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Old 26-November-04, 01:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's a thought I had while my friend of 20 years and I had while brainstorming potential builds. I've seen many builds made from plexiglass. I was thinking, why not reverse paint the layers of a candyapple paint job on the inside of the sheets of a clear case for a really deep, deep candyapple finish? The icing on the cake is a very rugged finish!

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Old 26-November-04, 01:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd thought about that before.

My first "modded" case was a hand-built plexiglass case, and I thought about painting the insides of it, but that would definitley take away a couple of months of hard work if I screwed up.

I'm thinking about building another case, completely custom, for my server. If you try that out, let me know how it goes.

It's a good idea, but I don't know how durable it would be what with nothing to really stick to with a perfectly flat surface. I guess if you take care when installing components, it wouldn't really be too hard.


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Old 26-November-04, 02:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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...It's a good idea, but I don't know how durable it would be what with nothing to really stick to with a perfectly flat surface. I guess if you take care when installing components, it wouldn't really be too hard...

...I suppose a carefully applied clearcoat on the inside would help. However, once it's together the outside would be nearly indestructable. All but the heaviest scratches could be just polished out. As a matter of fact I was considering a possible application. It'd work because the case would actually slide onto a frame from the top. With internal soft guides on the frame the risk to the finish would be nil. Not to sound conceited, but the concept is being kept secret by my friend and I, it could make us some money. They will be Athlon based, of course! We'll post the completed project here if we do this build and anyone here will have permission to duplicate it if they wish, but not sell.

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Old 26-November-04, 02:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Actually it would work fine as long as you put an adhesion promoter such as BullDog on first. I have done similar stuff before and it looks great. I still like the look of real cady better.
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Old 26-November-04, 12:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We'll post the completed project here if we do this build and anyone here will have permission to duplicate it if they wish, but not sell.

Better get a utility patent on the process before you post then.

However, it would have to be a major breakthrough in the painting technique otherwise I don't think it would fly with the USPTO. They are really strict in the approval process for both design and utility patents, so much so that quite a lot of them are shot down in the preliminary reviews. My advice is to secure a patent attorney once you complete your research and begin the process of getting your new technique protected.

If you do post the process without a patent, there are no legal grounds to stop anyone from using the technique, even if they use the technique in a product that they sell. Since it was talked about in an open forum (i.e., an internet forum), it becomes public property. Additionally, stating that you do hold a patent or that a patent was applied for is illegal under U.S. law.

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Old 26-November-04, 09:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Better get a utility patent on the process before you post then.

However, it would have to be a major breakthrough in the painting technique otherwise I don't think it would fly with the USPTO. They are really strict in the approval process for both design and utility patents, so much so that quite a lot of them are shot down in the preliminary reviews. My advice is to secure a patent attorney once you complete your research and begin the process of getting your new technique protected.

If you do post the process without a patent, there are no legal grounds to stop anyone from using the technique, even if they use the technique in a product that they sell. Since it was talked about in an open forum (i.e., an internet forum), it becomes public property. Additionally, stating that you do hold a patent or that a patent was applied for is illegal under U.S. law.

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Um, let's see, where to start.

I wasn't discussing a revolutionary paint application, just a "reverse" candyapple finish. As was pointed out by Lunamods, he already tried it.

The second half of my post was that it might be used on a conceptual case/computer that we might build and sell. Thus far the PC discussed was not described, just the paint job.

If it was illegal to tell others you've got or applied for a patent on an item or process you would never see patent numbers or "Patent Pending" on items or documentation for processes.

As far as the USPO, Google found it for me two or three years ago and it's in my bookmarks, thanks anyway.

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Old 26-November-04, 09:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If it was illegal to tell others you've got or applied for a patent on an item or process you would never see patent numbers or "Patent Pending" on items or documentation for processes.

I guess I should have clarified further...if you don't have or have not applied for a patent yet you claim you have is illegal. Commerce is pretty big on enforcing that law, too.

The only reason why I brought any of it up was your statement about "anyone here will have permission to duplicate it if they wish, but not sell". Just trying to give you a helpful hint.

Oh, and it's the USPTO, not the USPO.

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Old 26-November-04, 10:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This process has been done many times. So sorry not a new idea but how you do your application will determine the outcome.
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Old 26-November-04, 10:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That's funny...permission to duplicate...
and how pray tell can you enforce that?
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Old 26-November-04, 11:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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and how pray tell can you enforce that?

Santabot sees all. ph3ar...

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Old 26-November-04, 11:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's funny...permission to duplicate...
and how pray tell can you enforce that?

Okay, Okay. If it really matters that much, I won't patent damn thing, okay?
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Old 26-November-04, 11:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This process has been done many times. So sorry not a new idea but how you do your application will determine the outcome.

It seems that it's not, I'd like to see an example, maybe one in the galleries? Maybe just try it on scrap plexiglass, I don't know.
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Old 26-November-04, 11:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I guess I should have clarified further...if you don't have or have not applied for a patent yet you claim you have is illegal. Commerce is pretty big on enforcing that law, too.

The only reason why I brought any of it up was your statement about "anyone here will have permission to duplicate it if they wish, but not sell". Just trying to give you a helpful hint.

Oh, and it's the USPTO, not the USPO.

Rob

No, we don't have a patent, it's just a "wow, that would be cool" type of stage. Hell, we're both very busy with work and families, might not happen but once or twice, end up here and that'll be the end. Either way's fine with me.

2nd point, oh well, I guess I missed a key, it happens.
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Old 27-November-04, 12:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well Fu3lmans window I did to test it out, I liked it so much I did a PSU with it, then was a good friend of mine that was a superman fan, and last was my CD case all in my gallery here in PR.
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Old 27-November-04, 01:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Well Fu3lmans window I did to test it out, I liked it so much I did a PSU with it, then was a good friend of mine that was a superman fan, and last was my CD case all in my gallery here in PR.

I like your work. The Chameleon Dragon I theme is actually very dynamic when lit at night and the two tone lighting hits the spot. I can't use any windows in anything I build, though. I get enough hash from my twisted pair and from my upstairs neighbors "room full" of computers on my amateur radio gear as it is. Unless we put some kind of shielding, the box that uses the paint job in question would deal me the same problems.

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Old 07-December-04, 10:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I just had a though about this and may be a cool Idea for a skilled painter, like you flame painter guys, paint the clear case and tape off flames or tribal patterns or what ever and leave those areas unpainted as "windows".... Im sure its been thought of and if not I want to see it done!
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Old 07-December-04, 11:44 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It seems that it's not, I'd like to see an example, maybe one in the galleries? Maybe just try it on scrap plexiglass, I don't know.

over at bit-tech all the black in this cse is painted from the inside..
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