Canada's MP3 fee tossed

stereomod · 18-December-04, 04:30 PM

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	Canada's Copyright Act allows the Copyright Board of Canada to apply levies to blank media such as blank CDs, DVDs and cassettes. Unfortunatly, the wording of the act is ambiguous and the board has since included digital devices that could be used to store music, including MP3 players and memory cards often used in digital cameras. Ã‚â€œAs desirable as bringing such devices within the ambit of [the Act] might seem, the authority for doing so still has to be found in the Act,Ã‚â€ Judge NoÃƒÂ«l said in his decision. Ã‚â€œIt's a significant setback to getting remuneration for private copying,Ã‚â€ said Paul Audley, a consultant to the Canadian Private Copying Collective. The collective is a non-profit agency that collects and distributes private copying royalties to musicians, songwriters and record companies. Levies on MP3 players were expected to generate roughly CDN$5-million of the CDN$25- to CDN$30-million collected yearly from the blank media tax. Mr. Audley said the collective is considering whether to appeal the court's decision to the Supreme Court of Canada, potentially paving the way for a prolonged legal battle over the rights of musicians in a digital age. This decision now calls into question the legality of copying MP3s to iPods and other devices. By paying the tax, Canadians were granted the right to copy their music to their MP3 players. Now that the judge has declared that the MP3 players were not a recording medium, Canadians may not be allowed to copy their music to their MP3 players, if they purchased the device after December 15th. The Copyright Act clearly defines media that legally can be used for private duplication of copyrighted material and MP3 players no longer meet that criteria. However, a lawyer representing makers of MP3 players, who declined to be identified, scoffed at Mr. Audley's interpretation. Ã‚â€œIf that is true, then all music-copying equipment such as CD players, computers and tape recorders are illegal.Ã‚â€

Thanks to Necro for the link! and story, so now, what do you guys think of this?

aaronrkelly · 18-December-04, 04:35 PM

Its in Canada.....I guess I really dont care either way. You people are odd over there

Cis · 19-December-04, 02:46 AM

So say if I own a player, and decide to rip a bunch of my cd's into mp3 format so I can have a lot of albums and songs available to me on my player.. does this count?

I think this is bull.

The RIAA and CIAA can suck it.
They're getting too greedy now.

Fatsobob · 19-December-04, 02:50 AM

i dont live in canada, but i have something to say, people have been saying this for a long time:
"Down with the RIAA!"
They are trying to take away everything mp3 related.
if it was up to them, ipods would be illigal.

Cyno01 · 19-December-04, 03:40 AM

Double edged sword. Save people a lot of money on blanks and MP3 players, but would this nullify their right to download? Cuz the media tax was supposed to cover losses from downloading so the industry and consumers were even.

TYCOON · 19-December-04, 09:25 AM

So my computer is illegal...right.

Cyno01 · 19-December-04, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TYCOON


	So my computer is illegal...right.

Meh, probably. Better chuck it out the window and turn yourself into the media conglomerates just to be safe.

Kage · 19-December-04, 04:11 PM

My appreciation for MP3's increased by 300% the other day after realising my Pioneer head unit in my car is MP3 compatible. Forget trying to fit 20 songs onto a CD, try 200 on for size.

Too bad the RIAA doesn't just take after Tekk's santa and SHOVE IT.

$SOLID$ Necro · 19-December-04, 05:44 PM

Yeah, it sucks for Canada, I am sure people in the US are looking at something similar...You know Government and Lawyers can't stand not getting there hands on your money!

godfoot · 19-December-04, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kage


	My appreciation for MP3's increased by 300% the other day after realising my Pioneer head unit in my car is MP3 compatible. Forget trying to fit 20 songs onto a CD, try 200 on for size. Too bad the RIAA doesn't just take after Tekk's santa and SHOVE IT.

How can you call yourself a self-respecting geek NOT knowing that info already?

*of course, I still know next to nothing about fibre-channel*

ShoRyukEn · 20-December-04, 01:46 AM

You cant burn onto MP3 players bought after December 15? It's like a company full of grinches or something, there goes the point of alot of peoples Christmas presents.

Joose · 20-December-04, 10:35 AM

I'd LOVE to see then try and enforce this law

PHLAK · 20-December-04, 01:35 PM

AMEN!!! This sums it up for what I have to say about it all!!! I know Casper will come in here and flame us for hating the RIAA but hey it's my opinion....right? j/k Casper!

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Originally Posted by Cis


	I think this is bull. The RIAA and CIAA can suck it. They're getting too greedy now.

EDIT---Oh yeah I forgot that my signature saying says it all also!!! LOL

18-December-04, 04:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
aaronrkelly Apex Tech God Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arrgh!!! in a pirate ship watching me video CDs and listen to MP3s Posts: 2,720	Its in Canada.....I guess I really dont care either way. You people are odd over there __________________

19-December-04, 02:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cis Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 794	So say if I own a player, and decide to rip a bunch of my cd's into mp3 format so I can have a lot of albums and songs available to me on my player.. does this count? I think this is bull. The RIAA and CIAA can suck it. They're getting too greedy now. __________________ "Let's face it, comedy is a dead art form. Now tragedy, ha ha ha, that's funny." - Bender (Futurama)

19-December-04, 02:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Fatsobob Apex's Squirrel Revolutionary Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,629	i dont live in canada, but i have something to say, people have been saying this for a long time: "Down with the RIAA!" They are trying to take away everything mp3 related. if it was up to them, ipods would be illigal. __________________ I may not post too often, but I will always be here.

19-December-04, 03:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cyno01 Apex Tech God Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Whitewater, WI Posts: 3,869	Double edged sword. Save people a lot of money on blanks and MP3 players, but would this nullify their right to download? Cuz the media tax was supposed to cover losses from downloading so the industry and consumers were even. __________________ Facebook me!

19-December-04, 09:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SCHOOLLLSSS Posts: 4,728	So my computer is illegal...right. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz DFI LanParty SLI-D 2GBs PC3200 @ PC3500 // 2.5-3-3-6 EVGA 7950GT 512MB @ Stock Audigy 2 ZS 36Gb Raptor (os) 2x300Gb WD SATA 16MB CACHE (storage) 450Watt OCZ modstream Coolermaster Wavemaster

19-December-04, 04:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kage Lokie's Personal WU-Hoe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: WI Posts: 1,906	My appreciation for MP3's increased by 300% the other day after realising my Pioneer head unit in my car is MP3 compatible. Forget trying to fit 20 songs onto a CD, try 200 on for size. Too bad the RIAA doesn't just take after Tekk's santa and SHOVE IT.

19-December-04, 05:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lima, Ohio Posts: 7,217	Yeah, it sucks for Canada, I am sure people in the US are looking at something similar...You know Government and Lawyers can't stand not getting there hands on your money! __________________ Join the PC Apex "Overclock and Benchmark" team today! Click Here! Necro's "Ultimate Links" Collection Click Here!

20-December-04, 10:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Joose Joosey Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milton, Ontario Posts: 5,537	I'd LOVE to see then try and enforce this law __________________ Joose - joosy since 1975 Cheap, Good, Fast - You can only have two out of three.

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