well my mx500 had been cutting in and out for a while now, and it just finally died today, so i need a new mouse. this is the second logitech mouse thats been bad for me (i had an mx700 before but it was unresponsive at high movement speeds, and being a low-sensitivity player that mouse wouldnt cut it). SOOOOO..... ive basically narrowed it down to an mx510 or that new one from the ppl who own razer or whatever they are now, their new optical one that was just reviewed on 3dgameman. unfortunately, i dont want to deal with logitech cause of the experience with this mouse, but at the same time while it did work it was the best dam mouse possible. any ideas? should i get one of these or look elsewhere?

Well, as far as I know the new Razor one is a ball mouse = nono; I'd go for the MX510, that thing looks nice visually and on paper.

Let us know how it works BTW, my wireless desktop setup is a little annoying, I can feel the lag sometimes in games, its minimal but hey.

they just made an optical one, 1000 dpi, hold on ill find it

EDITk here it is Razer Viper

if you dont have anything against microsoft mice, i suggest getting one of those. ive got the 5 button optical wheel mouse and its holding up great.

sorry i didnt say this earlier, but clarification.... i want to spend around 50-60 tops, it has to have at least 5 buttons ( i use them in gaming, this eliminates the razor i jsut realized) and have a very very good sensor that can take fast movements.... basically, im asking if i should get microsoft or give logi anotehr try

I got a MouseMan Wheel optical mouse, look in Clown's gallery he modded one, I prefer it over the newer gamer mice (it fits my hand sooooooooo perfect) and it's BLOO

it doesn't have as many buttons but I absolutely love it, a HUGE upgrade over a Microsoft wheel mouse, the factory white ones with balls in them.

i think ill just get an mx510 if i can find a blue one, nobody sells them yet

You do realize that mouse has a 5 year warranty?

well i kinda think its my fault. messing with the chord (bending it and such) will cause the light to come on for a few secs, so its obviously a svrewed up chord. i didnt take good enough care of it when transporting it to lans. either way, this just gives me an excuse to upgrade to 510, which is a lot smoother from what i hear, and in the world of ut, smooth is good

i got a mx700 and love it, i have no trouble at all in games with it, all fall before me in COD

I went MX500(counter strike days) to MX510 (no diffrence that I could tell) then to my mx 700, all the reviews I read about the mx700 says it has perfect responce time and tehre is no diffrence between it and a corded mouse ....this is a lie!! you can tell the difrence between the mx500 and mx700...there is just such a small delay..its anoying..im not impressed with it but its good enough becuase i really dont play much video games anymore.

Quote: Originally Posted by Arkangyl Well, as far as I know the new Razor one is a ball mouse = nono; I'd go for the MX510, that thing looks nice visually and on paper. Let us know how it works BTW, my wireless desktop setup is a little annoying, I can feel the lag sometimes in games, its minimal but hey.

The new Viper, is optical http://www.razerzone.com/viper.html

Quote: Originally Posted by TYCOON I went MX500(counter strike days) to MX510 (no diffrence that I could tell) then to my mx 700, all the reviews I read about the mx700 says it has perfect responce time and tehre is no diffrence between it and a corded mouse ....this is a lie!! you can tell the difrence between the mx500 and mx700...there is just such a small delay..its anoying..im not impressed with it but its good enough becuase i really dont play much video games anymore.

YOU LIE! MX700 FOREVER!!!!

I picked up an Mx510 myself despite already having a perfectly good Mx500 (because it was on sale for 40 bucks! So I couldn't pass it up). Awesome mouse once again, and the included drivers far better optimize the buttons to work better with games (as before, their 'up to date' drivers still wouldn't allow me to configure the Mx500 to most FPS's I was playing). Though I did pick up a red one, _then_ saw there was a blue version (which shows up during installation), unfortunately, I've still had no luck in finding such a thing _anywhere_, so good luck on that. This is certainly the best looking and best mouse overall that I've ever owned. But hey, I haven't tried that new microsoft setup with the scroll wheel that shifts side to side as well as scroll.

my mx700 was great for small movements, but if u move more than like 3 inches in any direction at a high speed, it starts to move at a set speed which is really slow, and for fps that is unacceptable

ive never noticed a problem with it at all, ever. and i play COD like 4 hours a day, and i do quite well at it, but i also have sensitivity high, so i dont have to move my arm that much, that way you never run into the keyboard, lol that sux.

ya i play ultra low sens at ut2k4 with lots of movement, so its a problem... at high sens the mx700 is perfectly fine

Quote: Originally Posted by Spc. Forces Bob ive never noticed a problem with it at all, ever. and i play COD like 4 hours a day, and i do quite well at it, but i also have sensitivity high, so i dont have to move my arm that much, that way you never run into the keyboard, lol that sux.

LOL That can be a problem sometimes.

I dont have much mouse space period (server tower next to my mon), so i crank up the setting to high.

I play games with low sensitivity. My MS Explorer 3.0 has never failed. Mouse of the pros.

Go to nearest retail store and pick a couple up - try them and return the one you dont like. I ended up with the MX700 and I dig it. I think its already been mentioned but try out a Microshaft optical mouse - not sure if you can configure it or not but that tilting wheel thingy could be handy.