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Old 29-September-04, 06:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi a while ago at a lan party i overherd a comversation and one of then sead that he over cloked hees harddrives rpm.... i just wanna know if its posible 2 oc a harddrive and if so how 2 do it?
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Old 29-September-04, 06:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No, its not possible. He was focking with somebody or talking out his azz - one of the two.
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Old 29-September-04, 06:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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hi a while ago at a lan party i overherd a comversation and one of then sead that he over cloked hees harddrives rpm.... i just wanna know if its posible 2 oc a harddrive and if so how 2 do it?

If a hard drive is designed to run at 7200RPM, there is now way I know of to make it run 10,00RPM

There are ways to have increase performance of hard drives, like having 2 equal sized hard drives in a RAID 0 configuration, or SATA is faster than IDE, etc..

You can do a fresh install of windows, update drivers, defrag, and also Bios updates if needed..that is usually a noticeable increase if your system is running laggy, or performing lower than you thought it should.
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Old 29-September-04, 04:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you COULD put a different motor in it... but that wouldnt really be modding, and it would kill the drive...
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Old 29-September-04, 04:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah there were pulling there leg lol.
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Old 29-September-04, 04:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yep i gues he was just trying 2 sound inportant, looked like a dork 2 lol but i thourght what the h... might aswhell ask if it was posible by the way i still cant finde the fsb in my bios menu... gatta get a new m-board i am thinking asus or gigabyte that u guys think would be a good one?
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Old 29-September-04, 04:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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. gatta get a new m-board i am thinking asus or gigabyte that u guys think would be a good one?

Most people say ABIT NF-7 (Or AN-7) if you are on a budget, the Shuttle AN35N Ultra is a great board...I have used both of the these boards and love them

I can't find your model number board anywhere, can u double check?

Try CPUZ and check the motherboard tab for info

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php#download
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Old 29-September-04, 05:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Most people say ABIT NF-7 (Or AN-7) if you are on a budget, the Shuttle AN35N Ultra is a great board...I have used both of the these boards and love them

I can't find your model number board anywhere, can u double check?

Try CPUZ and check the motherboard tab for info

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php#download

heres the full info on my motherboard:
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in mother board maneger i had 2 set it 2 an ms-6590 and it worlks

Link 2 screenie of cpuz m-bord sektion:
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/8017/mboard1.jpg

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Old 29-September-04, 05:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ATA-100 to ATA-133 anyone?
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Old 30-September-04, 09:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I enjoy my NF7-S. I'm getting a second one because I've enjoyed that much.
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Old 30-September-04, 10:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i might get one of those then.. hows its OC potential?

Ps. guys read my post in the graphiks/media sektion and show u opinion on the subjekt there
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Old 30-September-04, 01:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i might get one of those then.. hows its OC potential?

Ps. guys read my post in the graphiks/media sektion and show u opinion on the subjekt there

Zenn went to 3ghz on one, and Tekxoid did a few volts mods and runs at 250+FSB

It is the OC'ers board of choice!!!
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Old 30-September-04, 02:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Zenn went to 3ghz on one, and Tekxoid did a few volts mods and runs at 250+FSB

It is the OC'ers board of choice!!!

270MHz FSB stable @ 2vCore with BlackMantaray D26.

If I could change one stock option on the board, it would be a higher selectable Chipset voltage in BIOS.
My 8RDA3+ goes up to 2.0v chipset. The NF7-S is otherwise a perfect board. I don't fancy the AN7 though.
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Old 30-September-04, 08:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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ATA-100 to ATA-133 anyone?

With the exception of any applications in which nearly all of the data fetched from the drives is sequential AND in which the drives have a large cache, there usually isn't any tangible performance gain. The sustained read/write rates of most ATA-133 drives are the same as their ATA-100 counterparts, often due to each having almost identical drive control electronics, however ATA-133 drives do sometimes have improved burst transfer rates. If it came down to having to choose between the two, I wouldn't use ATA-100 vs. ATA-133 as a major deciding factor. I avoid using MTBF as a factor too, as almost all drives on the market claim 1,000,000 hours or more anyhow. I'd make the choice based upon lifetime start/stop cycles and shock resistance.


If you're referring to converting an ATA-100 to an ATA-133, it's concievably possible; I just wouldn't want to have to look for that hard drive firmware/control board/way to flash the firmware or whatever else would wind up becoming involved in the process.
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Old 30-September-04, 08:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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With the exception of any applications in which nearly all of the data fetched from the drives is sequential AND in which the drives have a large cache, there usually isn't any tangible performance gain. The sustained read/write rates of most ATA-133 drives are the same as their ATA-100 counterparts, often due to each having almost identical drive control electronics, however ATA-133 drives do sometimes have improved burst transfer rates. If it came down to having to choose between the two, I wouldn't use ATA-100 vs. ATA-133 as a major deciding factor. I avoid using MTBF as a factor too, as almost all drives on the market claim 1,000,000 hours or more anyhow. I'd make the choice based upon lifetime start/stop cycles and shock resistance.

I know that, i was just hypothesizing a possible softmod from ATA-100 to ATA-133 since 133 is a standard propriotary to maxtor. There is little performance gain, but thats the only thing that comes to mind about overclocking a hard drive.
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Old 30-September-04, 08:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I know that, i was just hypothesizing a possible softmod from ATA-100 to ATA-133 since 133 is a standard propriotary to maxtor. There is little performance gain, but thats the only thing that comes to mind about overclocking a hard drive.

It'd sure be interesting to see if anybody feels inclined to attempt to reflash the hard drive's firmware to do just that.
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Old 30-September-04, 08:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It'd sure be interesting to see if anybody feels inclined to attempt to reflash the hard drive's firmware to do just that.

You'd need a controler card though, most mobo manufactueres didn't feel like shelling out to maxtor to use 133 since theres little gain. I've only ever had one 133 drive, bought it retail and it came with the card, but i'd be curious if it were possible with non-maxtor drives.
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Old 30-September-04, 09:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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This actually could be possible. You could build an external driver to drive the 3-phase motor at higher speeds. Im sure they will run faster, for how long is the question. You would also need to build a circuit that would spin the disk up/down at the controllers request.

This is also assuming that the firmware and drive electronics arent locked at a particular data rate at the specific RPM it is designed for.

Most DC brushless 3-phase motors can hit well above 10,000 RPM I bet you could get a HDD motor up to 30,000 RPM

BUT

This would also reduce the capacity of the disk significantly as it would leave longer "stripes" of data on the disk, taking up more physical space per bit.. That is why the Raptors are only available in 36 and 74GB. The write pulses to the write heads would have to be shortened a lot to get the same capacity. Then that brings up more issues.

This is worth a shot. I got an old 40GB 5400 RPM drive I may just try it on, just for the WOW factor of actually OCing an HDD. It will definitely need a low level format beforehand. Then OC it and install Windows with in its OC state.

Damn, think of the OC communities response to this if we can pull it off.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it wouldnt actually increase data transfer speeds unless you did actually decrease the read/write pulses width. It would just make the disk spin faster. Thats it, as the data read/write pulses will be the same regardless.

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Old 30-September-04, 09:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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270MHz FSB stable @ 2vCore with BlackMantaray D26.

If I could change one stock option on the board, it would be a higher selectable Chipset voltage in BIOS.
My 8RDA3+ goes up to 2.0v chipset. The NF7-S is otherwise a perfect board. I don't fancy the AN7 though.

what is the multiplyer set at
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Old 30-September-04, 09:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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what is the multiplyer set at

10x270 I believe.
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