my benchmark sucks

Orion · 24-September-02, 06:36 AM

i get a 3d mark 2001 score of 2700, im only runnin an old duron 850 with a geforce 2 gts. I got plenty of ram(294 mb) buts its only runnin at pc 100, does anyone know roughly what i could expect from upgradin to a 1.2 or 1.4 athlon

vladimir · 24-September-02, 07:18 AM

ur score is fine...i had a gf2 mx 400, xp 1600+, 512mb ddr pc2100 and mi score was 287x .

gf2 are sucky cards and you wont get a hight score with em so get a new video card or somehting if you want a higher score

Potato Joe · 24-September-02, 07:55 AM

Orion, I have a comp that has 1.2Ghz Duron, 512mb PC133, Visiontek Geforce3 and onboard sound. In 3DMark2001se it gets right around 6000. ClowN's right, you need a new vid card my friend. I would suggest the Geforce TI4200, there are good deals out there on them and you can carry one thru to your next system.

putwig · 24-September-02, 08:12 AM

My score with everything at stock speeds is about 3300.

I have an Athlon 1.2 , with 512 MB Mushkin Rev 2, and a Geforce 2 TI.

With system oc to 1.44 (fsb 137) and the video card oc'd I have achieved scores around 4500. The very best score being 4622.

The Geforce 2 TI is better than your gts, but not as good as the ultra.

As I recall: gts < pro < TI < ultra.

So, you would see some increases with a faster proc. But as Clown said (I can't believe I am agreeing with Clown) your real money shot is going to be a new video card.

The next question is, do you really want to put a new video card into a Duron 850 on (I pressume) a Via KT-133a mobo....I would say no.

If your comp is still keeping up, and allowing you to play the games you want etc. I would leave it alone. Upgrade en masse when you can no longer play the free cd's that come with captain crunch.

You and I are both in the awkward position of needing CPU, Mobo, ram, and vid card for our next big upgrade path.

Orion · 24-September-02, 09:50 AM

you are right, i am in the difficult position that too make a significant upgrade, i need a new mobo, faster ram, processor the lot. I think then Ill leave my processor, and maybe invest in a nice new GF4200, or a rad9700 or summin til i can afford the rest, nice one guys :-) (oh by da way, anyone sellin a GF4200 or a rad???)!!

putwig · 24-September-02, 11:12 AM

The problem I see with that strategy, and I have thought about this alot, is that you then have a kick ass videocard in a system unequipped to fully utilize its potential.

Then you fianally get around to buying the 10 GHz AMD Sapphire XXX Gold Proc on a VIA KT 1066 mobo in one years time and your kick ass TI 4200 is the equivalent of a RIVA TNT2, and you will need to replace it to reap the benefits of your other new hardware.

It just seems like you end up buying to vid cards instead of one!

I know there is no right answer. I decided to spend my cash on something that will definately make the transition to my next rig...new 5.1 speakers.

Anyone running a Geforce 4 Ti or 9700 pro on mobo that uses pc-133 and has a Duron or T-Bird?

BigAkita · 24-September-02, 11:43 AM

Yes, I have a 4200 on my KT133 mobo. If I unload everything out of memory and do some extreme vid card overclocking, I can almost hit 12,000 in 3DMark. My setup will soon change though. Eyeing a new Abit KT400, 2600+, and XMS PC3200.

Chaszmyr · 24-September-02, 11:49 AM

The Ti4200 is a really good deal as far as nice video cards go... but I just dont know worth it a new vid card would be unless you get a somewhat up-to-date processor. an 800mhz duron is pretty archaic.

putwig · 25-September-02, 12:00 AM

Hey BA - hypothetical question for you.

if you had known that you would not be imminently buying a new rig.......would you have bought the Gainward for your existing kt133 setup?

I am still undecided. I know you can understand my reservations.

What are your thoughts?

I will absolutely not be replacing the remainder of my system for at least 12-18 months.

I know that kind of restriction is unthinkable to many of you...but for me at this time...it is just not in the cards.

BigAkita · 25-September-02, 07:19 AM

Yes, I'd have gotten it anyway. I'm real pleased with the performance increase over my Ti-200. My main system here is also the main gaming rig and I wasn't about to hear the kids talk about low frame rates on the games we play. Yeah, that was the reason for the upgrade, the kids.

I always do incremental upgrades to my computer. When something is starting to get dated, it gets swapped out. I end up with a whole new system about every 18 months that way. Honestly though, I did the vid card upgrade sooner that I needed to. I should have waited until games utilizing DX8 and pixel shadeing were more prevalant.

But, the cards are pretty inexpensive right now and you can recoup a portion of your money back by getting rid of the old one on ebay. Amazing what some idiots will pay for old crap you may have lying around. That's what is paying for my new rig.

biohazardpc · 25-September-02, 09:11 AM

With my ti 4200 I get 10,585 on 2001. I reallly like the 4200.I thonk you would be really happy with it, but I also would sugggest upgrading your proc and maybe the mobo.

biohazardpc · 25-September-02, 09:15 AM

sorry about the big picture will use something smaller next time

Devlyn81 · 25-September-02, 10:48 AM

Sadly enough im Jealous of your 850.
dual P2@450
matrox g400 16 bit.
Very jealous.

TYCOON · 28-September-02, 10:00 PM

My p3 1ghz with mx400 geforce 2 gets "6700" score !!! owns jooz!!! No Tweakege

TYCOON · 28-September-02, 10:01 PM

Oh ya my geforce is 1\6 the money of a ti 4200

BigAkita · 28-September-02, 10:18 PM

Quote:


	my geforce is 1\6 the money of a ti 4200

Only 1/6th the price and 1/10th of the performance. Hell of a bargain. Soooo, Tycoon. How do you like playing the UT3 Demo?

putwig · 28-September-02, 11:17 PM

There is absolutely no freakin way you are getting a score of 6700 with a Geforce 2 MX card and a 1 GHz processor!

Maybe in 3D Mark 2000, but not 3D Mark 2001!

Sorry dude, not possible.

BigAkita · 28-September-02, 11:26 PM

I caught that also. Wanted to see if he would give me his opinion of UT3. I caught a fish thiiiiiiisss big, but it got away.

TYCOON · 30-September-02, 06:47 PM

LOL if u use THE BEST parts u can acheive awsome performance u monkey i got a limeted edition ASUS mother baord THERMAL TAKE everything it all helps im looking to get a gerforce ti4000

TYCOON · 30-September-02, 06:49 PM

UT# demo rocks and yes i can play it 1200x1600 high detail , with awsome performance and no lag lol my geforce is broken i get a straight 100 fps in counterstrike at 1200x1600 heheh truth is i was cleaning it and a little chip fell off

24-September-02, 06:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Orion Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: poole, dorset, england Posts: 5	my benchmark sucks i get a 3d mark 2001 score of 2700, im only runnin an old duron 850 with a geforce 2 gts. I got plenty of ram(294 mb) buts its only runnin at pc 100, does anyone know roughly what i could expect from upgradin to a 1.2 or 1.4 athlon

24-September-02, 07:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Potato Joe Potat-Hoe Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 552	Orion, I have a comp that has 1.2Ghz Duron, 512mb PC133, Visiontek Geforce3 and onboard sound. In 3DMark2001se it gets right around 6000. ClowN's right, you need a new vid card my friend. I would suggest the Geforce TI4200, there are good deals out there on them and you can carry one thru to your next system. __________________ NEW LIVE WEBCAMS

24-September-02, 08:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	My score with everything at stock speeds is about 3300. I have an Athlon 1.2 , with 512 MB Mushkin Rev 2, and a Geforce 2 TI. With system oc to 1.44 (fsb 137) and the video card oc'd I have achieved scores around 4500. The very best score being 4622. The Geforce 2 TI is better than your gts, but not as good as the ultra. As I recall: gts < pro < TI < ultra. So, you would see some increases with a faster proc. But as Clown said (I can't believe I am agreeing with Clown) your real money shot is going to be a new video card. The next question is, do you really want to put a new video card into a Duron 850 on (I pressume) a Via KT-133a mobo....I would say no. If your comp is still keeping up, and allowing you to play the games you want etc. I would leave it alone. Upgrade en masse when you can no longer play the free cd's that come with captain crunch. You and I are both in the awkward position of needing CPU, Mobo, ram, and vid card for our next big upgrade path. __________________

24-September-02, 09:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Orion Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: poole, dorset, england Posts: 5	reply you are right, i am in the difficult position that too make a significant upgrade, i need a new mobo, faster ram, processor the lot. I think then Ill leave my processor, and maybe invest in a nice new GF4200, or a rad9700 or summin til i can afford the rest, nice one guys :-) (oh by da way, anyone sellin a GF4200 or a rad???)!!

24-September-02, 11:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	The problem I see with that strategy, and I have thought about this alot, is that you then have a kick ass videocard in a system unequipped to fully utilize its potential. Then you fianally get around to buying the 10 GHz AMD Sapphire XXX Gold Proc on a VIA KT 1066 mobo in one years time and your kick ass TI 4200 is the equivalent of a RIVA TNT2, and you will need to replace it to reap the benefits of your other new hardware. It just seems like you end up buying to vid cards instead of one! I know there is no right answer. I decided to spend my cash on something that will definately make the transition to my next rig...new 5.1 speakers. Anyone running a Geforce 4 Ti or 9700 pro on mobo that uses pc-133 and has a Duron or T-Bird? __________________

24-September-02, 07:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
vladimir Pimp PHP Pro Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,329	ur score is fine...i had a gf2 mx 400, xp 1600+, 512mb ddr pc2100 and mi score was 287x . gf2 are sucky cards and you wont get a hight score with em so get a new video card or somehting if you want a higher score

24-September-02, 11:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,315	Yes, I have a 4200 on my KT133 mobo. If I unload everything out of memory and do some extreme vid card overclocking, I can almost hit 12,000 in 3DMark. My setup will soon change though. Eyeing a new Abit KT400, 2600+, and XMS PC3200. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

24-September-02, 11:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Chaszmyr Apex Tech Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 594	The Ti4200 is a really good deal as far as nice video cards go... but I just dont know worth it a new vid card would be unless you get a somewhat up-to-date processor. an 800mhz duron is pretty archaic. __________________ Feel free to mod everything in your computer and void every warranty.. Just don't remove your mattress tag!

25-September-02, 12:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	Hey BA - hypothetical question for you. if you had known that you would not be imminently buying a new rig.......would you have bought the Gainward for your existing kt133 setup? I am still undecided. I know you can understand my reservations. What are your thoughts? I will absolutely not be replacing the remainder of my system for at least 12-18 months. I know that kind of restriction is unthinkable to many of you...but for me at this time...it is just not in the cards. __________________

25-September-02, 07:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,315	Yes, I'd have gotten it anyway. I'm real pleased with the performance increase over my Ti-200. My main system here is also the main gaming rig and I wasn't about to hear the kids talk about low frame rates on the games we play. Yeah, that was the reason for the upgrade, the kids. I always do incremental upgrades to my computer. When something is starting to get dated, it gets swapped out. I end up with a whole new system about every 18 months that way. Honestly though, I did the vid card upgrade sooner that I needed to. I should have waited until games utilizing DX8 and pixel shadeing were more prevalant. But, the cards are pretty inexpensive right now and you can recoup a portion of your money back by getting rid of the old one on ebay. Amazing what some idiots will pay for old crap you may have lying around. That's what is paying for my new rig. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

25-September-02, 09:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
biohazardpc H.A.L.O.-Hoe Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,617	With my ti 4200 I get 10,585 on 2001. I reallly like the 4200.I thonk you would be really happy with it, but I also would sugggest upgrading your proc and maybe the mobo. __________________ When all else fails beat it with a hammer. One shot One kill, why waste ammo.

25-September-02, 10:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
Devlyn81 Apex Master Tech Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 215	Sadly enough im Jealous of your 850. dual P2@450 matrox g400 16 bit. Very jealous.

28-September-02, 10:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	HA! My p3 1ghz with mx400 geforce 2 gets "6700" score !!! owns jooz!!! No Tweakege __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

28-September-02, 10:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	Oh ya Oh ya my geforce is 1\6 the money of a ti 4200 __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

28-September-02, 11:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,198	There is absolutely no freakin way you are getting a score of 6700 with a Geforce 2 MX card and a 1 GHz processor! Maybe in 3D Mark 2000, but not 3D Mark 2001! Sorry dude, not possible. __________________

28-September-02, 11:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 14,315	I caught that also. Wanted to see if he would give me his opinion of UT3. I caught a fish thiiiiiiisss big, but it got away. __________________ "I'll stop being an A-Hole if you will stop being an Idiot."

30-September-02, 06:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	LOL if u use THE BEST parts u can acheive awsome performance u monkey i got a limeted edition ASUS mother baord THERMAL TAKE everything it all helps im looking to get a gerforce ti4000 __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

30-September-02, 06:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	UT# demo rocks and yes i can play it 1200x1600 high detail , with awsome performance and no lag lol my geforce is broken i get a straight 100 fps in counterstrike at 1200x1600 heheh truth is i was cleaning it and a little chip fell off __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

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