planning to do one to raise money for collage and some to chairty.. and i was wondering if you guys can help me plan out..... and how to set up the switches and stuff

Quote: Originally Posted by bmwproboi05 planning to do one to raise money for collage and some to chairty.. and i was wondering if you guys can help me plan out..... and how to set up the switches and stuff

What state?

I already have a ginormous one planned for April here in Florida, on the East Coast.

Stop by if you feel like getting pwn3d

oklahoma city

Hey im in northwest arkansas im not too far away from oklahoma city! im actually going near the end of march to lacledes lan in st.louis as far as the switches what kind of switches are they are they fully managed and what brand are they if there like d-link/netgear thats easy if there cisco you got a whole notha trout on our hands lol?

Well I've seen a lot about going to this LAN party however, nothing about helping him plan it. Which was originally what he asked lol.

Well to help you out a bit, you're going to need to invest a bit to hold a public LAN and pray you're going to make enough to atleast to make back what you've put in from admission prices.

You're going to need to find a place that will hold an decent amount of people. You may be able to find a hall who will do it for cheap or free for charity like a KoC or a church or something. I would ask around to local places see what they say.

Somehow you're going to need to get internet access, unless you don't care about that. However, games need Patching, and not all Steam games support offline mode (or atleast I don't think they do) so thats something you'll have to look into.

As for setting up switches, this is where it gets a bit interesting. You could essentially get away with just piggybacking a bunch of routers together and have one of them act as a DHCP server (this is what gives out IP addresses to the PCs connected to the network.) if you have true switches, this is where it gets complicated, because switches are dumb when it comes to DHCP (or at least the ones I've worked with). So with saying that, you're going to need to put together a DHCP server to hand out IP addresses to the machines at the LAN.

Another optional thing you need to look into is game servers. You don't really need them as people can just host them from their own machines, but atleast have one game server that you can just rotate the games running on it depending on how long the LAN is for.

I'll add to this more if I can think of anything or answer any other questions. but I gotta get back to work

also something to take into consideration that is very very often overlooked.

alot of places cant handle the power req for LANs. if it is only a few PCs 20- or less than i doubt it will be a problem, but when your talking about 200 PCs, alot of places cant handle that straight from wall outlets.

most LANs i have been to charge about $15 to $25 and normally last about 2 days. that basicly covers your seat, and a power outlet and 1 IP addy.

there a multiple ways of creating the network, just like stated above. you technically could do it with 1 router doing DHCP and then run switchs off of that. not the best idea, but can work.

figure out the number of people you want at the LAN, and building accordingly.

you are going to drop some serious cash in this.dont be fooled into thinking that you can do this on the cheap side, and it will work. and to be very honest, you most likely will not make a huge profit, if any at all after all the expenses.

if you host the LAN at a hotel, you might be able to get by using thier internet and a discounted price. if your planning a huge LAN ( 100+) this will be more attractive to the LAN goers as they can stay in the same hotel that are playing at.

equipement costs -
sky is the limit here. you will need some type of server. if you ar every experienced with computers, this will greatly benefit you. you could setup a DHCP server with a very cheap PC.
as for a game server.... $$$$$ some LANs i have been too offered people free admission if they brought thier own servers to host games. so that might be a alternative option.

cost of renting the space. cost of renting tables and chairs.


plus i dont know if you need any permits or anything special. and i know i am missing some additional costs.

my best advice, host a small LAN of 10 to 20 people tops to get the feel of it. then decide from there, but again, dont fall for the impression that a LAN is a to make a quick profit.

yeah i thought about doing a small one at first buh my frens mhosted ones for 15 people and said that jus do it big. im talking to my church about it buh their unsure about it......MY main prob is i dont know whos all coming me and my frens and their frends prob 20 their... or more
i kno its a long plan ahead casue its planf or the summer.. buh i found out nvidda can sponcer these type of event if big enuf and how u can sponcer them.. so i was wondering if i can get you guys to come the week of the thing to help mayb mayb 2 or 3 to step up. casue i suck when it coems the server settings i really do...Church has chairs small tables that i think will only work if you set laptops on them or u space everything out and look to a side for monitor.... the cloeste thing we held their was a small concert.

*shakes head*
I love the public education system.

To be honest with you, I think this is out of your experiance range, a bit over your head. Unless you know what you are doing, and have a bit of experiance with networking, you probably shouldn't be the one to host such an event. The fact that you needed to ask about how to set up the network is evidence enough. What would you do if there were a problem? Post here?

If you still want to do this, I suppose you could find a networking professional and ask him for his time and expertise in the matter. After all, you did say it was for chairty.

Networking professional? I think an English teacher would be more in order. If the people who are organizing the LAN party cannot spell simple words correctly and use proper punctuation, how are they supposed to be taken seriously? If I were someone interested in joining in a large frag fest, I would read the posts above and back off since it is obviously being hosted by third graders. If they aren't third graders then I would assume they are "special" people who are only allowed to use spoons when they eat. The language used on a couple of the posts above show the lowest level of intelligence I've seen on this site since around 2005. Congratulations.

Good luck with the party, I would make sure there is a large supply of chocolate milk available.

Quote: Originally Posted by BigAkita Networking professional? I think an English teacher would be more in order. If the people who are organizing the LAN party cannot spell simple words correctly and use proper punctuation, how are they supposed to be taken seriously? If I were someone interested in joining in a large frag fest, I would read the posts above and back off since it is obviously being hosted by third graders. If they aren't third graders then I would assume they are "special" people who are only allowed to use spoons when they eat. The language used on a couple of the posts above show the lowest level of intelligence I've seen on this site since around 2005. Congratulations. Good luck with the party, I would make sure there is a large supply of chocolate milk available.

Don't forget the Pop-Tarts...

Before we get all the "WHY IS EVERYBODY PICKING ON ME/HIM" waterworks, a few words from an up-and-coming grumpy old fart... Self-admitted one, at that...

I saw this thread last night, and while my first instinct was to reply with a scathing indictment of the public education system, the thread-starter's parents (and their lack of interest in his education), and his apparent lack of interest in being taken seriously by effectively using grammar, punctuation, and general writing skills of the sort that perhaps USED to be REQUIRED of applicants to an institute of higher learning such as a collEge, I decided to spare him the embarrassment and vent my frustrations elsewhere... Where it became obvious that I am not alone in my sentiments, as evidenced by some of the posts previous to this one...

With that said, and aside from what has already been discussed, let's look at something here...
A "chairty collage" LAN...

I'm going out on a limb and guess that the main incentive for participating is to win a collage of chair pictures... Would those be antique chairs, say, Louis XIV, for example? Perhaps, given the "modern linguistics" of your initial and subsequent posts, the pictures will be of more modern furniture and living room / dining room accoutrements...

Then again, I don't know how you'd be able to keep the collage together, seeing as how you've obviously been eating the paste... Best break out the bib, and/or switch to ketchup/catsup and tater tots, there, Donny-boy...

By the way, and just for shiites and giggles, would you care to share the unedited version of your "collage entrunce applacashun essey" with us? Also, I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering what school has "accepted" you, I only ask so I know never to send my child anywhere near it when she starts considering where she would like to attend COLLEGE.

The thing i do not really understand is the server part. If you put all the games on their for people to "share" correct? Wouldn't that be illeage to do in the begging. Their for if you do share the games how would people play them if they don't have the game to begging with. Don't you need to have the cd, or is it just bring one copy of the game that is the original one, and on the server you have the patches?

I'm only in high school at the moment, and the reason why i miss spell and thigns along that line is. I don't really take my time too go over these things. Nor do I really care what people say as well.

Quote: Originally Posted by bmwproboi05 The thing i do not really understand is the server part. If you put all the games on their for people to "share" correct? Wouldn't that be illeage to do in the begging. Their for if you do share the games how would people play them if they don't have the game to begging with. Don't you need to have the cd, or is it just bring one copy of the game that is the original one, and on the server you have the patches? I'm only in high school at the moment, and the reason why i miss spell and thigns along that line is. I don't really take my time too go over these things. Nor do I really care what people say as well.

Funnily enough I too am in high school. Don't see any problems with my spelling now do you?

Stop being a lazy ass and learn to write properly or you're not going to get any help at all. After all how the hell can people help you if they can't understand what you write?

Quote: Originally Posted by bmwproboi05 I'm only in high school at the moment, and the reason why i miss spell and thigns along that line is. I don't really take my time too go over these things. Nor do I really care what people say as well.

So sad, really... So young, so much potential, yet saddled with the burden of illiteracy AND complacency... I hope that you are actually able to find a job that does not require you to have any sort of command of the English language, so that you may at least survive... Oh, and you may want to go ahead and think about NOT contaminating the gene pool with your willful ignorance...

Quote: Originally Posted by bmwproboi05 Wouldn't that be illeage to do in the begging. Their for if you do share the games how would people play them if they don't have the game to begging with.

I think begging is illegal in most areas. Certainly you can get arrested for vagrancy. Don't do it man - begging for games is a bad idea. Most people don't carry around copies of Call of Duty 4 in their back pockets, so begging for cash is much easier. Plus, you can't buy cheap wine or cigarettes with PC games.

Quote: Originally Posted by bmwproboi05 The thing i do not really understand is the server part. If you put all the games on their for people to "share" correct? Wouldn't that be illeage to do in the begging. Their for if you do share the games how would people play them if they don't have the game to begging with. Don't you need to have the cd, or is it just bring one copy of the game that is the original one, and on the server you have the patches? I'm only in high school at the moment, and the reason why i miss spell and thigns along that line is. I don't really take my time too go over these things. Nor do I really care what people say as well.

I would maybe understand your last statement if you hadn't used the word "their" in the improper form multiple times, ended a sentence with is and then tried to pass it off that you're only in high school.

But I'll still help you out, because I'm a nice guy. Yes, it would be illegal to share games on a server, but thats not the point of the server. The point behind having a server it to have a host server so your players can connect to a central game server and play together.

Well i don't know about all of you people but its pretty easy to read in between the lines instead of acting like a complete ass to someone that is trying to understand something, and no one is perfect everyone screws up here and there some people just have different struggles in life even if its laziness. But anyways its really simple to setup the servers considering most games come with a dedicated server pack or you can download something along the lines from there website if its steam games its really simple anything else i would look to the games website, Also if your worried about copyright infringement if your sharing games send out a e-mail or something to that sort to decide on games that people already own that are going to attend then settle on 3-4 main games for tournament play or something like that for the most part people will bring games that they will play by themselves or with others that have the same game anyways so its not that bad. As far as the networking goes its really simple you don't need a router or a dhcp server switchs are actually considered smart devices and routers are actually considered dumb devices and that comes straight from cisco btw! but if you just simply get cheap in-expensive work group switchs from bestbuy they all have a uplink port all you have to do is connect 1 port from a switch into the uplink of another switch the switchs will communicated and do all the work for you its that simple.

Quote: Well i don't know about all of you people but its pretty easy to read in between the lines instead of acting like a complete ass to someone that is trying to understand something, and no one is perfect everyone screws up here and there some people just have different struggles in life even if its laziness.

Now as most here may know , I'm not one to go jumping all over someone for spelling and whatnot, I myself dont really spell all that well and dont always use punctuation in the right spots. I must say however i do at least TRY and get my point across and reread what i've typed to fix any mistakes I can find.

Your statment that i quoted however is false and somewhat shocking. NOBODY but NOBODY struggles with being lazy, its a choice one makes and shows that they just dont give a damn, and well, if they dont give a damn why should anyone else?

If he says he's too lazy to at least try and spell correctly , then running/heading up a LAN party , in my opinoin, is way over his head.

As for the whole "being an ass" comment, if I/we/people get on someone about thier spelling, maybe just maybe they will start to care a bit and start trying a bit more to better thier writing skills.

Thats not true a lot of people actually struggle with what people call being lazy but it can be other things and conditions **** like add you dont have to be hyper active to have add there are alot of people that just have the attention deficit which is a chemical imbalance that can also make one feel lazy do too always zoneing out having a bad memory there are alot of other reasons too but the big point is look at how much time was actually wasted pointing out someones mistake's that are not even relevant to the issue that was brought up instead of just trying to help someone solve a problem my personal opinion if you cant read in between the lines and get over the fact that someone may have grammer problems or spelling problems dont bother helping them because your going to waste everyones time starting a argument there is really no reason for it.