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Old 21-January-07, 08:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Circuit help - momentary ---> SPST

I had it saved somewhere - but I can't seem to find it. To keep my next case looking uniform I was planning on using vandal switches for everything. So basic question - anyone know a guide to making the circuit to use a momentary for turning on/off things such as CCFL's? I can't seem to remember the work around to using them without that dreaded issue of pushing the button and it having a 50% chance of turning itself back on/off.

Bonus points if can find one or tell me how to use a momentary to clear CMOS. Where when depressed it'll open a normally closed leg and close a open.
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Old 21-January-07, 08:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Easy straightforward way is to use a relay energized by the switch:

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Old 21-January-07, 09:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Easy straightforward way is to use a relay energized by the switch:

AutoSpeed - Using Relays

I was thinking flip-flop circuits. Only way I know to use relays for what I'm talking about is a min. of 3 relays which gets rather large when I'm needing 5 of these puppies to function as SPST. 15 relays in a SFF is a bitch much.

ADD: Found the circuit after digging through bit-tech. If anyone is wondering...
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Old 21-January-07, 09:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That should work, that MOSFET can take 16 amps.

Forgot you had a SFF case. However, ther are some mighty tiny relays out these days.
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Old 21-January-07, 10:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you really want to get small and cut your component count down then one way to do what you want would be by using a PIC or some other microcontroller...

something from the 16F*** family would be ideal.

All it would take would be a few lines of C code and some free software and job done.

connect the switches to some input pins, have the output pins connected to the 'Gate' leg of a transistor and job done. Bit more complex i suppose but far more elegant... not to mention the cool stuff you could then get it to do! lol


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Old 23-January-07, 05:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've having one helluva time trying to find a security (looks like a anti-vandal, just can't take as much force) switch that's momentary combined NO/NC from anyone that doesn't have 500 dollar min orders. Anyone know of a supplier I should check out? I'm basicly tryin' to keep all my switches the same low profile style.

I found one place so far, but they want 90 dollars for it.... I'm hoping there's something out there in the sub-40 range.

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Old 23-January-07, 05:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I've having one helluva time trying to find a security (looks like a anti-vandal, just can't take massive electric charges) switch that's momentary combined NO/NC from anyone that doesn't have 500 dollar min orders. Anyone know of a supplier I should check out? I'm basicly tryin' to keep all my switches the same low profile style.

I found one place so far, but they want 90 dollars for it.... I'm hoping there's something out there in the sub-40 range.

PM me with the Spec's of the Item you are looking for and I will talk to me Vendors that I deal with at my work.
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Old 23-January-07, 06:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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PM me with the Spec's of the Item you are looking for and I will talk to me Vendors that I deal with at my work.

Basicly I'm looking for a 18-22mm low profile momentary that has a normal-open and normal-close with a common terminal on back. It's kinda unnerving when you find yourself looking for parts they don't really exist in the normal channels for your PC.
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Old 23-January-07, 06:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Basicly I'm looking for a 18-22mm low profile momentary that has a normal-open and normal-close with a common terminal on back. It's kinda unnerving when you find yourself looking for parts they don't really exist in the normal channels for your PC.

You have a Pic of a sample from the Internet.
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Old 23-January-07, 06:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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You have a Pic of a sample from the Internet.

http://www.action-electronics.com/pdf/antivandal.pdf

S82 or S84

ADD: Found a S84 style for 22 dollars at Galco. w00t!

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Old 23-January-07, 06:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you have not ordered yet, take a look at these:

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http://www.apem.com/pdf/AV-B.pdf

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Old 23-January-07, 09:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You need a simple latching circuit.
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Old 23-January-07, 09:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You need a simple latching circuit.

Already said I'm going to be doing a flip-flop.....
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