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Old 07-January-05, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can I use my current Gainward "Ultra/2100 Golden Sample Geforce 6800 128MB" graphics card on a new system that has a PCI Express motherboard ?




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Old 07-January-05, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well if it is an agp card then the motherboard would have to have an agp slot. If it's a pci express card then there should not be a problem.
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Old 07-January-05, 03:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry, jaap, that's an AGP card (linky). As CJ said, no such luck using it with PCI-E.
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Old 07-January-05, 03:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yup... upgrades this round is gonna be big bucks!
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Old 07-January-05, 03:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I want to buy this system :

http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/elite_xa2.htm

but without the card that comes with it so I can save some cash.

Is the card in the sytem above, the 128MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 6600 GT PCI Express, better than the card I have already, my GT6800 ?

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Old 07-January-05, 03:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bummer

I want to buy this system :

http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/elite_xa2.htm

but without the card that comes with it so I can save some cash.

Is the card in the sytem above, the 128MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 6600 GT PCI Express, better than the card I have already, my GT6800 ?

Thanks

You could buy that same system, in parts and assemble it yourself ...probably still come out cheaper...
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Old 07-January-05, 04:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You could buy that same system, in parts and assemble it yourself ...probably still come out cheaper...

I'm getting the to give me a quote without the monitor, speakers, sound card, keyboard and mouse as i already have all those......

currently have a P4 2.66 ghz with the GT6800 graphics card. Will the MESH system be a large improvement on this ?
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Old 07-January-05, 04:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Is the card in the sytem above, the 128MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 6600 GT PCI Express, better than the card I have already, my GT6800 ?

Thanks

In a word, no.

Dude, the system you got sounds like it's pretty bangin' as it is...might just want to look into a CPU or memory upgrade instead...save you a helluvalotta cash...

What's the specs on your surrent system? (mobo, HD, RAM...)
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Old 07-January-05, 04:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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mobo : Gigabyte GA-8SIMLH
1GB ram
2 HDD, 80gb and 160gb Seagate barracuda

problem is the mobo has hit the wall processor upgrade wise, i can only go up to a P4-Northwood 3.06G (HT)

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...Rev%204.0).htm

any ideas ? new mobo, cpu and ram only necessary ? should i get a RAID setup for the HDD's ? how much of an advantage is RAID ?
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Old 07-January-05, 04:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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no offence, but considering you dont know one video card form another , I think it wise we just KISS (keep it simple, stupid!), and get with the easy stuff. A new motherboard should see you in good stead, Id recomend you go for a 800MHz HT chipset (theres a particularly good 8** chipset) and a northwood core. Asus seems to have the upper hand for Intel 478 boards.

Consider raid when your more assertive on you hardware. Welcome to PR by the way We all learn.
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Old 07-January-05, 04:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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any ideas ? new mobo, cpu and ram only necessary ? should i get a RAID setup for the HDD's ? how much of an advantage is RAID ?

Dude, I would totally keep your existing system, and just upgrade the motherboard for now...a nice IC7-G should do you well.

If you've got the ca$h flow, look into some new memory and a new processor...that board will be able to handle any processor out there, unless it's a socket-T.

If you want a board that's socket-T, but has AGP, then look into the DFI boards. They'll do you just fine.
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Old 07-January-05, 04:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i have cash but obviously don't wanna waste it..................

so all i need you think is a new mobo, memory and ram ? how much roughly for a P4 3.4ghz, mobo and 1MB ram ?
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Old 07-January-05, 05:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i have cash but obviously don't wanna waste it..................

so all i need you think is a new mobo, memory and ram ? how much roughly for a P4 3.4ghz, mobo and 1MB ram ?

I think you'd have a helluva time finding 1MB RAM...

Where are you from? US, UK or Canada?

I would do this:

Intel 550 Socket-T CPU (3.4GHz)

DFI Lanparty UT 865PE-T Motherboard

1GB of your favourite brand low latency OC RAM (Corsair, Ultra etc.)

By using the socket-T CPU you can use it in a future motherboard upgrade, yet still use your cirrent kick-ass video card. There is no real performance advantage moving to PCI-E and DDR2 right now...in fact, a highly overclocked DDR platform will outperform an overclocked DDR2 platform just because of the higher latencies of DDR2.
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Old 07-January-05, 05:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm from London

sorry, typo........ i meant 1GB Ram.......

so a new sytem is a waste of money then ?

ok looks like i shall upgrade myself.....

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Old 07-January-05, 05:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm from London

sorry, typo........ i meant 1GB Ram.......

so a new sytem is a waste of money then ?

ok looks like i shall upgrade myself.....

thanks

It's always cheaper to do it yourself...if you do go the socket-T route, make sure you read the instructions before installing the processor...motherboard warranties don't cover bent pins in the socket. (The pins are in the socket, not on the chip with the socket-T motherboards)
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Old 07-January-05, 05:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i'm no pc expert but i have moved my pc to a new Acousticase, http://www.quietpc.com/uk/cases.php#acc6607 , installed a decent heatsink, the Zalman Super Flower Cooler and a fan controller


it's not rocket science so i must be able to upgrade to a new mobo etc
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Old 12-January-05, 08:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
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You could get this mobo and have more upgrade options.
But from what I heer the apg slot is just a a weird pci slot
and runs slightly slower than agp 8x but there is almost no
real proformace differece in games and such.
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Old 13-January-05, 10:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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AGP Express...that's news to me...I think I'm gonna hafta read up on that...
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Old 13-January-05, 11:00 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, judging by logistics.. True AGP-E8X should be equivalent to PCI-E32X.
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