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27-January-05, 02:10 PM
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| Apex Tech God  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada
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-Hmm, are you using 64-bit Windows? If not, then what's your point? 
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27-January-05, 08:40 PM
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| Apex Tech Maniac Supreme  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mich-HOE-gan
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| There are plenty of 64bit Intel processors, you just can't find many in desktops, or laptops as the case is with my A64. Which is completetly pointless to consider until Windoes XP64 is fully functional with 32-bit apps (many use a 16-bit installer and are not able to install in 32-bit mode...) |
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24-April-05, 04:55 PM
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| Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Apr 2005
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| I've not used Intel since my PII 450 back in 1998 or so. Since then it's been AMD all the way. Idon't count the fact that my laptop is a P4 2.6, it's a laptop it does not count OK? And if you force the issue I'll just throw it in the trash! Currently running two FX53's an FX55 and a 4000 clawhammer, currently not running an XP2800+, XP2600+, XP2500+ all Bartons and an XP2200 and XP2000. They are just taking up floor space in my 'workshop' ( the spare bedroom). My wife used to nag me to sell stuff or throw it out, things got so bad she told me, on more than one occasion, that if the computers did not start going out of the door instead of constantly in it that she would leave me. Thankfully that issue is now resolved. I live alone! But I live in a world of gadgets and I can buy boytoys to my heart's content. Last edited by ZootCadillac; 24-April-05 at 05:10 PM. Reason: typo |
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26-April-05, 09:41 AM
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| Apex Techie Wannabe Join Date: Apr 2005
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There ought to be a law against that kind of talk!  I have relegated the little used laptop to keeping the door ajar so I can hear the front doorbell go. It now actually seems quite functional! | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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01-July-05, 07:32 PM
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| Apex Master Tech Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada
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| Where's the VIA option? lol just kidding. They should stop trying.
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02-July-05, 06:32 PM
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| Apex Techie Lite  Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mi
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 | Im intel all the way and before I get a quarl of nasty responces let me explain why. After reading this thread (all the way through) Im please to see the experience here dealing with CPU's. Some of you have been around for a really long time and have seen many changes, many ups and downs, and many king's of the hill, dethroned. Ill go the route many other have done and start with what I've had in my (few) past systems. My first computer was based around the P4 2.4C. Most of you know the OCing potential of this chip. Especially if you recieve the right Northwood core. Product Highlights: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...400c-oc_3.html Pentium 4 2.4C is intended for work with 800MHz bus. It means that it requires mainboards supporting 200MHz FSB. Such mainboards are those based on the new i875 and i865 chipsets and also – overclocker mainboards based on the old and time-tested i845PE. Thus, Pentium 4 2.4C has a fixed multiplier = 12x. Pentium 4 2.4C supports Hyper-Threading, which once was available only in top-end Pentium 4 CPUs. As you know, Hyper-Threading refers to a virtual multiprocessor system. One physical CPU is recognized by the system as two logical CPUs: it helps to load the processor’s computational units to the full and, as a result, to achieve a certain performance gain. By launching new processors supporting 800MHz bus, Intel announced its new approach to the CPU voltage formation. The company won’t set a fixed voltage, but will suggest a range of voltages. During the actual production stage all processors are divided into four classes. Each class has a certain voltage from 1.475 to 1.55V, depending on the die quality. Of course, models with the minimal core voltage are most interesting for overclockers as they have the highest speed-up potential. However, there is no marking on the processor telling its voltage, so you cannot know the voltage until you install the CPU into the mainboard. The last feature of Pentium 4 2.4C is the use of the new D1 core stepping, coming down from the top-end Pentium 4 processors. This stepping has F29h CPUID and is going to ensure good overclockability. This chip quickly became a hero for the intel world. It wasnt uncommon for overclocks with stock heatsinks to reach above 3.0ghz. I have yet to reach the max of this core. I need to upgrade the ram and step things up to WC. When money allows, I'll go for it. The next chip that I purchased was based off the "prescHott" core. I purchased the 3.4E. This is chip is what my current system is based around. ITs soon going to be working cooler via' my new WC setup. Product Overview: http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardwar...261_3329681__1 The internal architecture is where the Prescott really differs from the previous Northwood core design. The most prominent change has been to double the cache levels, where the Prescott core features a full 16K of L1 cache (8K for the Northwood) and a full 1-MB of L2 cache (512K - Northwood). There are other smaller changes, such as the 8-way associative L1 cache of the Prescott (4-way associative for the Northwood), while the 1-MB L2 cache retains the same 8-way associative format as the Northwood. The Prescott core is built upon a 90nm (0.09-micron) process technology, and will allow Intel to increase clock speeds and lower core voltages more significantly than the older 0.13-micron Northwood core would allow.  The most contentious architectural change is the extending of the Prescott pipeline, in order to facilitate higher frequencies. This strategy presents some challenges, as performance is impacted, but it comes with the benefit of higher clock speeds, and in a much faster timeline. It also brings back those old "AMD vs. Intel" battles where IPC (instructions per clock) is tossed back and forth like a hot potato. This is what I did as soon as I bought this chip. It took some balls, let me say. I lapped down to the copper core of the heatspreader. Most of you know the benefits of copper, I wont bore you with the basics of what this gains.    Now that we have a background of my past CPU experiences (though small) I can move on to why I remain a "fan boy." Most of you are well aware of SLi (must have been in a hole somehwere if your not) and the upcoming answer to nvidia's mulit video card solution, ATi's CrossFire. I have a few points to make. Given the new chipset by Nforce to allow SLi on the intel platform, as well as solutions from ATi on the horizon, I would like to make one simple point. Many of you have previously stated the number crunching power of intel for folding and other heavy encoding tasks, would it not make sense to have the nice chip from intel based around one of these awsome(SLi, CrossFire) graphic crunching platfroms? You would have the best of both worlds, awsome number crunching paired with a dual VC solution. Maybe some of you have realized this. This is the sole reason why im sticking it out with intel. Sure the X2 is crazy sweet with gaming numbers but, Intel isn't that far behind in thier numbers where this is really going to matter (no crazy huge performance diff). As far as im concerned, against the rest of the majority here, its intel paired with a multi VC solution. Throw some water cooling in there and your strait. Besides, we keep talking about gaming benefits. The difference isn't going to kill your performance while gaming. Its all on your skillz. Your not going to be thinking while fragging away, "man I wish I had an FX-57 over my EE." I dont think it happens. If it does, your heads not in the game. Just my thoughts, Aothen.
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02-July-05, 08:21 PM
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| a.k.a., Frank Bullitt  Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Have Gun ....Will Travel.....
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 | Well.........let's see............you definitely know how to copt & paste..............plus using a WHOLE lot of forum room  ......and we already saw those pics in the other thread...... so...............tell us (without using a whole page in the forum)............what's the purpose in this post??? 
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02-July-05, 11:41 PM
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| Apex Techie Lite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mi
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They were just my thoughts...... MY bad. 
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08-July-05, 07:58 PM
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| Sir Knight of Spamalot  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Water-hoe-Bury, CT
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| AMD 'nuff said
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01-August-05, 09:52 PM
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| Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme  Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: all over the continental USA, sometimes across the pond for work
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VIA does put out quite a lot of flops relative to thermal loss. I happen to like the various high-density opteron-based pieces of hardware out there.
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