Hard drive problem on bootup (Slave)

BZA · 13-December-03, 09:33 AM

My office computer lady couldnt figure this out so she sent the drive home with me for the weekend.

When I boot up, the drive shows up in the BIOS as a slave, but in windows 2k it doesnt show up in my computer. Nor does it show up in admin-tools under computer manager, where I would normally assign it a letter so it could be accessed.

So I bring it home to my XP Pro system and plug it in.

Again, it shows up in Post, there it is, WD 77073040 (or whatever) and then the Windows XP Pro splash screen comes up and the computer never boots.

I cant figure it out.

Any help?

dblshot · 13-December-03, 10:10 AM

BZA,
Sounds like this could be a bad engine, do you have an external enclosure to put the drive in? If so try that, after about 15 minutes windows detected a drive that was doing the same thing with me.
Does the hard drive feel like it is spinning up when you turn the system on?

BZA · 13-December-03, 10:13 AM

I dont have an external enclosure. Im not exactly sure I know what you mean by that. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

Yeah, it feels like its spinning. Should I just let it sit on the XP Boot screen for an hour and see if it works?

dblshot · 13-December-03, 11:30 AM

Is windows trying to install it, or just sitting there? A USB or fire wire enclosure so you can put the drive in it and hook it up that was the only way I was able to get windows to see it.

NoSlak · 13-December-03, 11:41 AM

Well if anything this thread is gunna go make me spend more money today!!!!!, didnt even know these things existed just bot a dvd burner and wishe I was able to swap it in diff comps.

THX dblshot, and BZA wtf u been ???

dblshot · 13-December-03, 11:45 AM

NoSlak,
I could not make it without mine, one of the best purchases I have made.

BZA · 13-December-03, 11:47 AM

how would I know if windows is trying to install it? The little blue bar that goes back and forth while XP is loading up is moving....it just feels like it will never stop.

And when the HDD is moving, it kinda moves in a pattern. like. bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click, bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click, bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click, bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click

And ive been around. just super busy at work, no time for computer stuff. just been slaving away. Its a busy time of year in the Insurance business.

All I want for Christmas is an ATI 9800 Pro 128. If you were lookin for gift ideas.

ANd hey, when did Mrs. Claus get a boob job and a bikini wax?

BZA · 13-December-03, 11:51 AM

wow, and here is something ELSE strange, I have the side off my computer and when i roll my mouse wheel and the page scrolls, i hear a sort of high pitch twing sound com from inside my machine. Its real quiet, but noticable with the side off.

WTF is that?!

dblshot · 13-December-03, 11:54 AM

On XP it will do the new hardware found in the system tray, if the click is real loud and keeps clicking you could have the Ã‚â€œclick of deathÃ‚â€ where the read head just jumps back and forth. If that is the case you have a paper weight.

dblshot · 13-December-03, 12:00 PM

UH

This only happens when you scroll?

BZA · 13-December-03, 12:22 PM

ok, the computer booted after 10-20 minutes at the XP Loading screen and the HDD showed up as new in the system tray. It doesnt appear in "My Comp" so im loading the disk manager to try and add it. It is loadind and loading and clicking and humming.

Will report back

BZA · 13-December-03, 12:26 PM

Hmm, update. Disk Managment inside Admin Tools does NOT reveal the presence of the disk drive. Yet it is in the device manager. Strange, very strange.

dblshot · 13-December-03, 12:55 PM

Yea that's the same thing that happened with my HDD that had a bad engine. If you let it sit it might show up in My computer.

m3_tw0 · 13-December-03, 01:07 PM

You can try doing a repair with the windows disk..my xp wouldnt boot it just sat there because it was gettign stuck on one file..also reformatting may fix it..how old is the hd and wut kind is it?

BZA · 13-December-03, 02:03 PM

its almost brand new WD 40 gig. My office got it to store emails on and it is giving us trouble. The drive was ok when it had the email data stored on it, we are just having trouble getting it all off.
lol

BZA · 13-December-03, 02:04 PM

and what u mean by "bad engine"? U mean bad motor that makes the disk spin?

Dimazz · 13-December-03, 02:15 PM

if its new then it has a warrenty so just get a new one. or do you need the stuff off of it?

and y ai think thats what he means is the motor is bad.

dblshot · 13-December-03, 02:38 PM

Yes the motor that makes the disk spin.

BZA · 13-December-03, 02:47 PM

yeah, it very well could be bad. I dont understand why it shows up in Post and in Device manager if it cant read..

And it worked a week ago when all the data (32 out of 40 gigs) was dumped on it. Now that we need the data OFF of it, it goes bad? That SUCKS!

NoSlak · 13-December-03, 02:55 PM

Ok Iread in an article in MAx PC a while back that a last dith effort to retrieve at least some file on an HDD right before or after it has died was to put it in plastic and stick it in the freezer for a while dunno what it does to the motor but it supposed to make it work again for a lil while anyway.

13-December-03, 09:33 AM		#1 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	Hard drive problem on bootup (Slave) My office computer lady couldnt figure this out so she sent the drive home with me for the weekend. When I boot up, the drive shows up in the BIOS as a slave, but in windows 2k it doesnt show up in my computer. Nor does it show up in admin-tools under computer manager, where I would normally assign it a letter so it could be accessed. So I bring it home to my XP Pro system and plug it in. Again, it shows up in Post, there it is, WD 77073040 (or whatever) and then the Windows XP Pro splash screen comes up and the computer never boots. I cant figure it out. Any help?

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13-December-03, 10:10 AM		#2 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	BZA, Sounds like this could be a bad engine, do you have an external enclosure to put the drive in? If so try that, after about 15 minutes windows detected a drive that was doing the same thing with me. Does the hard drive feel like it is spinning up when you turn the system on?

13-December-03, 10:13 AM		#3 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	I dont have an external enclosure. Im not exactly sure I know what you mean by that. Thanks for the suggestion tho. Yeah, it feels like its spinning. Should I just let it sit on the XP Boot screen for an hour and see if it works?

13-December-03, 11:30 AM		#4 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	Is windows trying to install it, or just sitting there? A USB or fire wire enclosure so you can put the drive in it and hook it up that was the only way I was able to get windows to see it.

13-December-03, 11:41 AM		#5 (permalink)
NoSlak Gridiron	Well if anything this thread is gunna go make me spend more money today!!!!!, didnt even know these things existed just bot a dvd burner and wishe I was able to swap it in diff comps. THX dblshot, and BZA wtf u been ???

13-December-03, 11:45 AM		#6 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	NoSlak, I could not make it without mine, one of the best purchases I have made.

13-December-03, 11:47 AM		#7 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	how would I know if windows is trying to install it? The little blue bar that goes back and forth while XP is loading up is moving....it just feels like it will never stop. And when the HDD is moving, it kinda moves in a pattern. like. bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click, bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click, bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click, bzz bzz bzzzzz bzz click And ive been around. just super busy at work, no time for computer stuff. just been slaving away. Its a busy time of year in the Insurance business. All I want for Christmas is an ATI 9800 Pro 128. If you were lookin for gift ideas. ANd hey, when did Mrs. Claus get a boob job and a bikini wax?

13-December-03, 11:51 AM		#8 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	wow, and here is something ELSE strange, I have the side off my computer and when i roll my mouse wheel and the page scrolls, i hear a sort of high pitch twing sound com from inside my machine. Its real quiet, but noticable with the side off. WTF is that?!

13-December-03, 11:54 AM		#9 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	On XP it will do the new hardware found in the system tray, if the click is real loud and keeps clicking you could have the Ã‚â€œclick of deathÃ‚â€ where the read head just jumps back and forth. If that is the case you have a paper weight.

13-December-03, 12:00 PM		#10 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	UH This only happens when you scroll?

13-December-03, 12:22 PM		#11 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	ok, the computer booted after 10-20 minutes at the XP Loading screen and the HDD showed up as new in the system tray. It doesnt appear in "My Comp" so im loading the disk manager to try and add it. It is loadind and loading and clicking and humming. Will report back

13-December-03, 12:26 PM		#12 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	Hmm, update. Disk Managment inside Admin Tools does NOT reveal the presence of the disk drive. Yet it is in the device manager. Strange, very strange.

13-December-03, 12:55 PM		#13 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	Yea that's the same thing that happened with my HDD that had a bad engine. If you let it sit it might show up in My computer.

13-December-03, 01:07 PM		#14 (permalink)
m3_tw0 Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	You can try doing a repair with the windows disk..my xp wouldnt boot it just sat there because it was gettign stuck on one file..also reformatting may fix it..how old is the hd and wut kind is it?

13-December-03, 02:03 PM		#15 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	its almost brand new WD 40 gig. My office got it to store emails on and it is giving us trouble. The drive was ok when it had the email data stored on it, we are just having trouble getting it all off. lol

13-December-03, 02:04 PM		#16 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	and what u mean by "bad engine"? U mean bad motor that makes the disk spin?

13-December-03, 02:15 PM		#17 (permalink)
Dimazz Sk8-Hoe-r	if its new then it has a warrenty so just get a new one. or do you need the stuff off of it? and y ai think thats what he means is the motor is bad.

13-December-03, 02:38 PM		#18 (permalink)
dblshot Apex Techie Lite	Yes the motor that makes the disk spin.

13-December-03, 02:47 PM		#19 (permalink)
BZA Semin-Hoe-Le Supp-Hoe-Ter	yeah, it very well could be bad. I dont understand why it shows up in Post and in Device manager if it cant read.. And it worked a week ago when all the data (32 out of 40 gigs) was dumped on it. Now that we need the data OFF of it, it goes bad? That SUCKS!

13-December-03, 02:55 PM		#20 (permalink)
NoSlak Gridiron	Ok Iread in an article in MAx PC a while back that a last dith effort to retrieve at least some file on an HDD right before or after it has died was to put it in plastic and stick it in the freezer for a while dunno what it does to the motor but it supposed to make it work again for a lil while anyway.