Just installed 2 new ide cdrw/dvd drives,,comp acting REALLY SLOW

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 11:56 AM

This happened to me before... i hooked up a cd rom drive,,, and all of a sudden it takes windows probably 45 seconds longer to boot,,, and it takes 25 more seconds to log on (i know its not that bad,,, but i'm a computer perfectionist,, i'm sure a lot of u are

)...

and when i unhook the drives,,, boom computer boots really fast (as it should with 3.4ghz and 1gb ram)...

anyone know what might be causing this??? its really frustrating me.....

thanks

FeRaL · 13-May-04, 12:07 PM

Give us some system specs, like hardware info and OS infor (ie what version of Windows etc...)

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 12:16 PM

win xp home serv pack 1

p3.4 northwood

1gb ddr geil pc440 ram

radeon 9800pro 256mb

msi 875p neo fis2r mobo

thermaltakebutterfly psu

80gb 7200rpm seagate sata hdd

sound blaster audigy 2 zs

and when the boot screen comes up i can hear the drive/ drives spinning for a good while...

thanks...
watercooling (polarflo blocks,eheim 1046 pump etc.)

FeRaL · 13-May-04, 12:18 PM

Just out of curiosity, what do you have the jumpers on the cdrw/dvd drives set as? Make sure one is master and one is slave.

EDIT: Also are they on the same IDE cable or different cables?

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 12:33 PM

they are both on one cable,,, one is set to master,,,the other slave,,, maybe i should try a diff cable,,, or maybe i need to change some settings in my bios............. very frustrating when ur comp slows down for no significant reason haha....

corruptjoker · 13-May-04, 12:37 PM

Are the cdroms hooked to the primary or seconday ide connector?

FeRaL · 13-May-04, 12:40 PM

You may try putting them on seperate controllers/channels. I was thinking that if they were that could have been the cause of the slow down if you didn't have the IDE channels set to NONE in their properties in the controll pannel.

On the advanced tab of the IDE channel's properties they have two settings, auto detect and none. If they are set to autodetect on the second device where there is none, it will seach for it and take a little bit longer to say there is none.

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 12:40 PM

primary,, says IDE1 on the mobooo

wow people reply sooo quick on this messageboard,,, i love it....

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 12:47 PM

thanks for the help so far,,, yeah feral i'll try that now,,,,,and switch the cables,, etc. and see what happens....

TYCOON · 13-May-04, 12:48 PM

I know for a fact that cdroms slow down your startup, but not by 40 seconds!! about 15 or 20 seconds, Try messing around in your bios.

Edit: if you think this is fast you should see after supper when everyone isnt at work or school.

corruptjoker · 13-May-04, 12:51 PM

I ran into a problem once where the computer would boot slow with the cdroms on the primary ide channel but I doubt thats your problem. Since you have an sata drive put both your cdroms on seperate channels.

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 01:13 PM

i'm starting to get confused now,,,

i unhooked the cd roms,,, still really slow booting/ performance,,, hooked up a diff psu to make sure the comp was getting enough voltage (since i sleeved my butterfly some of the atx connectors aren't too well fit in)...

i'm calling msi tech support to figure out y since i flashed the bios i've been getting new hardware messagaes saying "base system device detected.. please install etc.".. that could be it,,

and i'm gonna mess around with the bios more..

thanks..

nev_payne · 13-May-04, 02:55 PM

wow that dont sound too good - i dont know if this differs at all but have you tried them in secondary IDE instead of primary - im sure primary as the upper hand on performance and priority, thats how ive always built anyway.

Badaziam · 13-May-04, 03:09 PM

I had almost the exact same problem with my Abit mobo. I turned on bus mastering and now I boot in the blink of an eye. Also I think I set my optical drives to cable select.

gomey487 · 13-May-04, 03:30 PM

yeah i'm gonna try all that stuff out... gotta make sure its not something else messing it up.. i'll tell u all what happens,,,,,,,,i have a feeling going to another channel or the 3rd ide channel might fix it...
thanks for all the help.......

gomey487 · 17-May-04, 12:29 PM

k just found out i got a virus (cause my old hdd broke i just got a new one 2 weeks ago,, and stupidly my virus software wasn't one of the things i installed first.),, removed it and now everything is pretty much back to normal..

i guess it was just out of coincedience that i installed the 2 drives and got the virus.

it was w32:Jeefo btw...

thanks for all the help..

godfoot · 17-May-04, 01:59 PM

It seems you have fixed the problem already but you may also want to check your BIOS for settings that you can tweak for faster boots. I know for the Shuttle AN35/N Ultra mobo there is a setting in the Advanced BIOS features to enable Quick POST. You may try searching for settings such as that for even faster booting.

FeRaL · 17-May-04, 03:56 PM

Glad to here it was as simple as a virus removal away.

13-May-04, 11:56 AM		#1 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	Just installed 2 new ide cdrw/dvd drives,,comp acting REALLY SLOW This happened to me before... i hooked up a cd rom drive,,, and all of a sudden it takes windows probably 45 seconds longer to boot,,, and it takes 25 more seconds to log on (i know its not that bad,,, but i'm a computer perfectionist,, i'm sure a lot of u are )... and when i unhook the drives,,, boom computer boots really fast (as it should with 3.4ghz and 1gb ram)... anyone know what might be causing this??? its really frustrating me..... thanks

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13-May-04, 12:07 PM		#2 (permalink)
FeRaL Mutant Moderator	Give us some system specs, like hardware info and OS infor (ie what version of Windows etc...)

13-May-04, 12:16 PM		#3 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	win xp home serv pack 1 p3.4 northwood 1gb ddr geil pc440 ram radeon 9800pro 256mb msi 875p neo fis2r mobo thermaltakebutterfly psu 80gb 7200rpm seagate sata hdd sound blaster audigy 2 zs and when the boot screen comes up i can hear the drive/ drives spinning for a good while... thanks... watercooling (polarflo blocks,eheim 1046 pump etc.)

13-May-04, 12:18 PM		#4 (permalink)
FeRaL Mutant Moderator	Just out of curiosity, what do you have the jumpers on the cdrw/dvd drives set as? Make sure one is master and one is slave. EDIT: Also are they on the same IDE cable or different cables?

13-May-04, 12:33 PM		#5 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	they are both on one cable,,, one is set to master,,,the other slave,,, maybe i should try a diff cable,,, or maybe i need to change some settings in my bios............. very frustrating when ur comp slows down for no significant reason haha....

13-May-04, 12:37 PM		#6 (permalink)
corruptjoker Decept-Hoe-Con	Are the cdroms hooked to the primary or seconday ide connector?

13-May-04, 12:40 PM		#7 (permalink)
FeRaL Mutant Moderator	You may try putting them on seperate controllers/channels. I was thinking that if they were that could have been the cause of the slow down if you didn't have the IDE channels set to NONE in their properties in the controll pannel. On the advanced tab of the IDE channel's properties they have two settings, auto detect and none. If they are set to autodetect on the second device where there is none, it will seach for it and take a little bit longer to say there is none.

13-May-04, 12:40 PM		#8 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	primary,, says IDE1 on the mobooo wow people reply sooo quick on this messageboard,,, i love it....

13-May-04, 12:47 PM		#9 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	thanks for the help so far,,, yeah feral i'll try that now,,,,,and switch the cables,, etc. and see what happens....

13-May-04, 12:48 PM		#10 (permalink)
TYCOON Apex Tech God	I know for a fact that cdroms slow down your startup, but not by 40 seconds!! about 15 or 20 seconds, Try messing around in your bios. Edit: if you think this is fast you should see after supper when everyone isnt at work or school.

13-May-04, 12:51 PM		#11 (permalink)
corruptjoker Decept-Hoe-Con	I ran into a problem once where the computer would boot slow with the cdroms on the primary ide channel but I doubt thats your problem. Since you have an sata drive put both your cdroms on seperate channels.

13-May-04, 01:13 PM		#12 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	i'm starting to get confused now,,, i unhooked the cd roms,,, still really slow booting/ performance,,, hooked up a diff psu to make sure the comp was getting enough voltage (since i sleeved my butterfly some of the atx connectors aren't too well fit in)... i'm calling msi tech support to figure out y since i flashed the bios i've been getting new hardware messagaes saying "base system device detected.. please install etc.".. that could be it,, and i'm gonna mess around with the bios more.. thanks..

13-May-04, 02:55 PM		#13 (permalink)
nev_payne Apex Tech God	wow that dont sound too good - i dont know if this differs at all but have you tried them in secondary IDE instead of primary - im sure primary as the upper hand on performance and priority, thats how ive always built anyway.

13-May-04, 03:09 PM		#14 (permalink)
Badaziam Apex Master Tech Apprentice	I had almost the exact same problem with my Abit mobo. I turned on bus mastering and now I boot in the blink of an eye. Also I think I set my optical drives to cable select.

13-May-04, 03:30 PM		#15 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	yeah i'm gonna try all that stuff out... gotta make sure its not something else messing it up.. i'll tell u all what happens,,,,,,,,i have a feeling going to another channel or the 3rd ide channel might fix it... thanks for all the help.......

17-May-04, 12:29 PM		#16 (permalink)
gomey487 Apex Techie Lite	k just found out i got a virus (cause my old hdd broke i just got a new one 2 weeks ago,, and stupidly my virus software wasn't one of the things i installed first.),, removed it and now everything is pretty much back to normal.. i guess it was just out of coincedience that i installed the 2 drives and got the virus. it was w32:Jeefo btw... thanks for all the help..

17-May-04, 01:59 PM		#17 (permalink)
godfoot A George Orwell fan...sorta	It seems you have fixed the problem already but you may also want to check your BIOS for settings that you can tweak for faster boots. I know for the Shuttle AN35/N Ultra mobo there is a setting in the Advanced BIOS features to enable Quick POST. You may try searching for settings such as that for even faster booting.

17-May-04, 03:56 PM		#18 (permalink)
FeRaL Mutant Moderator	Glad to here it was as simple as a virus removal away.