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Old 19-July-04, 07:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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My Radeon 9000 pro gets over 9000 3dmarks in 3dmark2k1. Its an older card too.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7385811
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Old 20-July-04, 12:32 AM   #22 (permalink)
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how about a 3d mark '03 score we like those better if your showing off the OC on you vid card. '01 has really turned into a processor benchmark

thats not really the truth. I just benchmarked a Compac that my friend owns and it got 6000+ with a 9200 PRO, so I gave him my 9800 Pro and then we hit 11000+, without changing anything but the GPU.
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Old 20-July-04, 01:52 AM   #23 (permalink)
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My Radeon 9000 pro gets over 9000 3dmarks in 3dmark2k1. Its an older card too.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7385811

That card is direct X 8.1 and does not support newer shaders and stuff like mine. Wont do good in 3dmark 03. You also use the omega drivers, which probably do better in benchmarking. I use the stock catalyst drivers, and softmod. I'm about to order ram sinks and get more out of this samsung memory also. What is your overclock on the 9000 pro?


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Good Srores! I have the same VC like yours(Sapphire Radeon 9550/128 MB RAM), but I didn't clock it at the max. Now its working perfectly on 400/520(Core/Memory) and I get 3087 points from 3DMark 2003. I don't know how much had you paid for it, but mine cost to me 55 dolars. And what I see is that mine is cheaper and better then yours(In Bulgaria everything is cheaper and better ).

Your memory is higher frequency, so you get a few more fps than I do, your Video card isn't better, and matter of fact im planning on better cooling for more overclock. But nice price you got that for, mine was 75 from newegg...now they are sold out..
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Old 20-July-04, 02:40 AM   #24 (permalink)
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300mhz core, 280mhz mem (560DDR). Stock is 275 core, 250 mem (500ddr).

So, doesnt that card struggle in DX9 tests??
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Old 21-July-04, 01:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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ahh your memory is a hell of a lot faster, mine is 200 stock, now its at 250, getting kind of hot, im getting ram sinks and getting it to 280 or higher .....and it plays direct x 9 games perfectly..so im happy nonetheless.....much better looking in games than 8.1...i wonder if i can get this ram up to 300mhz with more voltage and ramsinks would be awesome...i think its kind of bottlenecked..when the ram is 250..and the core is 450...with higher overclocked ram.....this card would benchmark a lot higher , my friend bought a radeon 9000 from walmart for 14bucks!...it was on sale...i bet he could get nice overclocks too
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Hey ppl i joined this forum for graphics card advise, basically i am running an ATI 9000 128mb card, and am sick of its crappines but cant afford much else, so ive gone and brought an ATI 9550 256mb DDR after being told it is a better update of the 9600, andnow im being told its a crap card???

but in ur forums theres a guy claiming its good agen, will i notice a difference on my 9550 256 compared to my 9000 128?
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What TurboPSI says does not represent the entire forum's opinion on the card. I think the it's a piece of shït.

Don't base purchase decisions purely on forum material.
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Old 28-August-04, 09:34 AM   #28 (permalink)
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i got my evga GF4MX 440 128MB card from 270/200 to 380/450 with a few chopped up P2 heat sinks attached. sure it took up 2.5 PCI slots, but it worked
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Old 28-August-04, 10:33 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I didnt base my purchase descision on forum users opinions, i had got the card before joining here, from hearing on a review that it was better than the 9600, and my friend who uses a 9600 256 can run DOOM3 on full graphics very nicely with some OCing.

As much as i would like to have an x800 or a Geforce 6800 256 or something, i cant really afford it...
so for only £50 odd, im happy with this card.... if it works as im hoping.

All that i would like to know from here, is wether or not im going to notice a big differents in performance with the 9550 256mb, as opposed to the 9000 128mb craplump?

and will i be able to run Doom 3 on full graphics? or on high at least, with shadows on etc etc without bad FPS?

my 9000 128mb runs doom3 on medium detail, with shadows off, and i get ok FPS with occasional lagginess in multiple enemy points in the game... im just really hoping it will improve with the 9550, as its a new card, and has double the ram... so can any1 here confirm any of this for me???

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I never said that the card, was a "high performance" card, and not everyone is able to go out and buy a 9800pro or whatever. I work damn hard, and go through hell, and just remember that not everyone is fortunate, as most of you people are. I bought this card for 75dollars, and it easily overclocks to 445mhz core, and 260mhz memory without ramsinks. I got the best I could get for 75dollars, and I seriously doubt anyone else could do better for the price. This is an ok performing card for the mainstream market, it is not better than a 9600, it is a 9600 underclocked. I don't appreciate your attitude tekxiod. If you want to flame someone then go ahead, just proves what kind of person you are.
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turbopsi - is ur 9550 a 128mb or 256mb? and in order to overclock mine as u have will i need an upgraded arctic fan thing or will it be ok with he one it comes with???

and as far as high end cards, **** em, theres no point in me spending loads on one yet as there not enuff games to warrant needing it yes IMO, and as long as my new card will run DOOM3 on high settings, and halo 1 without any ****ups, then im happy...

still tho, no1 has answered my question... will i notice a substantial differentce with the 9550 256 from my 9000 128???
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turbopsi - is ur 9550 a 128mb or 256mb? and in order to overclock mine as u have will i need an upgraded arctic fan thing or will it be ok with he one it comes with???

and as far as high end cards, **** em, theres no point in me spending loads on one yet as there not enuff games to warrant needing it yes IMO, and as long as my new card will run DOOM3 on high settings, and halo 1 without any ****ups, then im happy...

still tho, no1 has answered my question... will i notice a substantial differentce with the 9550 256 from my 9000 128???

Some what of a difference. Not one you'd be expecting. Only difference, is ok gaming in DX9 games.
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All i want is to be able to play DOOM3 on high, on 1024x768 at 30fps consistant with a little OCing perhaps...

on my 9000 128 i cant even play it on 800x600 low detail without ****ing up, and i only get about 16-21 fps lmfao... pethetic isnt it???

hopefully ill be able to at least enjoy the game on high with this, if only on 800 600...

and i wont get low FPS on halo 1 either.... which i get on halo on high settings
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Don't expect to play doom 3 with maxed out settings. It is possible to play it in 1024x768 resolution, with maybe some settings on low or medium. My Video card will play FarCry Pretty decently, on medium settings on a 1024x768 resolution. I have the 128mb version, since that's all I really need. With an aluminum Vantec iceberq fan, you can expect your card to overclock past 400mhz or more. Mine is currently at 445 (it locks up in UT2004 at 450mhz). You can't really beat the performance for $75dollars, which is what I paid for mine, it outperforms a 5700LE, even when it is overclocked. Don't expect this card to perform well stock, you need to overclock it, if you want to play doom 3 with medium settings.

With a little overclocking, and some tweaked settings, this card will play any game at 1024x768 resolution,
But don't expect maxed out settings, and high resolution.
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im able to play Doom3 on medium settings at 1280 x 1024 with no lag at all. its pretty decent too. runs nice and smooth.....but as soon as i got ultra, i start seeing things. like if i turn 180 real quick theres a lag or when i new monster appears i lag. small stuff, but stuff i dont like.
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well i got 512mb of ram, a pentium 2.8 and 120gig hard drive, which i keep real clean and in good condition, so i hope my system combined with a new card and new fan will be able to run doom on high setting on 800 600, and ill be happy...

i really just gotta get me a fan, can any1 link me to this iceberg aluminium thing ppl are talking about so i can buy one?
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I use the Aluminum, but for better performance, I would go with the copper, Since copper disippates heat better than aluminum.

I would reccomend this. It comes with a good southbridge heatsink for your motherboard too, if you don't already have one.

For ramsinks, I would reccomend these. They are aslo made by Vantec, and are copper. They will help you push your ram to the limit.

You might even have to use modded drivers to unlock your Video card, since most 9550's are locked, well I know mine was. Visit this site for the modded drivers, if your card is locked.

I would also use the RadClocker overclocking utility to overclock it with, just google it.




Hope that helps, peace.
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This be a decent cooler http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/chipset/a1919.htm

Download the Omega Drivers, and use the built in radlinker to overclock.
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That's a damn nice VGA cooler, it comes with ramsinks and everything, But like I said before, I had to file down this Iceberq, so the tabs fit around the capacitors. The capacitors on the Sapphire 9550 are very close to the core, hopefully that cooler will fit.

As for what program, and drivers to use for overclocking, it's all a matter of preference .


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