z0mbi3

I'm running XP x64, the rest of my system details are in my sig.

Basicaly my problem is when playing video or doing any extensive net browsing on my geforce 2 mx (runs my third display) I can pretty much guarantee a system crash. It typicaly takes shape in the form of my 2 dispalys on my x800 pro blacking out and loosing signal.

Both cards have had new drivers on them at different stages and the problem is still present. I went through driver removal reinstallation in the tidiest way possible. But the problem really does reek of something driver related.

Now things have gotten to the point where I just want to reinstall windows and hope that solves my problems. Before I do that though I wanted to open the floor to some PR opinions ( if I can avoid a complete OS re-install I'd be happier).

Just to add I don't remember having this problem when I was running x32, but then I didn't actively use all three displays then either. Oh and the problems are all present with / without overclocking.

So any thoughts?

edit:

Just a bit more info. In this PC's first few weeks of xp x64 life I was actually getting system freezes during games.. this was rectified by uninstalling msn messenger.

z0mbi3

No one got anything on this?

thedemonxanth

What kind of power supply do you have and is it up to the task?

godfoot

I can almost guarantee you that it is conflicting vid card drivers. If you have an ATI card for your 3rd display (say an older Radeon or an old Rage Pro) you will most likely not have these issues.

z0mbi3

I don't think it's power supply related as I ran the same setup fine on x32.

Now strange thing is after I cleaned out both drivers (this afternoon) with driver cleaner in the propper way, I reinstalled the drivers for both cards and now I can browse and do all my usual malarky across the three screens just fine. However as soon as I came back into windows after the last restart of the driver reinstalation I opened an avi and bam blue screen complete with error code. Rebooted, opened a video and the problems gone with no return.

The only time I see this blue screen now is when I encode an xvid thru virtualdub mod. It's happening at the same point in encoding it did before, except it never showed the bluescreen, just restarts. Got another thread going on that but seems prudent to mention it with the blatant x-over.

I'll post up a pic of the error later. Any thoughts anyone?

edit:

In reply to what you were saying about conflicting drivers godfoot, I do agree it's something along those lines, but what was stoping me picking up a 7000 series radeon (for example) is how I would go about ensuring my vidcard oc doesn't try and apply itself to both cards.

godfoot

I would still try an ATI card as your second card if you have access to one. With the unified drivers they have nowadays there should be zero chance for driver issues.

z0mbi3

Just a little bump to try and catch you while your posting godfoot, I edited my post while you were making yours.

godfoot

You make a good point, and I am not sure what the result would be. My best suggestion is that if you have a friend with a spare ATI card to just try it and see. There may be another explanation but I wouldn't know what it may be.

z0mbi3

What annoys me is that I recently sold an old rig that was complete with a Radeon 7000 PCI. Would have been perferct for the job too .

I'm gonna get a grab of that bsod, post up then hit google. Then go from there.

Edit:

Pic complete with flash reflection

godfoot

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162363&sd=RMVP

musclecars&computers

Quote: Originally Posted by z0mbi3 What annoys me is that I recently sold an old rig that was complete with a Radeon 7000 PCI. Would have been perferct for the job too . I'm gonna get a grab of that bsod, post up then hit google. Then go from there. Edit: Pic complete with flash reflection

I've gotten that one. I get sometimes when i install, fix, replace, or mess w/ and hardware. Even if it is just drivers sometimes.

z0mbi3

I was googling last night and the most relevant thing that came up was that a handful of people from planetamd64 that are using ATI or NVIDIA cards on different mobo's and are having the same problems all with different solutions. I was going to try a few of these tonight, but I ended up thinking there was very little point as I know the majority of the things that were mentioned were things I know I haven't tampered with latley.

The one thing I will try is disabling avast tho, as this was one of the few things I had in common with alot of the peeps over there.

If this doesn't work... well..I'm at the stage where I just want to go back to x32. Does anyone think doing another set of driver cleaning will really help anything more?

Last thoughts I had would be to clean out, reinstall the ATI drivers try ripping a video to xvid then (if I don't get the error) reinstall the nvidias and see where I am.

Failing that I think just to go back to x32 and loose all my shiney x64ness.

z0mbi3

back to x32 and in all honesty feeling alot better for it. At least now I'm not waiting for x64 apps to come out.

Now my stability is 90% back. Problems I've had since the reinstall are still only when I'm using the geforce tho so I'm puting it completley down to the card, it's quite old after all and spent half its life in my loft.

Interesting thing , I can guarantee the crash will happen now when I run windows media player and use the alchemist (or w/e its called) visualisation. I select it when I've got wmp open on the geforce and straight away it crashes, the rest seem fine.

It looks like is a replacement card is gonna be the ultimate solution here. Can anyone recommend a PCI card that's not nvidia or ati related? Or can anyone commend on my previous post about concerns from not being able to tell my OC not to go on both ati cards?

eidt:

backed down my oc and ran autogk and its working fine now, although still the strange thing with that paticular visualisation.

z0mbi3

Things are more stable than they were but its still not 100%

My assumption is the geforce is just past its sell by date because I vaguely remember running this setup trouble free a few months back.

So a little bump on my previous vid card question, any tips on a non ati / nvidia card worth trying?

z0mbi3

bump...anyone?