Seems to be a pretty OS friendly Linux. Anyone have any quibble/blurb to put to this Distro?

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

Thanks peeps,
Nev.

Yea I wanted 1 CD and never got it ..Im re ording. Ful3man showed this link in a linux thread a while back.

I used Ubuntu for a while. It installs easily, runs well, is pretty stable etc.

The problem is the apt-get system is a little too easy, so I didn't feel like I was really picking up how linux works. I'm running Suse right now and I'm really enjoying it. I know how to install and run things!

I must say that knoppix is pretty damn easy. Using the live cd you can mess around with it. Knoppix found both of my wireless cards, SATA hard drive, and other random devices I had plugged in. You should check out Knoppix too.

i agree, apt-get is like.... easier than windows...you try to like run/install something and its like "you need stupid_program_5" so you just do like apt get stupid_program_5 and its like... oh.... that was.... hard?

i used to use slackware, and i actually at one point considered myself somewhat "knowledabgagable" with linux, but Fedora made me dumb again.

Quote: Originally Posted by Nerdz Yea I wanted 1 CD and never got it ..Im re ording. Ful3man showed this link in a linux thread a while back.

i ordered 10 about a month ago and got them 2 days ago, so if any of you absolutely -NEED- it, i have 8 spare copies im not hanging onto, just send me a postcard or something and ill send you a legit copy...

i can vouche for its ease of use too, however, i had some issues with getting resolutions over 1024x768 working with my 9700 pro, so i went back to windows...

Ubuntu 5.04 is fast and stable. If you prefer KDE, try Kubuntu. Like Fu3lman, I also have a few of those distro CDs lying around. Id be happy to give a few of them away.

The latest release, 5.10, is a little buggy (its only 2 weeks old), but Ive been running the 5.04 release for about 6 months now without a problem. Ubuntu has excellent hardware support and has regular updates.

Is Apt-get easy? Yes. Is this a bad thing? No. Not to mention, its not any "easier" than any other distros means of obtaining packages. Especially SuSe, sexy-pants. I dont even know why Im mentioning this at all, but Id say that at least 75% of the packages on my machine were downloaded and compiled myself. I dont even hardly use Apt-get(or Synaptic) to get hardly anything at all. Its all a matter of taste. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Apt-get being easy. You can allways make it hard if you really want to.

I would recommend this distro for the newbie and the seasoned vet as well. If for nothing else, get it for the hardware support. Ive tried literally every distro out there and this is the only one that has fully recognized ALL of my hardware.

FYI- If you decide to go with the latest release, I highly recommend downloading and compiling gcc3.4 if you use a Nvidia card. Although not necessary, it will save you some headaches down the road.

I used Apt-get a lot back in the day. I certainly wouldn't consider it a flaw. A lot of people set up apt-get in Suse, but I installed linux to learn my way around it, and I didn't feel like it was happening in Ubuntu. If I had to set up a linux box for somebody else though, I'd go straight for Ubuntu, no question.

Quote: Originally Posted by _Sexy_Pants_ I used Apt-get a lot back in the day. I certainly wouldn't consider it a flaw. A lot of people set up apt-get in Suse, but I installed linux to learn my way around it, and I didn't feel like it was happening in Ubuntu. If I had to set up a linux box for somebody else though, I'd go straight for Ubuntu, no question.

If you really want to learn the inner-workings of linux, you should do a Gentoo install. Thats how I learned. There is no better way to learn linux, IMO. I wouldnt recommend doing anything less than a stage 3 install for your first time, though. Oh, and be warned...it takes quite a bit of patience.

The cool thing about Gentoo is that its fully customizable. No preconfigured kernel or packages, its entirely up to you. Ubuntu is based on Debian(my fav ), so thats probably part of the reason Im so partial to it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosabe79 If you really want to learn the inner-workings of linux, you should do a Gentoo install. Thats how I learned. There is no better way to learn linux, IMO. I wouldnt recommend doing anything less than a stage 3 install for your first time, though. Oh, and be warned...it takes quite a bit of patience. The cool thing about Gentoo is that its fully customizable. No preconfigured kernel or packages, its entirely up to you. Ubuntu is based on Debian(my fav ), so thats probably part of the reason Im so partial to it.

Knoppix is based on Debian, not Gentoo. In fact Ubuntu started as Gnoppix the Gnome Knoppix, (http://www.gnoppix.org/) now Gnoppix is based on Ubuntu.

IMHO the best way to "learn" linux would be Linux From Scratch (LFS) very similar to Gentoo stage 1 install, but even more indepth in the config files.

I used Ubuntu abit before I went back to Windows, I was so desperate for games support that I had to go back. I also had problems configuring my soundcard (onboard). Once I make myself a server box, however, good ol' Hoary Hedgehog will be on there. I found apt-get useful for a noob like me, and the tech support r0xors. the IRC channel was quick to respond to any question I had. If you want a copy, I myself have 4 to give out, just give me postage.

Quote: Originally Posted by boardboyd Knoppix is based on Debian, not Gentoo. In fact Ubuntu started as Gnoppix the Gnome Knoppix, (http://www.gnoppix.org/) now Gnoppix is based on Ubuntu. IMHO the best way to "learn" linux would be Linux From Scratch (LFS) very similar to Gentoo stage 1 install, but even more indepth in the config files.

Yes, I fixed that before you replied, lol.

Ive also heard that LFS is a good distro to learn on...Does it give you the options to do a later stage of the install? Im asking because some people very new to linux might find a Stage 1 install a little too much at first. Agreed starting completely from scratch is the best way to learn, but some people havent even seen a config file before...let alone modified one.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosabe79 Yes, I fixed that before you replied, lol. Ive also heard that LFS is a good distro to learn on...Does it give you the options to do a later stage of the install? Im asking because some people very new to linux might find a Stage 1 install a little too much at first. Agreed starting completely from scratch is the best way to learn, but some people havent even seen a config file before...let alone modified one.

As far as I know LFS doesn't have a "Stage 3" install. I'm a Gentoo user myself, and have only done a LFS install once to see if I could actually do it.

I have 1500 Ubuntu cd's!! You want one send me shipping and its yours! They come with a bootable cd and a os cd. I need to get rid of them there taking up to much damn space!!!

Yea its been a month, I got my cd, and all I have to say is, Ubuntu is OK. It doesnt come with alot for its size (on the live CDanyway). If I were to go live CD Id chose Knoppix (it has ALOT of crap)

Gentoo teaches you linux in the beginning but rapidly begins teaching you Gentoo but it's still a pretty decent distro. My three favorites in order are Slackware(DUH), Arch Linux, and Debian. I'm also rather partial to the BSD's.

If you want to use KDE on Ubuntu you can still do it without switching to Kubuntu. Just install KDE and edit the .xinitrc file in your home directory.

There's nothing wrong with a package management system either. No one likes spending time in dependency hell. It's something Slackware actually lacked for quite a while and what made me use Debian and Arch. Now Slack has swaret and slapt-get(unabashedly stole from Debian ) Just make sure you add the linuxpackages.net repository. I can do an LFS install in my sleep but I still like just typing swaret --install vlc and having things handled.

Some things you can do to really learn linux are:

study what config files do what

learn to compile your kernel without anything other than make menuconfig, make bzImage modules modules_install and the copying and naming the right files.

apply a couple of non-radical kernel patches (bootsplash is popular, i really like it myself)

Gentoo will actually teach you quite a bit about editing config files.

Check out tuxmagazine.com

read man pages


I hope some of this is at least a little helpful. Linux and Unix are all I use at home now so go ahead and PM me if you need help, I work a lot but I'll get back to you as quick as I can.