advantages to using 3700 ddr for overclocking?

Shadowman0000 · 07-November-03, 04:13 PM

Does anyone know if there is an advantage to using 3700 speed ddr when overclocking on an 800 mhz bus? It sounds reasonable to me on paper, but I wanted to get the consensus before I go ahead and actually buy anything.

Joose · 07-November-03, 04:22 PM

made by whom?

I would think if it's rated to gohellafast then why not?

Shadowman0000 · 07-November-03, 04:36 PM

Well, Corsair TwinX of course.

Actually I was looking at the latency on the 3700/4000's... Seems the latency on the 3200 is 2-3-3 while on the 3700 and 4000's its 3-4-4-8. I have to wonder if the higher bus speed offsets that minor latency difference in an O/C'd environment.

Joose · 07-November-03, 04:42 PM

well, some of the pimps were ding testing on this over in this thread here:

http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread....threadid=10841

so I would tend to go with lower latency vs. a higher FSB...

Shadowman0000 · 07-November-03, 05:04 PM

hey PJ thx for that link... very informative. Sorry I didnt see it before I posted this.

putwig · 07-November-03, 05:04 PM

Intel or AMD platform?

That is the single most important question.

Shadowman0000 · 07-November-03, 05:14 PM

Intel... Im looking at an Abit IC7-MAX3 mobo.

putwig · 07-November-03, 05:20 PM

The power of increased bandwidth and FSB should far outweigh the importance of latency for an Intel system ...... especially if overclocking is the goal.

AMD systems are much less likely to achieve massive bus speeds and therefore latency is much more of an issue.

lAnonymousl · 07-November-03, 06:25 PM

It all depends on how far you can push your processor. If you know the maximum FSB you are able to attain you can plan which type of RAM will get you the most out of your processor at the lowest timings.

Shadowman0000 · 07-November-03, 07:34 PM

I guess Ill have to wait until I get all the parts... Right now Im planning on a P4 3.2c, with the above board and whichever xms ram i need... more than likely the twinx 4000 ddr based on what Putwig is suggesting.

Obviously Im looking to OC so Im looking to find what ram ill get the most benefit out of... cost isnt an issue on this.

putwig · 07-November-03, 08:03 PM

If you truly are hoping to OC you should get the 2.4C, not only will it save you huge coin ...... it will oc better.

Remember, Intel CPU's are multi-locked.

The 2.4C is 12 x 200
The 3.2C is 16 x 200

The lower multiplier of the 2.4C will give you much more headroom for FSB overclocking ....... and yes, PC4000 is what you want. What mobo?

Shadowman0000 · 07-November-03, 10:40 PM

The Abit IC7-MAX3.

Joose · 10-November-03, 03:31 PM

ooooooooo nice motherboard.....

07-November-03, 04:13 PM		#1 (permalink)
Shadowman0000 Apex Advanced Techie	advantages to using 3700 ddr for overclocking? Does anyone know if there is an advantage to using 3700 speed ddr when overclocking on an 800 mhz bus? It sounds reasonable to me on paper, but I wanted to get the consensus before I go ahead and actually buy anything.

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07-November-03, 04:22 PM		#2 (permalink)
Joose Joosey	made by whom? I would think if it's rated to gohellafast then why not?

07-November-03, 04:36 PM		#3 (permalink)
Shadowman0000 Apex Advanced Techie	Well, Corsair TwinX of course. Actually I was looking at the latency on the 3700/4000's... Seems the latency on the 3200 is 2-3-3 while on the 3700 and 4000's its 3-4-4-8. I have to wonder if the higher bus speed offsets that minor latency difference in an O/C'd environment.

07-November-03, 04:42 PM		#4 (permalink)
Joose Joosey	well, some of the pimps were ding testing on this over in this thread here: http://forums.pcapex.com/showthread....threadid=10841 so I would tend to go with lower latency vs. a higher FSB...

07-November-03, 05:04 PM		#5 (permalink)
Shadowman0000 Apex Advanced Techie	hey PJ thx for that link... very informative. Sorry I didnt see it before I posted this.

07-November-03, 05:04 PM		#6 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp	Intel or AMD platform? That is the single most important question.

07-November-03, 05:14 PM		#7 (permalink)
Shadowman0000 Apex Advanced Techie	Intel... Im looking at an Abit IC7-MAX3 mobo.

07-November-03, 05:20 PM		#8 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp	The power of increased bandwidth and FSB should far outweigh the importance of latency for an Intel system ...... especially if overclocking is the goal. AMD systems are much less likely to achieve massive bus speeds and therefore latency is much more of an issue.

07-November-03, 06:25 PM		#9 (permalink)
lAnonymousl The Who? Hoe	It all depends on how far you can push your processor. If you know the maximum FSB you are able to attain you can plan which type of RAM will get you the most out of your processor at the lowest timings.

07-November-03, 07:34 PM		#10 (permalink)
Shadowman0000 Apex Advanced Techie	I guess Ill have to wait until I get all the parts... Right now Im planning on a P4 3.2c, with the above board and whichever xms ram i need... more than likely the twinx 4000 ddr based on what Putwig is suggesting. Obviously Im looking to OC so Im looking to find what ram ill get the most benefit out of... cost isnt an issue on this.

07-November-03, 08:03 PM		#11 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp	If you truly are hoping to OC you should get the 2.4C, not only will it save you huge coin ...... it will oc better. Remember, Intel CPU's are multi-locked. The 2.4C is 12 x 200 The 3.2C is 16 x 200 The lower multiplier of the 2.4C will give you much more headroom for FSB overclocking ....... and yes, PC4000 is what you want. What mobo?

07-November-03, 10:40 PM		#12 (permalink)
Shadowman0000 Apex Advanced Techie	The Abit IC7-MAX3.

10-November-03, 03:31 PM		#13 (permalink)
Joose Joosey	ooooooooo nice motherboard.....