ATI Radeon 9800 Performance Issues - Page 2

Triiad · 23-June-04, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrome_Rust


	WHAT!!!! going to give up already? what do you have the AGP settings at in BIOS? i mean there is ALOT more to this than a simple format, what driver version for ATi are you using? did you do ALL of the windows updates? Keep messing with it, you'll get it soon....

Right now I am using the latest Omega drivers.

Have also tried to regular Catalysts from the ATI website.

I really don't know what else to do. I've posted this on all the sites that I visit that are somewhat tech saavy and people still don't know what the heck is up with it.

Is "Built by ATI" just a bad brand or something?

Could anything in my computer be bogging it down THAT much? Like I said above, I've read alot of people with rigs with less power scoring WAY better than I do in 3dmark01.

I ran it again a few minutes ago and BARELY reached 6k whereas people score anywhere from 15-20k.

Thanks again guys.

Triiad · 23-June-04, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TekXoID


	You're going to have to try harder than that. Computer's are like ho's, they need to be slapped back in line every now and then... as in you need to tweak with the settings, the BIOS would be a good place to start.

Maybe I am just used to NVidia, but I've never had to work this hard for a video card to put out bro! LOL

Chrome_Rust · 23-June-04, 11:44 PM

well try resetting BIOS.....then get back to me

TekXoID · 23-June-04, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Triiad


	Maybe I am just used to NVidia, but I've never had to work this hard for a video card to put out bro! LOL

Mine puts out and does so consistently, maybe because I have never had nVidia on this system.
The changeover from nVidia has always been a dirty process...

Reset your BIOS, load optimized defaults, tweak your settings, most of them are self-explanatory.

Although, I still think the PSU is at fault here.

corruptjoker · 23-June-04, 11:51 PM

check your device manager and make sure you have something in there under system devices and look for something that refers to agp to pci controller or something simular. On my board its called processor to agp controller. Also check for chipset updates. http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...9&DwnldID=7484

Triiad · 23-June-04, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkangyl


	Honestly Triiad, try RMA'ing (exchanging) the 9800 first; might just have a messy one Just a few more things; Make sure you're BIOS has your Primary Display Adapter set to AGP. Also whats you're cooling like? if your temps are gawd aweful I think your vid card might downclock. Also how bout the PSU? if its some cheapo 250-300w'er you might be overloading it and thus screwing with the graphics card again. BIOS updates may or may not help. The same with the newest drivesr for EVERYTHING

Cooling is stock. From what I've read these things can get really hot. I'm pretty new to this whole modding anything besides my case scene, so honestly I have no guess on how to check a video card temperature...

Really dinky fan, doesn't look like it can cool much. Here is a pic of it...

http://www.microcenter.com/image.pht...390&sku=459925

That is the 9800 128 meg page. But my card looks exactly like that.

Triiad · 24-June-04, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TekXoID


	Mine puts out and does so consistently, maybe because I have never had nVidia on this system. The changeover from nVidia has always been a dirty process... Reset your BIOS, load optimized defaults, tweak your settings, most of them are self-explanatory. Although, I still think the PSU is at fault here.

AFAIK my PSU isn't going out. Hasn't gave any adverse signals or anything of it. I believe it is a 450w PSU. Only have a CCL and a CD-RW hooked up along with a couple of fans.

TekXoID · 24-June-04, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Triiad


	Maybe I am just used to NVidia, but I've never had to work this hard for a video card to put out bro!

Wait a second, you did install the Intel INF drivers? RIGHT?

Chrome_Rust · 24-June-04, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TekXoID


	Wait a second, you did install the Intel INF drivers? RIGHT?

DOOOOHHHH!!!!!! the simplest answer is usually the hardest to come up with....

Triiad · 24-June-04, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TekXoID


	Wait a second, you did install the Intel INF drivers? RIGHT?

I installed the ones it listed as an update using MSI Live Update. Working on installing the one from intels site.

Triiad · 24-June-04, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Triiad


	I installed the ones it listed as an update using MSI Live Update. Working on installing the one from intels site.

Installed. Scored me 3k more on 3dmark2001 SE. Up to 9940. Here is my score info if anyone knows anything about it.

System Configuration

Operating System	Microsoft Windows XP

DirectX Version	9.0


Mobo Manufacturer	Micro-Star Inc.

Mobo Model	MS-6728

AGP Rates (Current/Available)	8x / 4x 8x


CPU	Intel Pentium 4 2646 MHz

FSB	110 MHz

Memory	768 MB


Graphics Chipset	ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Driver Name	RADEON 9800 PRO (Omega 2.5.51)

Driver Version	6.14.10.6451

Video Memory	256 MB


Program Version	3DMark2001 SE

Resolution	1024x768 32bit

Texture Format	Compressed

FSAA	Disabled

Z-Buffer Depth	24bit

Frame Buffer	Double

Rendering Pipeline	D3D Pure Hardware T&L

Detailed Test Results

3DMark Score	9940 3D marks


Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail	103.5 FPS

Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail	33.7 FPS

Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail	190.2 FPS

Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail	90.0 FPS

Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail	112.9 FPS

Game 3 Lobby - High Detail	49.8 FPS

Game 4 Nature	120.2 FPS


Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)	2025.1 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)	2989.7 MTexels/s


High Polygon Count (1 light)	83.3 MTriangels/s

High Polygon Count (8 lights)	19.1 MTriangels/s


Environment Bump Mapping	204.1 FPS

DOT3 Bump Mapping	208.0 FPS


Vertex Shader	123.6 FPS

Pixel Shader	160.9 FPS

Advanced Pixel Shader	217.7 FPS


Point Sprite	43.9 MSprites/s

Still not quite the 15000 people are somehow managing to get out of these.

Chrome_Rust · 24-June-04, 12:47 AM

um how may stick of ram do you have? if you have 3 oull a stick and run it in slots 1 & 3.....might have something to do with the dual channel....

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Chrome_Rust Apex Tech God Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus Grove, OH Posts: 2,590	well try resetting BIOS.....then get back to me __________________ 1997 Ford Taurus SHO 3.4L Yamaha V8 Flowmaster Exhaust K&N CAI Clear front corners 1999 Head/Tail Light conversion Full LED Conversion Lowered 1.5" 1996 Ford Crown Victoria P71 2000 4.6L V8 2004 P71 Ziptube Flowmaster Exhaust 1998 12.5" brake upgrade 2002 trans with J-Mod 2800 Stall Converter 3.73:1 gears w/ detriot true trac 90mm MAF 75mm TB 24lb injectors UDP's

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corruptjoker Decept-Hoe-Con Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,752	check your device manager and make sure you have something in there under system devices and look for something that refers to agp to pci controller or something simular. On my board its called processor to agp controller. Also check for chipset updates. http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...9&DwnldID=7484 __________________

24-June-04, 12:47 AM	#32 (permalink)
Chrome_Rust Apex Tech God Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus Grove, OH Posts: 2,590	um how may stick of ram do you have? if you have 3 oull a stick and run it in slots 1 & 3.....might have something to do with the dual channel....