Where's western digital

jhoop2002 · 13-February-03, 09:49 AM

I heard that they were supposed to come out with 80 gig 8 mg cache 10,000 rpm drives yesterday. Is this just true? and where are they if it is?

Maverick · 13-February-03, 11:07 AM

Yeah they released um. But you probably wont see um in stores till next month. They are going to be Serial ATA also and from what I heard they will be on the expesive side. A 36 gig drive is going to start around 150. The reason for it being 36 gig is that is how much space per platter they will have.

FunkyFresh · 13-February-03, 11:23 AM

According to their press release on 2/10, the first 10K Serial ATA "Raptor" drives will be 36.7GB, costing "30% less" than the business servers' SCSI drives they're aimed at replacing. Given that 36.7GB, 10Krpm SCSI drives can go for $150-$200 (and more), my SWAG (Stupid Wild-@$$ Guess) is that these'll be around $150 at most places. My hope is that they'll be closer to $100-$120 at some.

I haven't seen them for sale anywhere yet either. But good news for us is that, "Western Digital, having no SCSI business to protect, is sure to be aggressive in both pricing and distribution to gain significant market acceptance quickly", according to a news blurb at Tom's Hardware.

FunkyFresh · 13-February-03, 11:24 AM

Oops, Maverick beat me to it..

Maverick · 13-February-03, 11:40 AM

hehehe....looks like we read the same thing. I just couldnt remember where I saw it at.

jhoop2002 · 13-February-03, 11:45 AM

i guess i am going to have read up on the serial ATA then, considering i don't understand why its better or just whats different. Got any good links?

FunkyFresh · 13-February-03, 11:49 AM

There are a couple stories on it in Tom's Storage Guide. There's an overview in one of his earlier stories on Serial ATA, including his basic rundown of the new features:

150 MByte/s maximum transfer rate (300/600 MByte/s envisioned for the future)
Hot-plugging capability
Two power saving modes: partial and slumber
Overlapping (commands)
Tagged command queueing
Seven-wire data cable. Connectors measure just 8 mm wide.

Maverick · 13-February-03, 12:03 PM

I just noticed something. Whats with the new power plug? are they going to make an adapter for that? They dont seem to mention it in the article.

zedric · 13-February-03, 12:25 PM

Yes there are adapters for using the new cable with an old disk (7-pin to 40 pin) as well as using a new disk with an "old" PSU (4-pin power to 15-pin (!!) power).

Link: http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?a...&GrpID=11&s=pl

Maverick · 13-February-03, 12:32 PM

Cool. I knew there were adapters for the ATA to serial ATA just didnt know about the power adapter.

jhoop2002 · 14-February-03, 12:03 AM

Hey this is way off topic but i was wondering if I can take the outside off of my IDE cables? Not so that its bare wire, but i have round cables and there is this sheath around the wire, and i was wondering if you could take that off so the wire would be more manageable. Would that create a lot of interference if i did that? or would the cable still be as hard to manage and hide as is it right now.

If i can find a digital camera i will take pics and point to what i am talking about later.

DedEye · 17-February-03, 03:20 AM

I'm hoping that by the time I need different hard drives these will be cheap and large. Right now I've got 2 IBM 60GXPs in Raid 0 (80gb), but my mobo has built in SATA that I'd like to use.

FeRaL · 17-February-03, 03:49 AM

Well, a buddy of mine works for Western Digital and I'll be willing to talk to him if you guys want...

Tom10167 · 17-February-03, 01:21 PM

I'd rather have big than fast, with hd's anyway, where's the 300gig I keep hearing about?? C'mon I want a tera in my comp by April!

abyssling · 17-February-03, 03:17 PM

Not me Tom, My primary rig has an array of 9.1 gig SCSI drives in RAID0 in it that I use to load all my apps. You wouldnt believe how fast I zone in Everquest

makes pvp fun as hell heh, but i do have a couple of 80 gigger ide drives that I use for file storage, so large capacity drives are useful, i just happen to consider ide drives disposable throwaways since they never seem to last very long

jhoop2002 · 17-February-03, 03:20 PM

how long do your IDE drives generally last abyssling? I really haven't has any problem with IDE drives and durability. I am ready to get rid of the computer before the drive fails.

FeRaL · 17-February-03, 03:50 PM

LOL jhoop, I hear you on that one. I have an ATA33 drive that still works

abyssling · 17-February-03, 03:53 PM

I guess i just punish my drives a lot, and yeah Ive had some really good drives that have lasted a long time, but I'd say 65% of my ide drives (with the exception of anything quantum built) die within the first 18 months

if its an IBM hard drive, its dead in 6 months =P

Also you have to keep in mind that I dont backup data on cds, I use removeable drive bays so i'm constantly swapping out drives, which can put a lot of wear and tear on a drive after extended periods. SCSI drives stand up to the abuse SO much better

13-February-03, 09:49 AM		#1 (permalink)
jhoop2002 Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	Where's western digital I heard that they were supposed to come out with 80 gig 8 mg cache 10,000 rpm drives yesterday. Is this just true? and where are they if it is?

13-February-03, 11:49 AM		#7 (permalink)
FunkyFresh 'Da Doctor of Funk	There are a couple stories on it in Tom's Storage Guide. There's an overview in one of his earlier stories on Serial ATA, including his basic rundown of the new features: 150 MByte/s maximum transfer rate (300/600 MByte/s envisioned for the future) Hot-plugging capability Two power saving modes: partial and slumber Overlapping (commands) Tagged command queueing Seven-wire data cable. Connectors measure just 8 mm wide.

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13-February-03, 11:07 AM		#2 (permalink)
Maverick Apex Elite Expert Tech	Yeah they released um. But you probably wont see um in stores till next month. They are going to be Serial ATA also and from what I heard they will be on the expesive side. A 36 gig drive is going to start around 150. The reason for it being 36 gig is that is how much space per platter they will have.

13-February-03, 11:23 AM		#3 (permalink)
FunkyFresh 'Da Doctor of Funk	According to their press release on 2/10, the first 10K Serial ATA "Raptor" drives will be 36.7GB, costing "30% less" than the business servers' SCSI drives they're aimed at replacing. Given that 36.7GB, 10Krpm SCSI drives can go for $150-$200 (and more), my SWAG (Stupid Wild-@$$ Guess) is that these'll be around $150 at most places. My hope is that they'll be closer to $100-$120 at some. I haven't seen them for sale anywhere yet either. But good news for us is that, "Western Digital, having no SCSI business to protect, is sure to be aggressive in both pricing and distribution to gain significant market acceptance quickly", according to a news blurb at Tom's Hardware.

13-February-03, 11:24 AM		#4 (permalink)
FunkyFresh 'Da Doctor of Funk	Oops, Maverick beat me to it..

13-February-03, 11:40 AM		#5 (permalink)
Maverick Apex Elite Expert Tech	hehehe....looks like we read the same thing. I just couldnt remember where I saw it at.

13-February-03, 11:45 AM		#6 (permalink)
jhoop2002 Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	i guess i am going to have read up on the serial ATA then, considering i don't understand why its better or just whats different. Got any good links?

13-February-03, 12:03 PM		#8 (permalink)
Maverick Apex Elite Expert Tech	I just noticed something. Whats with the new power plug? are they going to make an adapter for that? They dont seem to mention it in the article.

13-February-03, 12:25 PM		#9 (permalink)
zedric Apex Techie II	Yes there are adapters for using the new cable with an old disk (7-pin to 40 pin) as well as using a new disk with an "old" PSU (4-pin power to 15-pin (!!) power). Link: http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?a...&GrpID=11&s=pl

13-February-03, 12:32 PM		#10 (permalink)
Maverick Apex Elite Expert Tech	Cool. I knew there were adapters for the ATA to serial ATA just didnt know about the power adapter.

14-February-03, 12:03 AM		#11 (permalink)
jhoop2002 Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	Hey this is way off topic but i was wondering if I can take the outside off of my IDE cables? Not so that its bare wire, but i have round cables and there is this sheath around the wire, and i was wondering if you could take that off so the wire would be more manageable. Would that create a lot of interference if i did that? or would the cable still be as hard to manage and hide as is it right now. If i can find a digital camera i will take pics and point to what i am talking about later.

17-February-03, 03:20 AM		#12 (permalink)
DedEye Apex Master Tech Apprentice	I'm hoping that by the time I need different hard drives these will be cheap and large. Right now I've got 2 IBM 60GXPs in Raid 0 (80gb), but my mobo has built in SATA that I'd like to use.

17-February-03, 03:49 AM		#13 (permalink)
FeRaL Mutant Moderator	Well, a buddy of mine works for Western Digital and I'll be willing to talk to him if you guys want...

17-February-03, 01:21 PM		#14 (permalink)
Tom10167 Apex Tech Maniac	I'd rather have big than fast, with hd's anyway, where's the 300gig I keep hearing about?? C'mon I want a tera in my comp by April!

17-February-03, 03:17 PM		#15 (permalink)
abyssling Apex Tech Maniac	Not me Tom, My primary rig has an array of 9.1 gig SCSI drives in RAID0 in it that I use to load all my apps. You wouldnt believe how fast I zone in Everquest makes pvp fun as hell heh, but i do have a couple of 80 gigger ide drives that I use for file storage, so large capacity drives are useful, i just happen to consider ide drives disposable throwaways since they never seem to last very long

17-February-03, 03:20 PM		#16 (permalink)
jhoop2002 Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	how long do your IDE drives generally last abyssling? I really haven't has any problem with IDE drives and durability. I am ready to get rid of the computer before the drive fails.

17-February-03, 03:50 PM		#17 (permalink)
FeRaL Mutant Moderator	LOL jhoop, I hear you on that one. I have an ATA33 drive that still works

17-February-03, 03:53 PM		#18 (permalink)
abyssling Apex Tech Maniac	I guess i just punish my drives a lot, and yeah Ive had some really good drives that have lasted a long time, but I'd say 65% of my ide drives (with the exception of anything quantum built) die within the first 18 months if its an IBM hard drive, its dead in 6 months =P Also you have to keep in mind that I dont backup data on cds, I use removeable drive bays so i'm constantly swapping out drives, which can put a lot of wear and tear on a drive after extended periods. SCSI drives stand up to the abuse SO much better