$^*@$*& Soundblaster Live(swearing inside)

Snafu · 12-September-02, 11:35 PM

If you don't like swearing, don't read this post.

Well, I can't say I didn't see this coming, but I did. Creative makes a ****ty product, and I very nearly crushed my first computer component with my bare hands tonight. My system upgrade when smooth as silk, and I sucessfully hand assembled everything from the cpu up last night. Fired it up and everything ran smooth, except the one ****ing thing I knew wouldn't. The Creative Labs(we make ****) Soundblaster Live Value! This is the third one of these cards that I've installed in 4 different comps, 3 of which were running XP. And not a single god damn one of the ****ing things EVER worked the first 30 times I installed them. Every single time, I would keeps physically reinstalling the drivers and card, and eventually, it would for no apparent reason work. This usually comes after and hour or two spent double and triple checking every single connection, and setting even remotely related to sound on the whole computer. I've just wasted 3 HOURS trying to get this thing working, and right now I'm so angry that if I saw a creative employee, I'd break his goddamn nose. For the first time in 5 years, I'm using analog sound(onboard no less) because this ****ing card refuses to work. This is mostly a venting session, because I am VERY angry right now. But if anyone knows a fix, I'd love to hear it. I've checked every thing imaginable, and every troubleshooting program says the card is working fine and playing sound. Bull****. I guess I'll go listed to some midi files now or something.

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BigAkita · 12-September-02, 11:43 PM

Have you tried using the Creative Labs drivers from Microsoft that are certified for XP?

Snafu · 12-September-02, 11:48 PM

The drivers I used were from creative's website for XP, are there others I can try?

Snafu

putwig · 12-September-02, 11:49 PM

you made a "hand assembled cpu" with your "bare hands"?

Wow, that is some skill with the soldering iron!

:p

Just trying to lighten the mood!

Snafu · 12-September-02, 11:54 PM

I'm L33T!

BigAkita · 12-September-02, 11:54 PM

I just tried to find the drivers but couldn't. I also had a small problem before I switched to Audigy, but I used the Windowsupdate feature and under device drivers they listed Soundblaster Live drivers. Don't see them now.

tdigweed · 13-September-02, 08:48 AM

Have you tried the card in different pci slots? For some reason creative cards dont like sharing Irqs. Mine cracks and pops if it is in certain slots on my board.
I have fought every creative card since I have got XP. I wish someone else made a desent card so I would have to deal with creative's pieces of SH*T

abyssling · 13-September-02, 10:56 AM

I use turtle beach santa cruz cards in my rigs, these are some 5.1 cards that are SWEET. lots of features and bundled with great software (if you buy the retail version) oem version is on sale at newegg for about 62.00 if i remember correctly

sorry that doesnt help you with your soundblaster, but i hate those pos's. i will NEVER use one

abyssling · 13-September-02, 11:02 AM

oh..and best of all...TBSC is SMP enabled!! woot! no more IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSODs!! (most commonly an error generated from using non smp enabled drivers in a smp rig)

Coelacanth · 13-September-02, 02:59 PM

Dang, I'm sorry to hear of all your past experiences and troubles with Creative cards. I had a lot of problems with a VIA chipset and the SB Live, but I put most of the blame on VIA's KT133A ****set.

At work, I install SB Lives so many times, it would boggle your mind. We have 3 different flavors of the Live (including the Value) and we keep testing and retesting with any motherboard we have in-house. The failure rate is usually VERY low. Ironically, one of the cards we had the MOST problems with was the Santa Cruz. The engineers had to work a lot of extra time to fix our issues with the S.C. The other one we've had tons of problems with was the Hercules MuseXP (C-Media CMI8738 chip, which is often found on 5.1 onboard audio, and has caused us problems there, too).

I've always used the latest drivers from Creative (www.soundblaster.com/drivers), and I even have a clean-sweep procedure to allow you to manually remove/delete anything having to do with the SB Live. Could be your installation corrupted, and all subsequent attempts only made things worse.

Also note that Creative recently (early last week) updated their driver sets, and these updates solved a lot of our problems with Creative products.

You know, the one thing that you DIDN'T mention is what mobo you have!

Darksamurai · 13-September-02, 03:05 PM

Ahh man... I just bought a Live 5.1... Oh well, I'm usin' winblows 2000 Pro. maybe I'll have less trouble. Man, I still miss XP though.

The audigy card kicks ass... none of my DOS games wanna play nice with it, even with Vortex drives, but hey... It sound good and configures easily!

abyssling · 13-September-02, 03:08 PM

you....umm...didnt have onboard sound enabled when you tried to install your SB did you? and you checked for irq conflicts?

HarshReality · 13-September-02, 03:39 PM

Might sound stupid since the board (K7T Turbo2) has onboard audio, but I use a soundblaster live with XP I just plugged it in and powered up.

You have to love the so called 5.1 surround sound! Now all I need is the LiveWire IR addition for the front and I can jam my Mp3s with the remote, LOL

12-September-02, 11:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Snafu Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 185	*$^@$& Soundblaster Live(swearing inside)* If you don't like swearing, don't read this post. Well, I can't say I didn't see this coming, but I did. Creative makes a **ty product, and I very nearly crushed my first computer component with my bare hands tonight. My system upgrade when smooth as silk, and I sucessfully hand assembled everything from the cpu up last night. Fired it up and everything ran smooth, except the one ing thing I knew wouldn't. The Creative Labs(we make ) Soundblaster Live Value! This is the third one of these cards that I've installed in 4 different comps, 3 of which were running XP. And not a single god damn one of the ing things EVER worked the first 30 times I installed them. Every single time, I would keeps physically reinstalling the drivers and card, and eventually, it would for no apparent reason work. This usually comes after and hour or two spent double and triple checking every single connection, and setting even remotely related to sound on the whole computer. I've just wasted 3 HOURS trying to get this thing working, and right now I'm so angry that if I saw a creative employee, I'd break his goddamn nose. For the first time in 5 years, I'm using analog sound(onboard no less) because this ing card refuses to work. This is mostly a venting session, because I am VERY angry right now. But if anyone knows a fix, I'd love to hear it. I've checked every thing imaginable, and every troubleshooting program says the card is working fine and playing sound. Bull**. I guess I'll go listed to some midi files now or something. S __________________ Careful. We don't want to learn anything from this.

12-September-02, 11:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,344	Have you tried using the Creative Labs drivers from Microsoft that are certified for XP? __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

12-September-02, 11:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Snafu Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 185	The drivers I used were from creative's website for XP, are there others I can try? Snafu __________________ Careful. We don't want to learn anything from this.

12-September-02, 11:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	you made a "hand assembled cpu" with your "bare hands"? Wow, that is some skill with the soldering iron! :p Just trying to lighten the mood! __________________

12-September-02, 11:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Snafu Apex Advanced Techie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 185	I'm L33T! __________________ Careful. We don't want to learn anything from this.

12-September-02, 11:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,344	I just tried to find the drivers but couldn't. I also had a small problem before I switched to Audigy, but I used the Windowsupdate feature and under device drivers they listed Soundblaster Live drivers. Don't see them now. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

13-September-02, 08:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
tdigweed Apex Master Tech Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St Louis MO, USA Posts: 227	Have you tried the card in different pci slots? For some reason creative cards dont like sharing Irqs. Mine cracks and pops if it is in certain slots on my board. I have fought every creative card since I have got XP. I wish someone else made a desent card so I would have to deal with creative's pieces of SH*T __________________

13-September-02, 10:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
abyssling Apex Tech Maniac Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 947	I use turtle beach santa cruz cards in my rigs, these are some 5.1 cards that are SWEET. lots of features and bundled with great software (if you buy the retail version) oem version is on sale at newegg for about 62.00 if i remember correctly sorry that doesnt help you with your soundblaster, but i hate those pos's. i will NEVER use one __________________

13-September-02, 11:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
abyssling Apex Tech Maniac Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 947	oh..and best of all...TBSC is SMP enabled!! woot! no more IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSODs!! (most commonly an error generated from using non smp enabled drivers in a smp rig) __________________

13-September-02, 02:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Coelacanth Apex Tech God Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,993	Dang, I'm sorry to hear of all your past experiences and troubles with Creative cards. I had a lot of problems with a VIA chipset and the SB Live, but I put most of the blame on VIA's KT133A **set. At work, I install SB Lives so many times, it would boggle your mind. We have 3 different flavors of the Live (including the Value) and we keep testing and retesting with any motherboard we have in-house. The failure rate is usually VERY low. Ironically, one of the cards we had the MOST problems with was the Santa Cruz. The engineers had to work a lot of extra time to fix our issues with the S.C. The other one we've had tons of problems with was the Hercules MuseXP (C-Media CMI8738 chip, which is often found on 5.1 onboard audio, and has caused us problems there, too). I've always used the latest drivers from Creative (www.soundblaster.com/drivers), and I even have a clean-sweep procedure to allow you to manually remove/delete anything having to do with the SB Live. Could be your installation corrupted, and all subsequent attempts only made things worse. Also note that Creative recently (early last week) updated their driver sets, and these updates solved a lot of our problems with Creative products. You know, the one thing that you DIDN'T mention is what mobo you have! __________________ Flipping the bird at 400 million years of evolution "If assholes could fly, the skies would be black!" "The human brain can be amazingly resistant to accepting an inconvenient truth" ~Moi Completed Projects & Worklogs: Charger Gothic Gargoyle Pisces Micro-Blaze Modding On The Cheap View My Gallery **

13-September-02, 03:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
Darksamurai Sam-Hoe-rai N-Hoe-mad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Helena, MT Posts: 5,981	Ahh man... I just bought a Live 5.1... Oh well, I'm usin' winblows 2000 Pro. maybe I'll have less trouble. Man, I still miss XP though. The audigy card kicks ass... none of my DOS games wanna play nice with it, even with Vortex drives, but hey... It sound good and configures easily! __________________ “A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving.” - Lao Tzu

13-September-02, 03:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
abyssling Apex Tech Maniac Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 947	you....umm...didnt have onboard sound enabled when you tried to install your SB did you? and you checked for irq conflicts? __________________

13-September-02, 03:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
HarshReality Apex Techie II Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 117	Might sound stupid since the board (K7T Turbo2) has onboard audio, but I use a soundblaster live with XP I just plugged it in and powered up. You have to love the so called 5.1 surround sound! Now all I need is the LiveWire IR addition for the front and I can jam my Mp3s with the remote, LOL

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