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Old 18-February-06, 01:41 PM   #41 (permalink)
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You do realize thoes cards will only be running at half their power. Does the mobo have dual 16x pci-e slots or 2 8x pci-e slots in crossfire mode?

All 975X motherboards switch to 8x when using crossfire...It's a limitation of the Northbridge controller...
The speed difference of the 8x to 16x is hardly noticeable...
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Old 18-February-06, 01:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Well newer motherboards are having "true dual x16 slots". The AsusA8N32-Deluxe has true dual x16 slots running, and the total bandwith is x32 in SLI.

I have read that the difference isn't great now, but in the future as games will take advantage of "true dual x16 slots" as they get more complexed.
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Old 18-February-06, 02:39 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Well newer motherboards are having "true dual x16 slots". The AsusA8N32-Deluxe has true dual x16 slots running, and the total bandwith is x32 in SLI.

I have read that the difference isn't great now, but in the future as games will take advantage of "true dual x16 slots" as they get more complexed.

Yes but thats an AMD solution...LOL

ATI has a new chipset coming out that is supposed to allow for dual 16x slots...By the time they get th bugs out of that....Then maybe we may need the extra 2000 in bandwidth....

By then It will be conroe time and I am sure the Intel solution will have accomplished the same....
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Old 18-February-06, 02:42 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Yea I know that it is an AMD solution, but in time other motherboard makers such as DFi will start to make true dual x16 cards in SLI. Just a matter of time....
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Old 18-February-06, 02:57 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I think I might be trading my current Crossfire board for this Crossfire............The A8R32-MVP Deluxe, Dual PCIe x 16 Graphics..............

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.asp...42&modelmenu=1
http://www.vrforums.com/showthread.php?p=1513400
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Old 18-February-06, 06:43 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I think I might be trading my current Crossfire board for this Crossfire............The A8R32-MVP Deluxe, Dual PCIe x 16 Graphics..............

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.asp...42&modelmenu=1
http://www.vrforums.com/showthread.php?p=1513400

I didn't know that Asus had released the Crossfire version of the Asus A8N32-Deluxe. News to me.
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Old 18-February-06, 07:06 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I didn't know that Asus had released the Crossfire version of the Asus A8N32-Deluxe. News to me.

It's due to be released in early March.
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Old 18-February-06, 07:14 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Looks like Asus has one for the 975x chipset and Crossfire ready.

http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx...81&modelmenu=1
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2671
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Old 18-February-06, 07:29 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I think I might be trading my current Crossfire board for this Crossfire............The A8R32-MVP Deluxe, Dual PCIe x 16 Graphics..............

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.asp...42&modelmenu=1
http://www.vrforums.com/showthread.php?p=1513400

Thats a great option for an AMD setup....LOL
However I am not sure I can stick my 930D in that board...lol


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Looks like Asus has one for the 975x chipset and Crossfire ready.

http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx...81&modelmenu=1
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2671


The P5WD2-E you linked too is a 975X board which is like all 975X boards...Limited to shared PCIX that cuts down to 8x when running dual cards.... cost is $269
Also that premium board only uses 4 phase power....Versus the 8 phase found on the workstation model that costs an extra 40 bucks...P5WDG2-WS @ $319

Now you are probably starting to see why I went with the Gigabyte GA-G1975X model.....8 phase power and 90 dollars less @ $229...Not to mention OC numbers that are on par with the workstation model Asus P5WDG2
To sum it up...You can save 90 bucks and get 8 phase power and the same OC ability for 90 dollars less if you can let go of a few PCI slots due to board layout....

Trust me I did my homework here....LOL
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Old 18-February-06, 07:36 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Thats a great option for an AMD setup....LOL
However I am not sure I can stick my 930D in that board...lol





The P5WD2-E you linked too is a 975X board which is like all 975X boards...Limited to shared PCIX that cuts down to 8x when running dual cards.... cost is $269
Also that premium board only uses 4 phase power....Versus the 8 phase found on the workstation model that costs an extra 40 bucks...P5WDG2-WS @ $319

Now you are probably starting to see why I went with the Gigabyte GA-G1975X model.....8 phase power and 90 dollars less @ $229...Not to mention OC numbers that are on par with the workstation model Asus P5WDG2
To sum it up...You can save 90 bucks and get 8 phase power and the same OC ability for 90 dollars less if you can let go of a few PCI slots due to board layout....

Trust me I did my homework here....LOL

Yeah, you got that right Digi..........
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Old 18-February-06, 07:37 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I would have gone witgh the GIGABYTE anyways only because you can change what you want. You can go with Crossifire or SLI based on your hearts content.
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Old 18-February-06, 07:42 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I would have gone witgh the GIGABYTE anyways only because you can change what you want. You can go with Crossifire or SLI based on your hearts content.

All the 975X boards can do this bro...However the Gigabyte is the only one that comes OFFICIALLY with an SLI connector....

The others will require you to buy one...

And they are still working on official bios releases to get the 7800 series to work in this board...
Nvidia will not OFFICIALLY support it and is being very hesitant to help...

They tend to get a little gready and want their cards running in NVIDIA chipsets only...LOL
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Old 18-February-06, 11:51 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I would have gone witgh the GIGABYTE anyways only because you can change what you want. You can go with Crossifire or SLI based on your hearts content.

Please don't take it the wrong way, but that was a pretty stupid statement.
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Old 19-February-06, 12:07 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Please don't take it the wrong way, but that was a pretty stupid statement.

LOL...
Ready for DAYTONA? w00t
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Old 19-February-06, 01:06 AM   #55 (permalink)
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do you know ift the 975x will support the conroe? i would like to have a 930 presler now, and know that id be able to upgrade to the conroe...

problem is i think the i975x boards right now only support a single joined bus to communicate w/ teh northbridge, but conroe has 2 independant busses to communicate with the northbridge.
i was reading somewhere that there will be a revision "b" i975x that will support conroe... but that still leaves out the conroe XE running @1333fsb when the current 975x mobos support 1066fsb...

can anyone confirm any of this? or am i wrong?
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Old 19-February-06, 01:11 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I am most definitely not in the Intel Info Loop....I am sure that’s kept secret for the select few....

Early reports have said that Conroe will require a newer version of the 975X due to hardware limitations on current gen 975 boards....

From what I hear it’s an fsb limitation and a VRM (Voltage Regulator) issue....Some industry insiders are saying that the chipset itself isn't flawed but the Main boards themselves are....

So look for ver 2.0 on many 975X boards when the Conroe launches in Q2....

I am hoping the 8 phase power regulation on my gigabyte will just need a bios update...but I am dreaming I am sure....

If it requires a new board I'll be selling this one off to get the newer version...LOL

Another note...If the chipset is going to stay as is...There still will not be dual 16x support for Conroe boards either I guess.....So I may stand corrected on my previous statement...

The only ones that really know where this is going are the "INSIDERS" I keep referring too...

Hope that helps some...
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Old 23-February-06, 09:38 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Thought I would update this project a little....

The Hardware is still in shipping....But I had some of the CNC work done to the case....Here are some previews of the case.....Imagine this with the black mesh and red lighting...
Going to be Uber Pimp....
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Old 23-February-06, 09:41 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Also....OCZ just relaeased some super sweet DDR2 that can run at pc800 speeds with 4-3-3-8 timmings.....DROOOOOL...
Boy would I love to try some of this out and see what its capable of....
I hear this has fat body d9 chips in it.....SMOKING HOT.....
Way to go OCZ!!!
Thats the two things I would love to try most on this smoking hot setup....
That memory and one of them sweet NOCTUA coolers that BA reviewed....YUMMMY

I did get the 667 version of this memory....we can see how that does.... w00t



OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Platinum Enhanced Bandwidth Dual Channel

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Old 23-February-06, 09:48 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Thought I would update this project a little....

The Hardware is still in shipping....But I had some of the CNC work done to the case....Here are some previews of the case.....Imagine this with the black mesh and red lighting...
Going to be Uber Pimp....

That is SO COOL!!!! It's going to look SUPER slick

I must find out a bit more about CNC and what they require in order to get work done - I've always liked how CNC work turns out

Can't wait to see how this all goes
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Old 23-February-06, 10:13 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Thought I would update this project a little....

The Hardware is still in shipping....But I had some of the CNC work done to the case....Here are some previews of the case.....Imagine this with the black mesh and red lighting...
Going to be Uber Pimp....

Dude that is some pimp CNC work
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