Hey everyone, I was doing some wire management in my system recently, and when i finished and turned the computer back on, the monitor just went grey, with 4 lines dividing it the grey space into 4 sqaures. I thought it was my monitor, so i checked by using my mom's monitor, and it still didnt work. So, I thought it was my video card and i went and bought a fx5200 (my old one was a geforce4 mx 440). I also bought a new hard drive (the other one was too old, too slow, just felt like getting rid of it). lol I also decided to buy another Monitor, becuase iam sick of my bulky crt. Anyways, i installed everything tonight, the video card, the S-ATA hdd, and the new monitor. Guess what....IT STILL DOESNT WORK. Now, i hope to god it isnt my mobo, becuase i just installed Thermaltake's bigwater on it a week ago.

So, if anyone can tell me what is going on here, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.

I am not saying you did not check this, but you might want to double check all your wires and make sure something did not come lose while you where doing all your cable management. check your cables going to the hard drives your mobo connector and also double make sure that your video card did not move ether, not sure if you got a agp or pci slot video card but i have seen that happen before and cause the same issue you are having, what i would do is pull the video card out then put it back in make sure it is snug in the slot you put it in. I hope this kind of helps you out if not someone here might have some better ideas on what the problem you are having, But i would at least check on what i said first.

yea actually i re-wired everything again, and triple checked it was in, but ill check agian, thanks.

If anyone else has any ideas, please post

A few things you may want to try

1. If you have a PCI card, plug that in and see if it works
2. Only plug in vital components to make sure something didnt happen to your PSU and you are losing power.
3. Along the same lines of #1, if you have on board video try that out.
4. Reset your bios (should be a jumper you connect and then disconnect to do this)
5. When plugging in your power cables to the board (assuming you did this whilst it was screwed to the case) you may have pushed hard and touched hte metal to your case causing your board to short out. If this is the case you will need a new board
6. Along the same lines as #2, if you have another PSU, try that.

These may be duh suggestions or maybe one will help you. Could you post system specs and maybe it may help.

p.s. if this post contains spelling errors and horrible grammer, i keep getting up every 5 seconds to answer the door.

Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend KWR A few things you may want to try 1. If you have a PCI card, plug that in and see if it works 2. Only plug in vital components to make sure something didnt happen to your PSU and you are losing power. 3. Along the same lines of #1, if you have on board video try that out. 4. Reset your bios (should be a jumper you connect and then disconnect to do this) 5. When plugging in your power cables to the board (assuming you did this whilst it was screwed to the case) you may have pushed hard and touched hte metal to your case causing your board to short out. If this is the case you will need a new board 6. Along the same lines as #2, if you have another PSU, try that. These may be duh suggestions or maybe one will help you. Could you post system specs and maybe it may help. p.s. if this post contains spelling errors and horrible grammer, i keep getting up every 5 seconds to answer the door.

System Specs:

Asus P4P 800-E Deluxe
Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.6Ghz
*new* Maxtor 80GB S-ATA HDD
*new* FX5200 (AGP)
Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU
512MB DDR
Thermaltake BigWater SE Cooling System
Creative Audigy 2 Sound Card

if its the mobo that broke, iam going to be very, very, very pissed. I'll try plugging in the important components only, such as the mobo and drives.

Thanks Again. I'll post to let you know if there is any change.

Did you leak test the cooling setup before you installed it, for at least 24 hours?

I realized you've rewired it twice. But you could of still used the same power plug on the card. Try a new (or different) plug at your card. Say, switch your HD power with the video power and see if that works If it does then either the plug needs cleaning or your p/s is going out.

its not the power supply, i just tried using a different power supply, and i only plugged in the main components....

Also, there has been no leak, ive been running the cooling system for a week, everything is running smoothly with the cooling system.

I dont get it though, ive re-wired it so many times making sure everything is plugged in right. My sound card works, because I hear that short distorting noise after i turn off the computer, the waterblocks' blue led is working, which probably means its getting power from the motherboard. Ive taken out the agp video card several times and made sure i put it in where it fit just right. Still i get a "no signal" appearing on my monitor....

On top of this, i have to install windows on my new hdd...ugh...

I dont even have another motherboard to test the motherboard out, but i have a feeling its not the mobo's fault.

I did notice that you said you use a ultra x connect PSU , I have one myself and i have notice that those cables sometimes come lose very easy, so make sure they are very tight where you connect them i had one time hook to one of my drives and when i went to install something it said the drive was un accessable, so i said what is going on and i check all my cables again and notice the cable look like it was plug in but it was actually lose so check them out.
Ps i just thought of something else you could check if you are plugging any of the ultra x connect cables to a ordinary molex to extend any of your wires make sure when you plug them in together make sure the pins are making good contact and did not push out i have seen that happen to them before. Just trying to help you solve this problem.

Quote: Originally Posted by ranger1033 I did notice that you said you use a ultra x connect PSU , I have one myself and i have notice that those cables sometimes come lose very easy, so make sure they are very tight where you connect them i had one time hook to one of my drives and when i went to install something it said the drive was un accessable, so i said what is going on and i check all my cables again and notice the cable look like it was plug in but it was actually lose so check them out.

The cables are plugged in, ive tried it 4 times...making sure they are tight...if they weren tight, the cpu waterblock's led wouldnt have worked, the drives wouldnt have worked, nothing wuld have turned on really, but i will make sureof that once again....


lol off i go again....

Quote: Originally Posted by GodlyGreek The cables are plugged in, ive tried it 4 times...making sure they are tight...if they weren tight, the cpu waterblock's led wouldnt have worked, the drives wouldnt have worked, nothing wuld have turned on really, but i will make sureof that once again.... lol off i go again....

just trying to help you solve this hopefully we can get this sorted out for you.

Quote: Originally Posted by ranger1033 just trying to help you solve this hopefully we can get this sorted out for you.

i know, sorry, i didnt mean to sound like a prick or anything, iam just getting frustrated...Ive put so much time and money and bah...

Quote: Originally Posted by GodlyGreek i know, sorry, i didnt mean to sound like a prick or anything, iam just getting frustrated...Ive put so much time and money and bah...

Thats ok i know exactly where you are coming from there been there done that, i am starting to run out of ideas on what to tell you to check next, i have had the same issues that you are having but it was all do to a wiring promblem.

Well, you've eliminated pretty much every option, I recommend you find yourself another motherboard maybe use a friends or relatives and test each component individually until something doesnt work.

You may have just shorted something out whilst fiddling with wires and stuff. I dropped a screw on a motherboard once when it was running, never worked again.

Try reseating the CPU, RAM and CPU heatsink, see if that helps.

ok, so today i took everything apart, took everything out of my case, and laid it all on my desk. I only put the main components together (outside of my case) and plugged everything in...i powered it up, i got the no signal again...so i took off the waterblock as well, and cleaned off any of the thermal paste that was left...i ran it again without anything on the cpu, and it finally worked....which probably means the paste was just screwing it up. HOWEVER...now, without anything on it, the cpu gets immensely hot, and after 15-20 seconds of the computer booting up, the system shuts down on its own...


Whats going on now? is the system automatically shutting down becuase of the high cpu temp....or is there anything else?

keep in mind, i have tried with another PSU and it still does the same thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by GodlyGreek ok, so today i took everything apart, took everything out of my case, and laid it all on my desk. I only put the main components together (outside of my case) and plugged everything in...i powered it up, i got the no signal again...so i took off the waterblock as well, and cleaned off any of the thermal paste that was left...i ran it again without anything on the cpu, and it finally worked....which probably means the paste was just screwing it up. HOWEVER...now, without anything on it, the cpu gets immensely hot, and after 15-20 seconds of the computer booting up, the system shuts down on its own... Whats going on now? is the system automatically shutting down becuase of the high cpu temp....or is there anything else? keep in mind, i have tried with another PSU and it still does the same thing.

Running the cpu without ANY form of cooling is a big no-no! Yes that is why it shuts down. At least put some kind of standard air cooled heatsink on it. These new cpu's are amazing if they can withstand no cooling like that.

NEVER run the cpu without any heatsink. Your lucky it still runs! It sounds like you had thermal paste shorting out something.Clean everything with alcohol removing any excess paste, and reassemble with a tiny thin film of paste .

I agree with RBIEZE do not i mean do not run your computer with out thermal paste on your cpu , clean it with rubbing alcohol like RBIEZE said. i just hope you did not hurt it by doing what you did short out or burned something up by getting it hot. This is the paste i use you can get it from other places just showing you the proper paste to use.

http://www.xpcgear.com/arsil535.html

If you've been running your CPU without anything on it, no heatsink, nothing, then you have a high chance of buggering the thing.

If you say it now works, just try using a little more care when re-applying the thermal goo, then sitting your heatsink on very carefully, making sure not to mash the hell out of the smooth finish you just achieved on the thermal goo application. Nice and gently, plop it on top without too much movement.

If it then gives you no output after that, then id say you computer is having a severe claustrophobic reaction to having a heatsink on top of it. Get it a holiday, maybe some therapy if you can afford it with a decent therapist, see if that helps

You know forums are amazing in the sense of you being able to look back over the history of someones problem.

Although his symptoms were unusual the last lines of his first post is practicaly shouting at us

Quote: Now, i hope to god it isnt my mobo, becuase i just installed Thermaltake's bigwater on it a week ago.