PC won't stay on!

bennett · 12-November-04, 11:29 AM

My pc won't stay on! It hasn't done anything like this in a long time. I haven't moved it or bumped it. It just shuts of instantly and randomly, whether I'm working on it or not. Why would this happen? What can I do to fix it? My brother is a hardware wiz, but he can't get over here to diagnose. PLEASE HELP!
Here is a collage of my modded pc.
http://supercarfreak.net/gallery/Pho...ri_case?full=1

Im_gumby · 12-November-04, 11:42 AM

Have you verified that the heatsink is still properly attached, air intakes not plugged up with dust bunnies, all power and switch connections are properly seated?

bennett · 12-November-04, 11:48 AM

As far as I can tell, everything is tip-top. It's not dirty, and everything is plugged in and clear.

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Originally Posted by Im_gumby


	Have you verified that the heatsink is still properly attached, air intakes not plugged up with dust bunnies, all power and switch connections are properly seated?

turbopsi · 12-November-04, 11:52 AM

Sounds like an overheating problem. Are you sure the heatsink isn't halfway on there?

SexyPants · 12-November-04, 11:55 AM

Do you know what your temperatures are? If not, install motherbord monitor and tell us what it reads

bennett · 12-November-04, 11:58 AM

I would like to do that, but it doesn't stay on long enough to do anything. A few seconds and it shuts off, never completely boots up.

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Originally Posted by _Sexy_Pants_


	Do you know what your temperatures are? If not, install motherbord monitor and tell us what it reads

turbopsi · 12-November-04, 12:00 PM

Then it's either your CPU fan is not connected properly to the motherboard, and it shuts off for protection, or the heatsink isn't on properly and it is overheating.

Enko · 12-November-04, 12:03 PM

pop the case open and see if you can wiggle the heatsink.

stereomod · 12-November-04, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by turbopsi


	Then it's either your CPU fan is not connected properly to the motherboard, and it shuts off for protection, or the heatsink isn't on properly and it is overheating.

either that or you have one hell of a nasty virus, might i inquire as to what you have for an AV??

bennett · 12-November-04, 12:19 PM

I wiggled the heatsink, now it powers up but nothing happens. My lights are red-green on top and green-red on bottom, constant(not blinking).

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Originally Posted by stereomod


	either that or you have one hell of a nasty virus, might i inquire as to what you have for an AV??

Enko · 12-November-04, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bennett


	I wiggled the heatsink, now it powers up but nothing happens. My lights are red-green on top and green-red on bottom, constant(not blinking).

when you wiggled it, how much play was there? that was supposed to check if your heatsink is falling off or not. if you could move it a lot, its not attached right.

bennett · 12-November-04, 12:28 PM

It's on there good, I know that much. I have an MSI K7T Turbo 2 motherboard, but I can't view what the damn lights mean from the manual. Adobe acrobat doesn't want to read the page that has my problem on it, but every other page is fine. Today's sign that the apocolypse is upon us.

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Originally Posted by Enko


	when you wiggled it, how much play was there? that was supposed to check if your heatsink is falling off or not. if you could move it a lot, its not attached right.

ZENNZZO · 12-November-04, 12:35 PM

Link the page you need and I'll get it for ya...

Could be as simple as a faulty power switch too.
Make sure the power button is of the inermittent type, and is working correctly.
It could be a number of things, so you'll have to use the process of elimination.
A nice clear pic of the inside of the computer would be excellent.

Just use the "additional options" box below the one you reply in.
Click on "manage attachments" under the "attach files" tab...
another window will pop-up and allow you to browse your files,

A pic is worth a thousand words and that'll get us started with some help...

Welcome to Pimprig.

bennett · 12-November-04, 12:42 PM

Believe me, I would love to send a picture, but I have no way of getting a picture onto this computer. On my other (busted) one sure, but not here, this is a much older pc. I can't even open the page of the manual because it wants a chinese language pack, but you need adobe acrobat 6.0 for that, and you can't have 6.0 on Windows 98, which is the OS on this pc. Anyone want to get the manual and look at page 18 for me? Tell me what red-green top, green-red bottom means?
My motherboard is an MSI K7T Turbo2.
Thanks to everyone looking and trying to help! It's assuring to know that there are people out there that realy do care enough to lend their time and skills to this.

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Originally Posted by ZENNZZO


	Link the page you need and I'll get it for ya... Could be as simple as a faulty power switch too. Make sure the power button is of the inermittent type, and is working correctly. It could be a number of things, so you'll have to use the process of elimination. A nice clear pic of the inside of the computer would be excellent. Just use the "additional options" box below the one you reply in. Click on "manage attachments" under the "attach files" tab... another window will pop-up and allow you to browse your files, A pic is worth a thousand words and that'll get us started with some help... Welcome to Pimprig.

suavestdevil · 12-November-04, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennett


	It's on there good, I know that much. I have an MSI K7T Turbo 2 motherboard, but I can't view what the damn lights mean from the manual. Adobe acrobat doesn't want to read the page that has my problem on it, but every other page is fine. Today's sign that the apocolypse is upon us.

The first thing I would do after all this wiggling would be to remove the heatsink, clean everything up good and reapply some good Arctic5 heat paste and see what happens from there. This def sounds like a pure heat prob.

bennett · 12-November-04, 01:06 PM

For reasons beyond natural belief, it's working fine, for now. I'm now one step closer to believing that AI is real, that it comes embedded in every version of Windows, and that my pc was taunting me, laughing its sweet ass off in binary code. If it collapses again, I'll let you know. Until then, thank you all very much for trying to help. I mean it, you have nothing to gain by looking and replying on these help channels other than some self-worth and you do it so unselfishly, I know that sounds "Full House"-ish, but you really do make the days brighter.
If you want to see what I use my computer for, check out my photoshop galleries:
http://bennettua.deviantart.com/gallery/

Enko · 12-November-04, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennett


	For reasons beyond natural belief, it's working fine, for now. I'm now one step closer to believing that AI is real, that it comes embedded in every version of Windows, and that my pc was taunting me, laughing its sweet ass off in binary code. If it collapses again, I'll let you know. Until then, thank you all very much for trying to help. I mean it, you have nothing to gain by looking and replying on these help channels other than some self-worth and you do it so unselfishly, I know that sounds "Full House"-ish, but you really do make the days brighter. If you want to see what I use my computer for, check out my photoshop galleries: http://bennettua.deviantart.com/gallery/

good to hear. in the meantime, might as well find out if temps were the problem. maybe wiggling the heatsink reseated it or something . ..

Zer0s · 12-November-04, 01:24 PM

still no word on what the temps were?

bennett · 12-November-04, 01:36 PM

I spoke too soon, as I figured I had. It is again shutting off intermitently. I will do my best to install motherboard monitor to check the temps. I swear I heard it laughing at me...

bennett · 12-November-04, 02:30 PM

ok, got it installed. My temps are reading 123 and 75 degrees farenheit. Good/ Bad?

12-November-04, 11:29 AM		#1 (permalink)
bennett Apex Techie Lite	PC won't stay on! My pc won't stay on! It hasn't done anything like this in a long time. I haven't moved it or bumped it. It just shuts of instantly and randomly, whether I'm working on it or not. Why would this happen? What can I do to fix it? My brother is a hardware wiz, but he can't get over here to diagnose. PLEASE HELP! Here is a collage of my modded pc. http://supercarfreak.net/gallery/Pho...ri_case?full=1

12-November-04, 12:35 PM		#13 (permalink)
ZENNZZO Direct Cool Hoe	Link the page you need and I'll get it for ya... Could be as simple as a faulty power switch too. Make sure the power button is of the inermittent type, and is working correctly. It could be a number of things, so you'll have to use the process of elimination. A nice clear pic of the inside of the computer would be excellent. Just use the "additional options" box below the one you reply in. Click on "manage attachments" under the "attach files" tab... another window will pop-up and allow you to browse your files, A pic is worth a thousand words and that'll get us started with some help... Welcome to Pimprig. Attached Thumbnails

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12-November-04, 11:42 AM		#2 (permalink)
Im_gumby Slightly Silly Moderator	Have you verified that the heatsink is still properly attached, air intakes not plugged up with dust bunnies, all power and switch connections are properly seated?

12-November-04, 11:52 AM		#4 (permalink)
turbopsi Supe-Hoe-Charged	Sounds like an overheating problem. Are you sure the heatsink isn't halfway on there?

12-November-04, 11:55 AM		#5 (permalink)
SexyPants 5-Hoe-1 Jeans	Do you know what your temperatures are? If not, install motherbord monitor and tell us what it reads

12-November-04, 12:00 PM		#7 (permalink)
turbopsi Supe-Hoe-Charged	Then it's either your CPU fan is not connected properly to the motherboard, and it shuts off for protection, or the heatsink isn't on properly and it is overheating.

12-November-04, 12:03 PM		#8 (permalink)
Enko Apex Tech God	pop the case open and see if you can wiggle the heatsink.

12-November-04, 01:06 PM		#16 (permalink)
bennett Apex Techie Lite	For reasons beyond natural belief, it's working fine, for now. I'm now one step closer to believing that AI is real, that it comes embedded in every version of Windows, and that my pc was taunting me, laughing its sweet ass off in binary code. If it collapses again, I'll let you know. Until then, thank you all very much for trying to help. I mean it, you have nothing to gain by looking and replying on these help channels other than some self-worth and you do it so unselfishly, I know that sounds "Full House"-ish, but you really do make the days brighter. If you want to see what I use my computer for, check out my photoshop galleries: http://bennettua.deviantart.com/gallery/

12-November-04, 01:24 PM		#18 (permalink)
Zer0s Apex Tech God	still no word on what the temps were?

12-November-04, 01:36 PM		#19 (permalink)
bennett Apex Techie Lite	I spoke too soon, as I figured I had. It is again shutting off intermitently. I will do my best to install motherboard monitor to check the temps. I swear I heard it laughing at me...

12-November-04, 02:30 PM		#20 (permalink)
bennett Apex Techie Lite	ok, got it installed. My temps are reading 123 and 75 degrees farenheit. Good/ Bad?