overclock this?!?

xxpinoyxx · 21-July-04, 07:35 PM

can i overclock a integrated Intel Extreme Graphics chip??? and how? and please dont mention to buy a new system or graphics card.

Spc. Forces Bob · 21-July-04, 07:43 PM

no, and yes i will mention it get a new motherboard.

Spectrum · 21-July-04, 07:46 PM

If you have integrated video, you need a new motherboard and a new video card. I will tell you right now, if you have integrated video, you are just another BestBuy customer.

-=XPS=- · 21-July-04, 07:48 PM

or dell.... same ****....

i dont think you coudl oc anything on those mobos

gorked · 21-July-04, 07:49 PM

So you wanna get 3 FPS instead of 2?

aaronrkelly · 21-July-04, 08:04 PM

I will answer your question without bashing your purchase. No you cannot overclock your integrated video and if you could it would gain you much - there just not much power there to start with. Integrated video is great for its intended purpose - general use machines, not gaming. That being said I have a lappy with Intel Extreme Video and it runs NBA Live 03 just fine at 800 x 600 but thats where it ends, newer games choke hard.

You dont NEED a different motherboard, the on board video can be disabled and another graphics card installed without problems. Even the cheapest video card will get you far better performance. Spending $100 will get you decent game performance on most games as long as you dont want 1024 x 768 or better. For cheap the 9600 is probably the way to go - the FX5200 is a DOG.

Spectrum · 21-July-04, 08:07 PM

I just assumed his motherboard didn't have an AGP slot, because most motherboards in retail systems I have seen with integrated graphics don't have AGP slots.

-=XPS=- · 21-July-04, 08:29 PM

well lot of those mobos also dun have an editable bios. unless you wanna use sum lame ocing prog...

TekXoID · 21-July-04, 08:30 PM

Even if you overclocked that chip to hell and back it would still be slow as sh!t due to hardware limitations within the chip.

Gaming just isn't going to happen on integrated graphics, to your dismay
I also suggest you get a new motherboard and video card...

aaronrkelly · 21-July-04, 08:41 PM

You must have also assumed he had a retail system - as he didnt say that he did.......I build ALOT of systems with integrated graphics and Im sure Newegg sells ALOT of motherboards with integrated graphics. I didnt see any mention of it being retail.

xxpinoyxx · 21-July-04, 09:31 PM

yes it is retail. its a sony vaio pvc-rs410 desktop w/ a P4 2.68GHz @ 533BUS, 768 MB RAM, 120Gb 7200RPM hdd, cd-rom, dvd-rw, etc.

Arkangyl · 21-July-04, 10:32 PM

if it's got an AGP slot get a new vid card (AGP slots are bigger than the normal PCI slots and you should only have one).

TekXoID · 21-July-04, 10:50 PM

If your VGA port is here...

...then you have AGP video...if your VGA port is here...

...then you have integrated video...in which case you could buy an AGP video card.

xxpinoyxx · 21-July-04, 11:08 PM

ummmmm.......neither. it the original PCV-RS410, its not the other models like the studio or whatever. it only has PCI slots and no AGPs which means i cant upgrade for a good card like the radeon 9600XT Pro or the 9800

. that is why i want to overclock it to save money and time.

swanny321 · 21-July-04, 11:19 PM

overclockin it wont help, well it will help one thing... it will burn up quicker... :-P

TekXoID · 21-July-04, 11:21 PM

Those were shots taken from a PCV-RS410 review...
Oh well, you're just gonna have to deal with it, or replace the motherboard if possible
(never had first hand experience with VAIOs so I wouldn't know if they have proprietary components)

xxpinoyxx · 22-July-04, 01:01 AM

noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o well, guess ill juss have to trick out my laptop, buy some sorta external extreme cooling and overclock my laptop when needed.

TekXoID · 22-July-04, 01:10 AM

I don't think that's going to happen either. Laptops just aren't capable of overclocking much less the extra heat to dissipate.

M.D.K. · 22-July-04, 01:17 AM

Aren't there PCI 5600's around? It would be slow... but at least better than an intel extreme.

turbopsi · 22-July-04, 04:37 PM

You can get a decent PCI video card, I think Nvidia came out with something called PCX, its supposed to even be faster than AGP with bandwidth.....do some more research on it

21-July-04, 07:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
xxpinoyxx Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13	overclock this?!? can i overclock a integrated Intel Extreme Graphics chip??? and how? and please dont mention to buy a new system or graphics card.

21-July-04, 07:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spc. Forces Bob Apex Elite Expert Tech Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atsugi, Japan Posts: 1,297	no, and yes i will mention it get a new motherboard. __________________ It's Not That I'm All That Good, Everyone Else Just Sucks. "It looks like there will be no money for you, crazy round man." Samurai Jack

21-July-04, 07:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spectrum Former GameApex Editor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,669	If you have integrated video, you need a new motherboard and a new video card. I will tell you right now, if you have integrated video, you are just another BestBuy customer. __________________

21-July-04, 07:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
gorked Apex Tech Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 1,797	So you wanna get 3 FPS instead of 2? __________________ ______________________________ Counter-Strike Pimps Idle and Perform #SbK on IRC!

21-July-04, 08:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
aaronrkelly Apex Tech God Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arrgh!!! in a pirate ship watching me video CDs and listen to MP3s Posts: 2,720	I will answer your question without bashing your purchase. No you cannot overclock your integrated video and if you could it would gain you much - there just not much power there to start with. Integrated video is great for its intended purpose - general use machines, not gaming. That being said I have a lappy with Intel Extreme Video and it runs NBA Live 03 just fine at 800 x 600 but thats where it ends, newer games choke hard. You dont NEED a different motherboard, the on board video can be disabled and another graphics card installed without problems. Even the cheapest video card will get you far better performance. Spending $100 will get you decent game performance on most games as long as you dont want 1024 x 768 or better. For cheap the 9600 is probably the way to go - the FX5200 is a DOG. __________________

21-July-04, 07:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
-=XPS=- Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: a cold dark place... Posts: 601	or dell.... same ****.... i dont think you coudl oc anything on those mobos

21-July-04, 08:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spectrum Former GameApex Editor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,669	I just assumed his motherboard didn't have an AGP slot, because most motherboards in retail systems I have seen with integrated graphics don't have AGP slots. __________________

21-July-04, 08:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
-=XPS=- Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: a cold dark place... Posts: 601	well lot of those mobos also dun have an editable bios. unless you wanna use sum lame ocing prog...

21-July-04, 08:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: looking for love in the nearest gay bar Posts: 4,089	Even if you overclocked that chip to hell and back it would still be slow as sh!t due to hardware limitations within the chip. Gaming just isn't going to happen on integrated graphics, to your dismay I also suggest you get a new motherboard and video card...

21-July-04, 08:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
aaronrkelly Apex Tech God Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arrgh!!! in a pirate ship watching me video CDs and listen to MP3s Posts: 2,720	You must have also assumed he had a retail system - as he didnt say that he did.......I build ALOT of systems with integrated graphics and Im sure Newegg sells ALOT of motherboards with integrated graphics. I didnt see any mention of it being retail. __________________

21-July-04, 09:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
xxpinoyxx Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13	yes it is retail. its a sony vaio pvc-rs410 desktop w/ a P4 2.68GHz @ 533BUS, 768 MB RAM, 120Gb 7200RPM hdd, cd-rom, dvd-rw, etc.

21-July-04, 10:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Arkangyl Hoe-lier than Thou Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: far, far away Posts: 2,342	if it's got an AGP slot get a new vid card (AGP slots are bigger than the normal PCI slots and you should only have one).

21-July-04, 10:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: looking for love in the nearest gay bar Posts: 4,089	If your VGA port is here... ...then you have AGP video...if your VGA port is here... ...then you have integrated video...in which case you could buy an AGP video card.

21-July-04, 11:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
xxpinoyxx Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13	ummmmm.......neither. it the original PCV-RS410, its not the other models like the studio or whatever. it only has PCI slots and no AGPs which means i cant upgrade for a good card like the radeon 9600XT Pro or the 9800 . that is why i want to overclock it to save money and time.

21-July-04, 11:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
swanny321 Apex Tech Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 582	overclockin it wont help, well it will help one thing... it will burn up quicker... :-P __________________

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21-July-04, 11:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: looking for love in the nearest gay bar Posts: 4,089	Those were shots taken from a PCV-RS410 review... Oh well, you're just gonna have to deal with it, or replace the motherboard if possible (never had first hand experience with VAIOs so I wouldn't know if they have proprietary components)

22-July-04, 01:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
xxpinoyxx Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13	noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o well, guess ill juss have to trick out my laptop, buy some sorta external extreme cooling and overclock my laptop when needed.

22-July-04, 01:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: looking for love in the nearest gay bar Posts: 4,089	I don't think that's going to happen either. Laptops just aren't capable of overclocking much less the extra heat to dissipate.

22-July-04, 01:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
M.D.K. Apex Tech Maniac Supreme Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 953	Aren't there PCI 5600's around? It would be slow... but at least better than an intel extreme.

22-July-04, 04:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
turbopsi Supe-Hoe-Charged Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 1,737	You can get a decent PCI video card, I think Nvidia came out with something called PCX, its supposed to even be faster than AGP with bandwidth.....do some more research on it __________________

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