Airbrush?

Dimazz · 26-April-04, 06:51 PM

Hey paint pimps!!! Whats a good (or decent) airbrush for a n00b? No pricerange.

And is it hard to achive this techniqe?\/\/ see pic

The penciled look? I guess u can call it

davidkruta · 26-April-04, 07:07 PM

im assuming you dont have much experience with traditional paints and drawing (correct me if im wrong please). as with any artistic tool, they require practice and perseverance, so dont expect to get a good finish the 1st time you try, or the next 10 times. read up on techniques, take a class, whatever. (its easier if youre good in other mediums, but its a different tool so you still have to learn how to use it)

to answer your first question, paasche makes very good airbrushes. a good site to purchase them is MisterArt. here are some brushes

Lunamods · 26-April-04, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimazz


	Hey paint pimps!!! Whats a good (or decent) airbrush for a n00b? No pricerange. And is it hard to achive this techniqe?\/\/ see pic The penciled look? I guess u can call it

Paasche VL, no comparison foe the price.You can get the kit for around $60.

Next would be an Iwata Eclipse,more expensive but well worth it.

check here http://www.airbrush-depot.com

EDIT: If you need a small compressor I have one I will sell ya cheap

Vada Fae · 26-April-04, 07:49 PM

I used to love my Badger 150 but I switched from lacquer to water based and the old 150 didnt like it. I use an Iwata Eclipse bottom feed right now and its pretty sweet. I wish I would have purchased the gravity feed but then I would have liked the other bottom feed better. I think I need both!

Dimazz · 26-April-04, 08:33 PM

Thanks guys!!!

DO I need a tank for an airbrush?

Luna, how much? PM me

I found this ebay auction, pretty good deal, ima prolly do it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...102106254&rd=1

LUNA PM ME!!!!

Lunamods · 26-April-04, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimazz


	Thanks guys!!! DO I need a tank for an airbrush? Luna, how much? PM me I found this ebay auction, pretty good deal, ima prolly do it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...102106254&rd=1 LUNA PM ME!!!!

Yea,thats an OK price but I personally think you should spend $5-$10 extra and get it from a retailer so you dont have to put up with Ebays crap

Dimazz · 14-May-04, 07:27 PM

Alrighty, im almost set to start brushing stuff

But I have a few more questions, first off I need paint. What paints are good, useable with an airbrush. I will be painting metal, i dont know if this matters.

Secondly, how do I go about prepping the surface? Normal primer?

Thanks

ADD :: Noone told me how hard it would be to get that look in that pic, or in luna's sig. Im asking more how to do it then how hard. Would I use a stencil or the brush?

CasseModder · 17-May-04, 07:48 PM

I used normal primer for metal make sure the surface is very smooth you dont want to restart its a pain in the a** I usual start off by drawing the image on the case with a black pencil then i paint as i go along it depends on the person and the time you got to do it in

After you have added the paint go over any errors you did if your doing a image with high detail (faces,landscapes,etc) fill in the areas with pencil,marker whatever does the job so it can look killer. You must also airbrush inside a place where their isnt any wind you dont want to make a boo boo

When all your painting is done add some clear coat so it can look like a new car shine

Hope i helped

Dimazz · 17-May-04, 08:13 PM

yes, that did help. Thank you, now when i get my compressor from Luna, I can start painting

Dimazz · 20-May-04, 08:17 PM

KK, well I got the compressor, thanks LUna!!!! Now one more thing, where do I get paint at? And what kind is good? Im painting metal.

I was looking at airbrush-depot.com, im not sure if their prices are good though. Thanks

Vada Fae · 20-May-04, 09:20 PM

I think you want sign paints. I usually paint clear plastics so im not sure.

Lunamods · 20-May-04, 09:32 PM

If it is bare metal just put a coat of primer on it first and then use any kind of paint you want. You can use just about anything on bare metal also just as long as it is free of oily substances. Createx and Parma paints are good for airbrushing and can be used on anything. Just thin them down a little with water. Both brand I mentioned are the same thing only they sell more colors under the Parma name, they even have chameleon and metallic colors.

Dimazz · 21-May-04, 02:25 PM

So they dont have to be airbrush specific paints? You can just use for example normal Testors paint, cause I have a bunch of that from painting models. Or acrylic paint, will that do?

Vada Fae · 21-May-04, 02:36 PM

Those will both work however that Testors Model paint is uber thick. You just need to thin them out to the consistency of milk. Testors has good gloss for sign work but you might have to clear coat anything water based to get some gloss and to protect it from the elements.

Lunamods · 21-May-04, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimazz


	So they dont have to be airbrush specific paints? You can just use for example normal Testors paint, cause I have a bunch of that from painting models. Or acrylic paint, will that do?

Yea, Testors will work fine but needs to be thinned. Usually places that sell Testors model paints also sell a large bottle of airbrush thinner formulated for their paints.Laquer thinner will work also but will cause it to dry a lot faster and if you use too much air pressure it will "cobweb", it will dry in the air and make streams of tiny threads that look like colored cobwebs.

Dimazz · 21-May-04, 03:23 PM

KK, well, i tried painting something. The thing wont suck up the paint? Am I doin something wrong? I attached the hose, put the color thing on, pushed down on the lever and pulled back and nada. I was just using water to test it out and it doesnt work?!? The little thing where you put the paint doesnt even feel like its sucking? Any ideas?

Vada Fae · 21-May-04, 03:52 PM

Does the needle move in and out of the nozzle when you pull back on the trigger?

And about that sample image you have, it would be difficult for me since I suck at the hand painting part of that but I could do the airbrush work. It depends on your particular talents and abitlities. Luna could probably whip something out like that in less than 20 minutes.

Dimazz · 21-May-04, 04:18 PM

Ya it moves in and out, and yes the air comes out of the brush, the little thing at the bottom just isnt sucking though?!!?!?!?!?

Vada Fae · 21-May-04, 04:33 PM

What brush did you end up getting?

Lunamods · 21-May-04, 04:42 PM

Make sure the siphon tube is cut at an angle on the bottom.Sometimes maunfacturers leavethem strait cut and it prevents suction. You will not feel a suction from the brush, it is very light.

26-April-04, 06:51 PM		#1 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	Airbrush? Hey paint pimps!!! Whats a good (or decent) airbrush for a n00b? No pricerange. And is it hard to achive this techniqe?\/\/ see pic The penciled look? I guess u can call it Attached Thumbnails

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Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	Alrighty, im almost set to start brushing stuff But I have a few more questions, first off I need paint. What paints are good, useable with an airbrush. I will be painting metal, i dont know if this matters. Secondly, how do I go about prepping the surface? Normal primer? Thanks ADD :: Noone told me how hard it would be to get that look in that pic, or in luna's sig. Im asking more how to do it then how hard. Would I use a stencil or the brush? Last edited by Dimazz; 14-May-04 at 07:34 PM..

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26-April-04, 07:07 PM		#2 (permalink)
davidkruta Apex Master Tech	im assuming you dont have much experience with traditional paints and drawing (correct me if im wrong please). as with any artistic tool, they require practice and perseverance, so dont expect to get a good finish the 1st time you try, or the next 10 times. read up on techniques, take a class, whatever. (its easier if youre good in other mediums, but its a different tool so you still have to learn how to use it) to answer your first question, paasche makes very good airbrushes. a good site to purchase them is MisterArt. here are some brushes

26-April-04, 07:49 PM		#4 (permalink)
Vada Fae Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	I used to love my Badger 150 but I switched from lacquer to water based and the old 150 didnt like it. I use an Iwata Eclipse bottom feed right now and its pretty sweet. I wish I would have purchased the gravity feed but then I would have liked the other bottom feed better. I think I need both!

26-April-04, 08:33 PM		#5 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	Thanks guys!!! DO I need a tank for an airbrush? Luna, how much? PM me I found this ebay auction, pretty good deal, ima prolly do it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...102106254&rd=1 LUNA PM ME!!!!

17-May-04, 07:48 PM		#8 (permalink)
CasseModder Lokie's lil kneeling Hoe	I used normal primer for metal make sure the surface is very smooth you dont want to restart its a pain in the a** I usual start off by drawing the image on the case with a black pencil then i paint as i go along it depends on the person and the time you got to do it in After you have added the paint go over any errors you did if your doing a image with high detail (faces,landscapes,etc) fill in the areas with pencil,marker whatever does the job so it can look killer. You must also airbrush inside a place where their isnt any wind you dont want to make a boo boo When all your painting is done add some clear coat so it can look like a new car shine Hope i helped

17-May-04, 08:13 PM		#9 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	yes, that did help. Thank you, now when i get my compressor from Luna, I can start painting

20-May-04, 08:17 PM		#10 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	KK, well I got the compressor, thanks LUna!!!! Now one more thing, where do I get paint at? And what kind is good? Im painting metal. I was looking at airbrush-depot.com, im not sure if their prices are good though. Thanks

20-May-04, 09:20 PM		#11 (permalink)
Vada Fae Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	I think you want sign paints. I usually paint clear plastics so im not sure.

20-May-04, 09:32 PM		#12 (permalink)
Lunamods Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	If it is bare metal just put a coat of primer on it first and then use any kind of paint you want. You can use just about anything on bare metal also just as long as it is free of oily substances. Createx and Parma paints are good for airbrushing and can be used on anything. Just thin them down a little with water. Both brand I mentioned are the same thing only they sell more colors under the Parma name, they even have chameleon and metallic colors.

21-May-04, 02:25 PM		#13 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	So they dont have to be airbrush specific paints? You can just use for example normal Testors paint, cause I have a bunch of that from painting models. Or acrylic paint, will that do?

21-May-04, 02:36 PM		#14 (permalink)
Vada Fae Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	Those will both work however that Testors Model paint is uber thick. You just need to thin them out to the consistency of milk. Testors has good gloss for sign work but you might have to clear coat anything water based to get some gloss and to protect it from the elements.

21-May-04, 03:23 PM		#16 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	KK, well, i tried painting something. The thing wont suck up the paint? Am I doin something wrong? I attached the hose, put the color thing on, pushed down on the lever and pulled back and nada. I was just using water to test it out and it doesnt work?!? The little thing where you put the paint doesnt even feel like its sucking? Any ideas?

21-May-04, 03:52 PM		#17 (permalink)
Vada Fae Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	Does the needle move in and out of the nozzle when you pull back on the trigger? And about that sample image you have, it would be difficult for me since I suck at the hand painting part of that but I could do the airbrush work. It depends on your particular talents and abitlities. Luna could probably whip something out like that in less than 20 minutes.

21-May-04, 04:18 PM		#18 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	Ya it moves in and out, and yes the air comes out of the brush, the little thing at the bottom just isnt sucking though?!!?!?!?!?

21-May-04, 04:33 PM		#19 (permalink)
Vada Fae Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	What brush did you end up getting?

21-May-04, 04:42 PM		#20 (permalink)
Lunamods Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	Make sure the siphon tube is cut at an angle on the bottom.Sometimes maunfacturers leavethem strait cut and it prevents suction. You will not feel a suction from the brush, it is very light.