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Old 10-November-04, 04:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry WTF? New system woes

Okay, Pimps. Who's the genius that can figure this one out. My system freezes in Doom 3 about 5 mins in and is slow as molassas going uphill in th winter in Windows.

Here's the specs:

Mainboard: Chaintech 9CJS (flashed with newest bios)
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz w/HT, 1Mb Cache, 800 MHz FSB
Hard Drive: Samsung 160Gb S-ATA (x2)
Memory: 1 Gb (512x2 matched) Corsair Xtreme Speed Series Xtra Low Latency in Dual Channel
Video Card: ATI X800XT by Sapphire
Sound Card: Soundblaser Audigy 2 ZS
OS: Windows XP Professional SP-2 (up to date as of today)

Windows seems to think I have 2 CPUs and takes it's sweet ass time doing evrything. Games freeze the system. Heat shouldn't be an issue as the case is well ventilated and the CPU is running at 63 under load, within perameters for a Prescott core. I'm pretty frustrated becase I did my research and didn't buy any cheap crap; this should be a kick-ass rig... WTF?
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Old 10-November-04, 04:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are the Intel Chipset, Intel Application Accelerator, & Video card drivers all latest version and installed?

Windows is reporting two CPU's because your CPU has HT enabled, that's fine.
I wouldn't try running anything higher than 1024x768 on high for now...try that first.

I really think it's a heat issue, 63C may be within specification but is, in reality, absolutely horrible.
If it's not the CPU overheating, it's probably the video card or something else, take the case side off and
cool down the room, also consider getting a better heatsink for your prescott. The XP-120 comes to mind.

What is your current case cooling setup? (What fans, how many, what size, direction of flow, etc.)
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Old 10-November-04, 04:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm agreeing with TekX here. Sounds like cooling.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If it helps any I have a 3 ghz prescott here running 64 degrees constant - no problems and its been up for 2 months straight. This is at full load however, if thats your idle temp then thats a bad thing,
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Old 10-November-04, 05:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah it deffinitly sounds like a cooling issue. Did you apply any Artic Silver or any other thermal compound to the cpu heatsink. Damn 63 degrees, I knew prescotts ran hot but didn'y know they ran that hot. I heard the new 1066 fsb 3.46 extreme runs at 66 degrees with a stock HSF. Intel should pull their head out of their arse's and figure out a way to stop this heatwave jeesh.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Check it...

The CPU reads 56 as we speak, according to the Apogee program than came with the MOBO.
I'm running a Samuri Scythe cooler, with an 80mm fan on it. there are three more case fans, all 80mm and case temp is 34. One is top mounted, one is side mounted and one is back mounted, taking hot air right off the cpu cooler. in addition the MOBO has a northbridge fan and the X800XT has its own fan. Nothing is OC'ed although Windows reads my CPU at 3.25.

Yes, I used Artic Silver 5, I even followed the bloody directions.

Also, heat shouldn't have anything to do with the Windows issue, as the system wouldn't really be under load at that point anyhow. One of my buddies out here mentioned he thought it might be related to S-ATA access.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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One of my buddies out here mentioned he thought it might be related to S-ATA access.

This is possible, i've always noticed that when i enable my SATA drives in the bios and reboot my temps are always a 4-5 degrees celsisu higer in the bios, don't ask me why.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Are the Intel Chipset, Intel Application Accelerator, & Video card drivers all latest version and installed?

Windows is reporting two CPU's because your CPU has HT enabled, that's fine.
I wouldn't try running anything higher than 1024x768 on high for now...try that first.

I really think it's a heat issue, 63C may be within specification but is, in reality, absolutely horrible.
If it's not the CPU overheating, it's probably the video card or something else, take the case side off and
cool down the room, also consider getting a better heatsink for your prescott. The XP-120 comes to mind.

What is your current case cooling setup? (What fans, how many, what size, direction of flow, etc.)

Chipset is 875P and all drivers are up to date. Video card drivers are brand new (as is the card). No Idea what an "Application Accelerator" is.

Everything seems to run fine at 1024 x 1280, no difference on any resolution.

Also of note, UT2004 seems to run beautifully.

Antec Fans, 80mm. One mounted topside, center, one mounted right side, center, between cpu and agp, one mounted rear, right next to cpu cooler. 80mm fan on cpu. 2 fans in power supply (thermal take 420w) all fans blowing out, case is made of steel mesh. Case temp is 34, CPU 56 at idle.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
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This is possible, i've always noticed that when i enable my SATA drives in the bios and reboot my temps are always a 4-5 degrees celsisu higer in the bios, don't ask me why.

Actually he suggested that the S-ATA seems to take a moment to think before it does anything; even though data transfer is faster in the long run that small things like opening a window take longer than a comparable IDE. True/False? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?
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Old 10-November-04, 05:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Never heard that one. I run in raid so its faster overall anyway.


I see zenzzo looking at this thread, hopefuly HE can help you out!
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Old 10-November-04, 05:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah it deffinitly sounds like a cooling issue. Did you apply any Artic Silver or any other thermal compound to the cpu heatsink. Damn 63 degrees, I knew prescotts ran hot but didn'y know they ran that hot. I heard the new 1066 fsb 3.46 extreme runs at 66 degrees with a stock HSF. Intel should pull their head out of their arse's and figure out a way to stop this heatwave jeesh.

Yeah, my room is definately warmer with the computer on. Intel kinda sucks, but I say that soley based on my experience with them as an investor. INTC was a crappy buy this year.

It also sounds like a jet engine. I used to have two more fans but pulled them when I realized they wern't really helping anything.

I have considered taking the CPU cooler off to polish the base a bit, buyers on Newegg seemed to think this helped with this cooler. It still had good reviews and fits on my MOBO. Some of the rounder ones most likely will not clear my PSU.

Also, when I hit Ctrl Alt Del and get the system monitor, why is my CPU almost always spiking up to 100%?! What's the point of a 3.2 CPU is everything makes it freak out?
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Old 10-November-04, 05:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=elitelilnoyd]Never heard that one. I run in raid so its faster overall anyway.


I was going to run raid 0 but had to RMA one drive and so set up everything on a single drive. Still debating if it's worth it to reinstall everything...
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Old 10-November-04, 05:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Also, when I hit Ctrl Alt Del and get the system monitor, why is my CPU almost always spiking up to 100%?! What's the point of a 3.2 CPU is everything makes it freak out?

Thats just your systrem idle process every computer does that, not sure why its only when you open the sytem monitor and its on the processes tab. It shouldn't be "freaking out" i'm not exactly sure what the problem is. Let my "think tank" go to work. I will try to help yoyu as much as possible on this one.


Do you have aim or any instant messaging software I can contact you on so we don't have to take up a thread trying to trouble shoot your computer? Just makes it easier.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm currently downloading the shareware version of 3dmark05 so I can get an idea of what's going on. Think this will help narrow things down, or will it just be an interesting excersise?
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Old 10-November-04, 05:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Thats just your systrem idle process every computer does that, not sure why its only when you open the sytem monitor and its on the processes tab. It shouldn't be "freaking out" i'm not exactly sure what the problem is. Let my "think tank" go to work. I will try to help yoyu as much as possible on this one.


Do you have aim or any instant messaging software I can contact you on so we don't have to take up a thread trying to trouble shoot your computer? Just makes it easier.

yeah, i have Yahoo messenger. ID is fatelvis15

Thanks for the help.
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Old 10-November-04, 05:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Thats just your systrem idle process every computer does that, not sure why its only when you open the sytem monitor and its on the processes tab. It shouldn't be "freaking out" i'm not exactly sure what the problem is. Let my "think tank" go to work. I will try to help yoyu as much as possible on this one.


Do you have aim or any instant messaging software I can contact you on so we don't have to take up a thread trying to trouble shoot your computer? Just makes it easier.

Dude, that was me. I just don't type so fast.
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Old 17-November-04, 12:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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This is probably something you're already done, but I would run a few spyware programs and virus detectors. I just fixed my friend's computer who was having the same problems. I installed Spysweeper and AdAware and ran them both. Made a pretty big difference. One detects things that the other does not. Also, his computer was brand new as well.
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Old 17-November-04, 12:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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having all your fans "blowing out" will do absolutely nothing for your cooling, half need to be blowing in, the other half need to be blowing out...right now, all you have is negative pressure, and no control of the air coming in at random places in your case (if any), so basically, pure turbulence...not good at all...

when those intel chips heat up, they slow down to spare themselves, 63C is frickin hot...
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Old 23-November-04, 12:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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any luck yet?
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Old 23-November-04, 12:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I remember helping this guy. Not sure if he got it figured out or not. I'm pretty sure he did. The problem was his board was overclocking the chip when he didnt want it to. I know when I talked to him he couldnt get into the bios to change it because he didnt have a PS2 mouse.
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