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Old 22-July-04, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Web News: Senator wants to ban P2P networks

The chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary said Thursday that a ban on file-trading networks is urgently required but agreed to work with tech companies concerned that devices like Apple Computer's iPod would be imperiled.
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Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said he intended to move ahead with the highly controversial Induce Act despite objections from dozens of Internet providers and Silicon Valley manufacturers. The Induce Act says "whoever intentionally induces any violation" of copyright law would be legally liable for those violations.

Hatch added, however, that he welcomed comments from critics. "If you help us, we just might get it right," he said. "If you don't, we're going to do it. Something has to be done. There's no way to solve these problems so everyone's totally pleased."

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Old 23-July-04, 09:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Rep., Utah; is now the biggest a$$ the Senate has since Helms and Strom Thurmond have left. If it has to do with technology, he sticks his head in the sand and proposes the stupidest possible solution. His staffers must like jerking his chain and making him look like an idiot. He'd hold a teleconference [on a telephone...] with the media to describe legislation to ban telephones so people will quit pulling the 'Prince Albert in a can' joke. That is of course if the grocers' lobby has ponied up.

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Old 24-July-04, 03:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Lets just ban the internet too while we're at it.

I wonder how big of a kickback he's getting for this...
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Old 24-July-04, 03:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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And how would this affect us not living in Utah?
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Old 24-July-04, 04:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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And how would this affect us not living in Utah?

Well, he's a Senator.... that'd be national.

EDIT: Ok, for clarity... the effect of such regulation will be national. It's federal policy congressmen decide.
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Old 24-July-04, 04:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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N/m, just hopped on a fast, anonymous proxy!!
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Old 24-July-04, 06:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Like I mentioned in another thread, this won't be worth the paper it's printed on as the Supreme Court will slam dunk his stupid ass over something as asinine as this.

The Induce Act basically states that you cannot provide a service which would "induce" others to commit a copyright crime. This would not only affect P2P networks, but would also ban the sale of such items as cassette recorders, video cassette recorders, DVD recorders, photographic cameras, videographic cameras, and any and all means of electronically recording copyright material. The same companies within the RIAA (Sony, for example) is doing nothing but biting it's own tail because this would prevent them from selling their line of VCRs, cameras, etc.

This isn't going anywhere. Our Congressmen as of late have grown ignorant as to the true purpose of what our government should be all about (the Patriot Act is a prime example of that). Every year, partisan politics have taken precedent over common sense and it's driving this country straight to hell. I would love to see the day where any politician is willing to stand up for what is right, even if it means the end of their political career. Seems to me they are more worried about trying to stay around for as long as they can instead of doing something for the common good of this country.

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Our Congressmen as of late have grown ignorant as to the true purpose of what our government should be all about (the Patriot Act is a prime example of that). Every year, partisan politics have taken precedent over common sense and it's driving this country straight to hell. I would love to see the day where any politician is willing to stand up for what is right, even if it means the end of their political career. Seems to me they are more worried about trying to stay around for as long as they can instead of doing something for the common good of this country.

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If they do the right thing they just get assasinated, or pushed out under the weight of the cash money.

Moving to Europe is looking better, and better everyday.
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And how would this affect us not living in Utah?

True, True
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Old 09-August-04, 03:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Moving to Europe is looking better, and better everyday.

I'd rather just move to Canada. I can pretend to be richer because their money is worth less!
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I'd rather just move to Canada. I can pretend to be richer because their money is worth less!

yah pretty much and P2P networks are legal here!!! once i get a few more hdd i'll be makeing my own P2p

i'd just like to know WTH is the big issues with P2p we pay taxes on the media that we buy! Thats how we get around the whole issues of p2p and mp3's and all that other BS man if i had a dime for everytime i heard some government biatching about P2P id be rich enough to give them a grand and tell them to fly off

anyway thats my 2 centsfrom canada with love, I hope you guys get this silly issue resolved!!! and if it falls through then theres always Mirc!!!!
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