Vapochill

Crazy_J · 24-October-03, 02:09 PM

I am having problems with my vapochill case.

I am switching all my previous working hardware into this brand new vapochill case.

I was able to install all the parts as directed my the vapo manual.

My problem is when I power up, the cpu gets cooled down to -5c and then will attempt to boot up the cpu. However, when the cpu trys to boot up, the system will shutdown and restart it self over and over again.

Has anyone else have this problem?

Chrome_Rust · 24-October-03, 02:14 PM

As i am not faminiar with the Vapo itself, i am faminilar with that happening. it sometimes happens when the CPU fan header has nothing pluged into it, meaning it is looking for the RPM signal and not seeing it and then decided that there is no fan there, and to prevent the CPU from burning up it shuts down the system....Just a thought....
Anyway what part of OH are you from?

Charlie

me_john85 · 24-October-03, 02:19 PM

not shure but maybe in the BIOS theres a setting for them computer to turn off if it gets below a certain temperature
just guessing

Crazy_J · 24-October-03, 02:24 PM

I have the PSU's fan plugged into the CPU fan controller pins on the mobo. So their shouldn't be no problem their.
I also checked all the jumpers on the mobo, and they are connected correctly.

My monitor will get no signal because when the cpu attempts to boot it will last less than a second. Therefore I can not check the bios.

I live in Auglaize county in ohio.

____
edit

I just unplugged the PSU fan from the CPU fan slot, and plugged in my tornado into the cpu fan slot...and my system still won't boot up.

Chrome_Rust · 24-October-03, 02:29 PM

you live about a half hour away.... Check your PM's

BigAkita · 24-October-03, 05:35 PM

Disable auto-detect CPU fan in the bios. If your PSU fan doesn't have a yellow sensor wire the comp will not correctly detect a CPU fan.

As Chrome stated, that is classic "no fan" symptoms. Either that or you fried your CPU. I lost one when I first set up my Vapo.

Kage · 24-October-03, 06:03 PM

Also, if the fan RPM is not high enough that may also cause a problem. I have my PSU fan plugged into the header and it reads at 2200 RPM when monitored but during boot up the motherboard refuses to accept it. So, all I did was hook the RPM monitoring cable of the Tornado I was using, went into the bios, and then disabled the FOC(fan off control). The option should be where the temps of everything is (PC Health for mine).

[edit] lucky 777 post!

Digital-World · 24-October-03, 07:04 PM

Wow same county I live in

wonders where... PM me let me know....

Crazy_J · 25-October-03, 01:18 AM

As I stated in a previous post, I did connect my tornado into in to the CPU fan sensor. The PC still did not boot.

BigAkita,
I can not get into the bios because the pc will reset a second after the Vapochill case reaches the defualt -5c. I am also hoping that I did not fry my XP2400. But its a possibility.

Another thing the nags me in back of my mind is that my vaporchill unit came with two vapochill cards. One was already installed in the case. Maybe I should try swapping them and see if it will let me boot up.

swanny321 · 25-October-03, 02:07 AM

well if u fried your XP2400 get and 2500 and get some real use outta that vapochill

Crazy_J · 25-October-03, 04:48 PM

Actually, I was looking at a 3000xp. They are under 200 dollars now.

I left my Vaporchill at the office, so I can't work on it this weekend. Its too heavy to carry back an forth.

Chrome_Rust · 25-October-03, 04:53 PM

you dont want an XP 3000, they suck on OC headroom
i know.....where do you work? in Wapak? just wondering

Crazy_J · 25-October-03, 05:20 PM

Currently I work at Setex.. but I may get a job at Bright.net in Wapak soon.

Chrome_Rust · 25-October-03, 05:27 PM

I applied there once. Setex that is.....I do alot of Bright.Net's Ft. Jennings local repair work. the DSL i have is BN bandwidth....

TekXoID · 25-October-03, 05:49 PM

Lets iron out the simple (but possible) mistakes:
Do you get any video at all on boot up?
Are both the ATX 20-Pin and 4-Pin connectors hooked up to your motherboard?
Does the GPU fan spinup?
Does the HDD spinup?
Any beep codes?
If motherboard has two-digit diagnostic onboard; any codes?

Tornado fans don't have RPM sensors to my knowledge, and PSU fans spin so slowly that they may not be detected so I suggest you hookup a standard 3-Pin fan with RPM sensor lead to the CPU_FAN header.

Crazy_J · 25-October-03, 08:03 PM

No video will boot up.

The 20 and 4 pins are connected directly to the chillcontrol card..from there the cable is connected to the motherboard. Otherwise, the pc would boot up and fry my cpu since the vapo will have no juice.

The GPU fan does spin for one second.
The HDD does spin
No beep codes.

My tornadoes do have a RPM sesnors that have 3 pin connector. I was able to monitor the speed on my previous setup in a normal case. Yes one was connected to the CPU_Fan header.

HawkEye_Pierce · 25-October-03, 10:15 PM

Make sure the mobo is one that works with vapochill units. Some mobos WON'T, and have the same symptoms you are getting. What type of mobo do you have?

BigAkita · 25-October-03, 10:18 PM

Re-mount the vaporizing arm on the CPU and try again. If that doesn't work I recommend trying the CPU in another rig. You just got lucky with the two cards.

Crazy_J · 26-October-03, 12:27 AM

I have an Abit NF7 mobo. The vaporchill compatibility chart shows my mobo is compatible.

TekXoID · 26-October-03, 02:31 AM

In a situation like this I would test every component, starting with cpu, in another system until I find the defective part.
I'm leaning towards a defective or incorrectly installed vapochill.

24-October-03, 02:09 PM		#1 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	Vapochill I am having problems with my vapochill case. I am switching all my previous working hardware into this brand new vapochill case. I was able to install all the parts as directed my the vapo manual. My problem is when I power up, the cpu gets cooled down to -5c and then will attempt to boot up the cpu. However, when the cpu trys to boot up, the system will shutdown and restart it self over and over again. Has anyone else have this problem?

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24-October-03, 02:14 PM		#2 (permalink)
Chrome_Rust Apex Tech God	As i am not faminiar with the Vapo itself, i am faminilar with that happening. it sometimes happens when the CPU fan header has nothing pluged into it, meaning it is looking for the RPM signal and not seeing it and then decided that there is no fan there, and to prevent the CPU from burning up it shuts down the system....Just a thought.... Anyway what part of OH are you from? Charlie

24-October-03, 02:19 PM		#3 (permalink)
me_john85 Camp Pen-Hoe-tan's Hoe	not shure but maybe in the BIOS theres a setting for them computer to turn off if it gets below a certain temperature just guessing

24-October-03, 02:24 PM		#4 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	I have the PSU's fan plugged into the CPU fan controller pins on the mobo. So their shouldn't be no problem their. I also checked all the jumpers on the mobo, and they are connected correctly. My monitor will get no signal because when the cpu attempts to boot it will last less than a second. Therefore I can not check the bios. I live in Auglaize county in ohio. ____ edit I just unplugged the PSU fan from the CPU fan slot, and plugged in my tornado into the cpu fan slot...and my system still won't boot up.

24-October-03, 02:29 PM		#5 (permalink)
Chrome_Rust Apex Tech God	you live about a half hour away.... Check your PM's

24-October-03, 05:35 PM		#6 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer	Disable auto-detect CPU fan in the bios. If your PSU fan doesn't have a yellow sensor wire the comp will not correctly detect a CPU fan. As Chrome stated, that is classic "no fan" symptoms. Either that or you fried your CPU. I lost one when I first set up my Vapo.

24-October-03, 06:03 PM		#7 (permalink)
Kage Lokie's Personal WU-Hoe	Also, if the fan RPM is not high enough that may also cause a problem. I have my PSU fan plugged into the header and it reads at 2200 RPM when monitored but during boot up the motherboard refuses to accept it. So, all I did was hook the RPM monitoring cable of the Tornado I was using, went into the bios, and then disabled the FOC(fan off control). The option should be where the temps of everything is (PC Health for mine). [edit] lucky 777 post!

24-October-03, 07:04 PM		#8 (permalink)
Digital-World Old Skool Pimp	Wow same county I live in wonders where... PM me let me know....

25-October-03, 01:18 AM		#9 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	As I stated in a previous post, I did connect my tornado into in to the CPU fan sensor. The PC still did not boot. BigAkita, I can not get into the bios because the pc will reset a second after the Vapochill case reaches the defualt -5c. I am also hoping that I did not fry my XP2400. But its a possibility. Another thing the nags me in back of my mind is that my vaporchill unit came with two vapochill cards. One was already installed in the case. Maybe I should try swapping them and see if it will let me boot up.

25-October-03, 02:07 AM		#10 (permalink)
swanny321 Apex Tech Fanatic	well if u fried your XP2400 get and 2500 and get some real use outta that vapochill

25-October-03, 04:48 PM		#11 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	Actually, I was looking at a 3000xp. They are under 200 dollars now. I left my Vaporchill at the office, so I can't work on it this weekend. Its too heavy to carry back an forth.

25-October-03, 04:53 PM		#12 (permalink)
Chrome_Rust Apex Tech God	you dont want an XP 3000, they suck on OC headroom i know.....where do you work? in Wapak? just wondering

25-October-03, 05:20 PM		#13 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	Currently I work at Setex.. but I may get a job at Bright.net in Wapak soon.

25-October-03, 05:27 PM		#14 (permalink)
Chrome_Rust Apex Tech God	I applied there once. Setex that is.....I do alot of Bright.Net's Ft. Jennings local repair work. the DSL i have is BN bandwidth....

25-October-03, 05:49 PM		#15 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned	*Lets iron out the simple (but possible) mistakes:* Do you get any video at all on boot up? Are both the ATX 20-Pin and 4-Pin connectors hooked up to your motherboard? Does the GPU fan spinup? Does the HDD spinup? Any beep codes? If motherboard has two-digit diagnostic onboard; any codes? Tornado fans don't have RPM sensors to my knowledge, and PSU fans spin so slowly that they may not be detected so I suggest you hookup a standard 3-Pin fan with RPM sensor lead to the CPU_FAN header.

25-October-03, 08:03 PM		#16 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	No video will boot up. The 20 and 4 pins are connected directly to the chillcontrol card..from there the cable is connected to the motherboard. Otherwise, the pc would boot up and fry my cpu since the vapo will have no juice. The GPU fan does spin for one second. The HDD does spin No beep codes. My tornadoes do have a RPM sesnors that have 3 pin connector. I was able to monitor the speed on my previous setup in a normal case. Yes one was connected to the CPU_Fan header.

25-October-03, 10:15 PM		#17 (permalink)
HawkEye_Pierce Ham Op-Hoe-rator	Make sure the mobo is one that works with vapochill units. Some mobos WON'T, and have the same symptoms you are getting. What type of mobo do you have?

25-October-03, 10:18 PM		#18 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer	Re-mount the vaporizing arm on the CPU and try again. If that doesn't work I recommend trying the CPU in another rig. You just got lucky with the two cards.

26-October-03, 12:27 AM		#19 (permalink)
Crazy_J Apex Tech Demi-God	I have an Abit NF7 mobo. The vaporchill compatibility chart shows my mobo is compatible.

26-October-03, 02:31 AM		#20 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned	In a situation like this I would test every component, starting with cpu, in another system until I find the defective part. I'm leaning towards a defective or incorrectly installed vapochill.