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Old 03-December-04, 01:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok my friend is looking to buy a new video card an he is looking at the BFG 6800oc. Now for me im not a really big Nvidia fan so i thought id get on here an ask the majority! How will out preform an is this 6800oc anything to think about?? thanks


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Old 03-December-04, 01:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i had the 6800oc it replaced my 9800 pro i i couldnt have been happier, untill i got my 6800gt But in all seriousness its a GREAT card and is the BEST card in its price range (300 dollars)
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Tell your friend to think about saving up an extra 100 bucks and go for the 6800gt by bfg. Come pre overclocked at 370/1000. I have that card and I love it.
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i have that card too, and its worth the extra 100. The 256mg really does wonders compared to the 128mg 6800
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I just got the PNY 6800 from CompUSA for $200(Black Friday sale). Best $200 I spent in a while. I scored 8800 on 3dmark out of the box. 8900 after a minor OC to 350 core 750 mem. There is also a hack through Rivatuner that makes it possible to open the extra 4 pipes and vertex. I did it and got nearly 11000 3dmark03. I had some artifacting though. It's not a guaranteed unlock.

6800 over the 9800 Pro all the way.
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Which 3d mark?
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3dmark03 build 3.50 Sorry about that. The scores are also approximations, I don't remeber exact scores. The one with the pipes and vertex unlocked was around 10870 I think.
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I am a little over 13000 with the 6800gt on 3dmark 03
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I know there's no way that a basic 6800 will get near a GT in benchies or probably in real world FPS. I was just offering info on the card I have for comparison. The only reason I didn't wait for the GT is I got the card for a great price and it trounces my previous card.

If you're asking between the vanilla 6800 or 9800 Pro, I say go 6800.

I would say unless you're getting an awesome deal on the vanilla 6800, wait and get the GT. You won't regret it.
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Hmm, is it worth it to spend the extra $100 over the GT and go for the BFG 6800 UltraOC?
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Hmm, is it worth it to spend the extra $100 over the GT and go for the BFG 6800 UltraOC?

wait for dell to put another 20% sale on it or some other large number. happens when a 20% off sale is on pc peripheraries (sp?). i post them when they come up so you'll probably see it in the deals and steals forum when i see it.
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Hmm, is it worth it to spend the extra $100 over the GT and go for the BFG 6800 UltraOC?

IMO, no. The BFG 6800 GT OC will generally OC to near or better than 6800 Ultra OC speeds. However, i have read that the ULTRA uses faster RAM (true? I dunno).
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my friend just got the hl2 and 6800oc deal at bestbuy ($250) and we sucessfully unlocked the other pipes and shaders, and it scores 10k in 3dmark03
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For the GT vs. Ultra thing;

GT's seem to be doing around 400mhz on the core avg with some hitting 420 (stock cooling), GT's also seem to have trouble getting above 1.12ghz on the RAM

my Ultra is 450 / 1.22; the others I've seen are doing around 440-450 core and around 1.2 on the VRAM. With voltage boosts and WC I'm hoping for 510 core, 1.3 mem
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For the GT vs. Ultra thing;

GT's seem to be doing around 400mhz on the core avg with some hitting 420 (stock cooling), GT's also seem to have trouble getting above 1.12ghz on the RAM

my Ultra is 450 / 1.22; the others I've seen are doing around 440-450 core and around 1.2 on the VRAM. With voltage boosts and WC I'm hoping for 510 core, 1.3 mem

Sweet oc's, man
check it: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=775634

My max oc so far is 425/1.13...not stable. I'm going to install a vga silencer and thermal probe and see how fast i can get (at this rate, it might be after the new year...work is whuppin me good....hopefully it'll slow down a bit after the holidays...um...work, that is, not the OC's )
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I just got the PNY 6800 from CompUSA for $200(Black Friday sale). Best $200 I spent in a while. I scored 8800 on 3dmark out of the box. 8900 after a minor OC to 350 core 750 mem. There is also a hack through Rivatuner that makes it possible to open the extra 4 pipes and vertex. I did it and got nearly 11000 3dmark03. I had some artifacting though. It's not a guaranteed unlock.

6800 over the 9800 Pro all the way.

Well, you think you could walk me through this method you used?? I'd sure appreciate it man...thanx...
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First, you need Rivatuner. Get it here.

Second, this may or may not kill your card. I will not be held responsible if it does damage your card. I doubt you will hurt it, but there is a chance. At your own risk.

Open Rivatuner. Click on the customize button on the target adapter and open Low level System settings. Click on the NVStrap driver tab. Check the checkbox that says "Allow enabling hardware masked units." Click customize button. You should see the table with the pixel pipes and vertexes listed. the ones without a check next to them are disabled. Click on them so a checkmark appears next to them to enable them. Click the OK button and the apply button next. restart when it asks you and run a 3d program and watch for artifacts. I looped 3dmark03 for 5 times to check for artifacts. If you have no artifacts, you are fine. If you have artifacts, try just one or the other or turn them back off altogether. Good luck.
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