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Old 05-November-03, 04:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just got done buying some Mushkin Level II Black PC3500 RAM (rated at 2-2-3-6 @ DDR 433) and managed to overclock it to DDR456 at those timings. Who said low latency modules don't overclock well?

Now I'm running @ 3389 MHz (282 FSB) with RAM timings of 2-2-3-6. It doesn't get much better than that.

And so another Mushkin fan is born....
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Old 11-November-03, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you running Intel or AMD? Those numbers are pretty impressive... Even XMS ddr above 3200 is running at 3-4-4-8.

Are you saying you'd suggest the Mushkin over Corsair?
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Old 11-November-03, 03:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just orderd 1 gb kit of the same ram on Sunday, hope I can get mine to OC that well with those timings.

I will be running it in a A64 setup using the chaintech mobo, we will see
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Old 11-November-03, 03:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Is that registered RAM?
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Old 11-November-03, 04:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Shadowman0000---Intel; My limited personal experience with RAM modules from different manufacturers ranks them something like this: Mushkin>Corsair>OCZ>Geil. It could just be that this RAM has better memory chips than others, however (Winbond BH5). I think that should be one of the key things to look at before the manufacturer. Find out of the chips are good, then decide which company to buy from if they make the same RAM modules with these chips.

Feral---No.
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Old 11-November-03, 04:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hmmm... I thought it was more like Mushkin>geil>ocz>corsair

I was gonna swap out my ocz for some geil, maybe i'll reconsider.

I know this though, I have my ocz running at 500mhz 2.5-4-4-5, I tried some corsair twinx LL 3500 1gb and 3200 LL 512mb, neither couldnt hit anywhere that.


Bah i just want some ram that will handle an OC to 3.6ghz.
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Old 11-November-03, 04:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, it that mem isn't "registered" I guess CPU Killer aint gonna be getting his a64 up and running anytime soon then...
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Old 11-November-03, 04:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah he can as long as he gets the A64 and not the Athlon FX. The FX is the only one that takes registered memory.
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Old 11-November-03, 05:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Slider and I were just having a discussion on the impact of registered vs. non-registered memory.... Im not 100% sure if ECC's stability is going to be an issue when using hi-quality memory... just another question to pile on top of latency/speed.
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Old 11-November-03, 05:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I thought all the 64 bit AMD CPU's had to have registered DIMMS.
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Old 11-November-03, 05:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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ECC memory is unnecessary for all but servers. They come at quite a hefty price, sacrifice speed for stability, and aren't offered in very high bandwidth modules (PC4000 and such). Just stick with non-ECC ram unless you have to.

P.S.--ECC and registered RAM aren't the same thing. They are usually found together in the same module, but not always.

On registered RAM the pins are buffered through a register. This reduces loading by buffering the control and address inputs.

ECC is a circuit which detests and/or corrects memory errors.
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Old 11-November-03, 08:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Looks like Ill be going with the Mushkin... Thx Anon.
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Old 11-November-03, 08:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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hrmm, I thought they made the AMD64-FX to run with non-ECC memory, just a step of removing a pin...
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Old 11-November-03, 09:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So A,
What did you do with the Corsair?
Still available?
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Old 11-November-03, 10:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ah crap. I forgot to check that thread again. I thought it was dead. I just sold the thing on ebay about an hour ago. Sorry dude.
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Old 11-November-03, 11:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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well i have my 3500 running 2-5-2-2 with my FSB @ 302....but @ a 3:2 divider......i can pull over 6k in sandra Memory bandwidth, 11200 in PCmark 2k2 (over 9000 on CPU). and i ran 2186 in PCpitstop. all on a stock board (IC7) with a 2.4c SL6WF stepping.
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Old 11-November-03, 11:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I know where to get Winbond BH5 3700 Buffalo for $63 a stick (256mb) or $102 for a 512mb
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Old 11-November-03, 11:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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um...where?
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Old 12-November-03, 12:14 AM   #19 (permalink)
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DITTO...
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Old 12-November-03, 12:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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yeah... where.....
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