Try putting in your old vid card and see if it does the same thing. You may have messed something up installing it, hopefully not. __________________ Always remember: No matter where you go, there you are.

09-May-03, 04:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Slider Ghostrider Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,679	What else do you have in your system? Cpu, fans, drives, etc. __________________ Always remember: No matter where you go, there you are.

09-May-03, 04:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Slider Ghostrider Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,679	Well, sounds like it could be a bad card. __________________ Always remember: No matter where you go, there you are.

09-May-03, 05:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
Buzz_4_20 Apex Elite Tech Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Presque Isle, ME - go ahead look it up... Posts: 1,209	try the card in a diff machine, if it still doesn't work just send it my way. __________________

09-May-03, 05:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,344	Hold on, what motherboard do you have? __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

09-May-03, 06:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
Peng Lord Apex Tech Maniac Supreme Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mich-HOE-gan Posts: 1,058	300W is borderline, my system was unstable with a 350W Antec PSU, also if it is an off-brand, it may not provide "Clean" or "True" power, if you can bum a 350+ from a bud, try it. __________________ -Thanks to maskedviperus for the cool sig-

09-May-03, 08:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,344	I found several references like the following: "The second note about power, is the requirement of good, clean, stable power. If you have a generic power supply in your computer, count on the card being glitchy and occasionally (read: often) restarting the computer whenever you're using the card's 3D features, or multimedia capture features. The solution to this problem, is making an Oath never to buy a cheap power supply again." 300W is the bare minimum that ATI states will run the card. As we all know, the bare minimum is rarely enough. Peng's advice on trying a different PSU is good advice. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

09-May-03, 09:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
Peng Lord Apex Tech Maniac Supreme Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mich-HOE-gan Posts: 1,058	Now perhaps someone has a solution to my cards minor issue... When I first installed it, I would get grid lines every couple of boots (after upgrading my PSU to no avail.) I thought it might be a cooloing issue so I built a PVC cooling duct to bring outside air directly to the cards cooler, this seems to have solve part of the problem, now it only gives me grid-lines every other week or so. Any ideas? __________________ -Thanks to maskedviperus for the cool sig-

09-May-03, 10:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,344	The sites and forums I was hitting while about AIW's not booting constantly had references to clean power with high amperage. It might not be the fix, but it seems to be a possibility. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

09-May-03, 10:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
Slider Ghostrider Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,679	No doubt. it's just as likely as a bad card. __________________ Always remember: No matter where you go, there you are.