Only took 1 day to kill my new Mobo...

$SOLID$ Necro · 25-July-03, 03:10 AM

Ahhh... been waiting for this new Abit Nf7 Mobo for a long time, picked very carefully after months of reading reviews, learning all I could about it, saving up...
Ordered it from NewEgg on a Thursday, so it didn't arrive till Mon, just before I went to work. Raced home from work, Installed it very carefully, after reading the manual all day at work. Ran into a few minor issues that were solved with the help of the forums here, and got it up and running finally on Wed after work.
Had to overclock it that night, just couldn't be happy till I did.

I work afternoons and get home a 12pm, and it was nearly 4 am, I still hadn't picked out my new memory, and I decided to see what thatt crap DDR333 ram I had would do, inching it up slowly. I hit the wall at 192FSB stock voltage, then l upped the voltage 1 notch to 2.7 and she hit 200!
My buddy gave me this Xp 2400 in a swap, and he hadn't got it past 2200 on water coolling on his older Mobo, so he went back to his Xp2100 that would go to 2300 for him.
It liked 200x10, then I went up slowly agian, benchmarking and checking temps, adjusting voltages well within the "safe" numbers I had written down earlier for just such an occasion...
I was surprised when I got a stable 200x11.5 (2300), My benchmarks were over a 100 points more than my buddies at this point, 1438 at pcpitstop and around 6800 on pcmark.

Then I got greedy!!!

I had been able to get a stable 2319 with a 192FSB earlier, before I had upped the voltages much, but I had to have 2400MHZ.. So I tried 200x12, and she crapped out just as windows finished booting.
It was now 6am, but I was so close, I bumped the voltage a hair on the cpu (1.775) and 2.8 to the memory.
She booted up fine!!! I was a Happy Camper!!! Temps were good after 15 min, then opened PCMark (was so close to 7000 before, I knew it could break it now...)
Then she crashed!!!!
Went into the usual recovery mode, cmos jumper for 30 sec, rebooted, then I knew I was in trouble...
Nothing, no bios, blank screen. nothing I tried worked.
Went to bed scolding myself...
Read away at the forums around the net today at work, found the insert key holding trick during boot, and It started showing a post screen!!!
I was dancin again!!! Unbelieving what I was seeing, since I watched another friend kill his bios before and never recovered it.
Time seemed to slow down as it did its usual checks, my finger ready to hit the delete key and get back into my bios.Then time stopped...
BIOS CHECKSUM ERROR -DEFUALTS LOADED!!!

Damn!!! I remember seeing plenty of forums with that error always end with "get an ABIT NF7 bios chip recovery kit from a online store for 16$"
There was a forum thread about downloading a bios to a floppy, renaming the bios to something else and reboot. You wait 4 minutes till it beeps and then the bios is reinstalled.
Just can't seem to find it again...

*EDIT* Found thread like it and will give it a try..
QUOTE:
1: get a blank floppy disk
2: download the bios u wish to flash to
3: extract the files to the floppy disk
4: make sure that awdflash.exe and the *.bin are on the disk
5: reboot with the disk in
6: hopefully watch it successfully flash.

I suppose I am not the only one who has been greedy here and pushed too hard, killing something 1 day after getting it up and running

Any help for a Pimp down on his luck????

Any way around a new Bios chip?, I will get one before I overclock again, I promise....LOL

ZENNZZO · 25-July-03, 03:59 AM

Welcome to my world...If it ain't broke I can still fix it.
There is nothing like voiding the warrenty on something that I haven't even plugged in once (ie 9500 non's, PSU,CPUs, mobos)
Brand New stuff can handle it better than brand old stuff!! LOL
You could always play like way n00bish and RMA it if nessasary.
Most important...sounds like you were having killer fun just before you were having "too" much fun.

..nice O/c's

AntiM · 25-July-03, 04:01 AM

http://www.sysopt.com/articles/recoverbios/

Try that.

$SOLID$ Necro · 25-July-03, 04:13 AM

Ha Ha! Got Soooo lucky! kept fiddlin, got my bios back, just hit delete key during power up and Bam! No bios reflash needed.
There is a Moral to the story: Everyone pushes it too hard at some point, so don't overclock without a backup plan...
Its my 100th post, suppose I should stop being a totally unprepared WNO (Wreckless Noob Overclocker) running naked!
What do you guys do before pushin for that last Mhz?
Notes are helpfull, and having a backup Bios is obvious at this point

ZENNZZO · 25-July-03, 04:21 AM

Sacrifice young virgins to the O/C gods...and keep MasterCard paid up and close to heart..(ie.hid from the warden)

AntiM · 25-July-03, 04:35 AM

Bios Savior

And that virgin thing is always good too.

Another trick is to move the jumper for 100-133/166 selection to the 100 setting then try booting. Lower the overclock then shutdown and put it back to 133/166.

$SOLID$ Necro · 25-July-03, 04:36 AM

those O/C Gods are demanding, but yet reward you if you pray as hard as I did today!

BTW I am posting from my STOCK 2400, I paid pennance by being stuck on my backup K6-2 500 and half dead 14 inch moniter and don't wish to anger the gods anymore for a while...

Thx for the help!

Banana Boy · 25-July-03, 05:24 AM

first time i got my Barton 2500+ i automatically tried for 2200mhz+ and had a no boot on my MSI KT4 Ultra, and it took me 10 minutes to figure out that all i had to do was reset CMOS and press delete when turning on the computer. I learned a valuable lesson from that. Glad everything of yours is working again. BTW, Nice motherboard.

$SOLID$ Necro · 25-July-03, 05:24 AM

AntiM,
Bios Savior is out of stock for now, Abit Nf7 must be very popular for them!
I like the Idea, looks better than the 16$ recovery kits that I was looking at that come with a tool and a flashed Nf7 Bios chip.
It's 32$ with shipping, so I am wondering what other advantages it might have, besides the speed of flipping a switch and not having to touch the Bios chip.
Trying to watch the budget (150 hidden from the "Warden" ZENNZZO! LOL)
That means less money towards the Geil Golden Dragon ram I plan on ordering soon.
I can trade a little speed for something that is gonna save me headaches in the long run

Banana Boy,
I love this thing! Everyone here raves about them! Best I ever got out of my old Asus A7S333 POS was 2140, had terrible bios options, no voltage adj. Best 123 bucks I ever spent!

Banana Boy · 25-July-03, 05:31 AM

the "Warden" has taken wayyyyyy too much of my money. I don't like him.

Yeah I want an Abit motherboard so bad. Problem is I want dual channel DDR, and 4xIDE133 connectors. I dont want SATA I just want ATA. do they make such a thing?

$SOLID$ Necro · 25-July-03, 05:42 AM

I think the plain NF7 does, I got the S version for the Killer audio, and possible upgrade when Sata prices drop.
Check it out here:Nf7

Evileagle · 25-July-03, 07:44 PM

The only nf2 boards that have 4 ide ports are the dfi lan party (nf2 version), the gigabyte 7n400 pro and the gigabyte 7nnxp.

AntiM · 25-July-03, 08:20 PM

$SOLID$ Necro,

PCmods and highspeedPC sell the Bios Savior as well. I haven't needed it on my NF7-S, but it's nice to know it's there. And a dual bios comes in handy. If you don't like something about a new bios, flip a switch and you're back to your old one.

25-July-03, 03:10 AM		#1 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker	Only took 1 day to kill my new Mobo... Ahhh... been waiting for this new Abit Nf7 Mobo for a long time, picked very carefully after months of reading reviews, learning all I could about it, saving up... Ordered it from NewEgg on a Thursday, so it didn't arrive till Mon, just before I went to work. Raced home from work, Installed it very carefully, after reading the manual all day at work. Ran into a few minor issues that were solved with the help of the forums here, and got it up and running finally on Wed after work. Had to overclock it that night, just couldn't be happy till I did. I work afternoons and get home a 12pm, and it was nearly 4 am, I still hadn't picked out my new memory, and I decided to see what thatt crap DDR333 ram I had would do, inching it up slowly. I hit the wall at 192FSB stock voltage, then l upped the voltage 1 notch to 2.7 and she hit 200! My buddy gave me this Xp 2400 in a swap, and he hadn't got it past 2200 on water coolling on his older Mobo, so he went back to his Xp2100 that would go to 2300 for him. It liked 200x10, then I went up slowly agian, benchmarking and checking temps, adjusting voltages well within the "safe" numbers I had written down earlier for just such an occasion... I was surprised when I got a stable 200x11.5 (2300), My benchmarks were over a 100 points more than my buddies at this point, 1438 at pcpitstop and around 6800 on pcmark. Then I got greedy!!! I had been able to get a stable 2319 with a 192FSB earlier, before I had upped the voltages much, but I had to have 2400MHZ.. So I tried 200x12, and she crapped out just as windows finished booting. It was now 6am, but I was so close, I bumped the voltage a hair on the cpu (1.775) and 2.8 to the memory. She booted up fine!!! I was a Happy Camper!!! Temps were good after 15 min, then opened PCMark (was so close to 7000 before, I knew it could break it now...) Then she crashed!!!! Went into the usual recovery mode, cmos jumper for 30 sec, rebooted, then I knew I was in trouble... Nothing, no bios, blank screen. nothing I tried worked. Went to bed scolding myself... Read away at the forums around the net today at work, found the insert key holding trick during boot, and It started showing a post screen!!! I was dancin again!!! Unbelieving what I was seeing, since I watched another friend kill his bios before and never recovered it. Time seemed to slow down as it did its usual checks, my finger ready to hit the delete key and get back into my bios.Then time stopped... BIOS CHECKSUM ERROR -DEFUALTS LOADED!!! Damn!!! I remember seeing plenty of forums with that error always end with "get an ABIT NF7 bios chip recovery kit from a online store for 16$" There was a forum thread about downloading a bios to a floppy, renaming the bios to something else and reboot. You wait 4 minutes till it beeps and then the bios is reinstalled. Just can't seem to find it again... EDIT Found thread like it and will give it a try.. QUOTE: 1: get a blank floppy disk 2: download the bios u wish to flash to 3: extract the files to the floppy disk 4: make sure that awdflash.exe and the .bin are on the disk 5: reboot with the disk in 6: hopefully watch it successfully flash. I suppose I am not the only one who has been greedy here and pushed too hard, killing something 1 day after getting it up and running Any help for a Pimp down on his luck???? Any way around a new Bios chip?, I will get one before I overclock again, I promise....LOL Last edited by $SOLID$ Necro; 25-July-03 at 05:33 AM..*

25-July-03, 05:24 AM		#9 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker	AntiM, Bios Savior is out of stock for now, Abit Nf7 must be very popular for them! I like the Idea, looks better than the 16$ recovery kits that I was looking at that come with a tool and a flashed Nf7 Bios chip. It's 32$ with shipping, so I am wondering what other advantages it might have, besides the speed of flipping a switch and not having to touch the Bios chip. Trying to watch the budget (150 hidden from the "Warden" ZENNZZO! LOL) That means less money towards the Geil Golden Dragon ram I plan on ordering soon. I can trade a little speed for something that is gonna save me headaches in the long run Banana Boy, I love this thing! Everyone here raves about them! Best I ever got out of my old Asus A7S333 POS was 2140, had terrible bios options, no voltage adj. Best 123 bucks I ever spent! Last edited by $SOLID$ Necro; 25-July-03 at 05:30 AM..

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25-July-03, 03:59 AM		#2 (permalink)
ZENNZZO Direct Cool Hoe	Welcome to my world...If it ain't broke I can still fix it. There is nothing like voiding the warrenty on something that I haven't even plugged in once (ie 9500 non's, PSU,CPUs, mobos) Brand New stuff can handle it better than brand old stuff!! LOL You could always play like way n00bish and RMA it if nessasary. Most important...sounds like you were having killer fun just before you were having "too" much fun. ..nice O/c's

25-July-03, 04:01 AM		#3 (permalink)
AntiM Aqua Pimp	http://www.sysopt.com/articles/recoverbios/ Try that.

25-July-03, 04:13 AM		#4 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker	Ha Ha! Got Soooo lucky! kept fiddlin, got my bios back, just hit delete key during power up and Bam! No bios reflash needed. There is a Moral to the story: Everyone pushes it too hard at some point, so don't overclock without a backup plan... Its my 100th post, suppose I should stop being a totally unprepared WNO (Wreckless Noob Overclocker) running naked! What do you guys do before pushin for that last Mhz? Notes are helpfull, and having a backup Bios is obvious at this point

25-July-03, 04:21 AM		#5 (permalink)
ZENNZZO Direct Cool Hoe	Sacrifice young virgins to the O/C gods...and keep MasterCard paid up and close to heart..(ie.hid from the warden)

25-July-03, 04:35 AM		#6 (permalink)
AntiM Aqua Pimp	Bios Savior And that virgin thing is always good too. Another trick is to move the jumper for 100-133/166 selection to the 100 setting then try booting. Lower the overclock then shutdown and put it back to 133/166.

25-July-03, 04:36 AM		#7 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker	those O/C Gods are demanding, but yet reward you if you pray as hard as I did today! BTW I am posting from my STOCK 2400, I paid pennance by being stuck on my backup K6-2 500 and half dead 14 inch moniter and don't wish to anger the gods anymore for a while... Thx for the help!

25-July-03, 05:24 AM		#8 (permalink)
Banana Boy Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	first time i got my Barton 2500+ i automatically tried for 2200mhz+ and had a no boot on my MSI KT4 Ultra, and it took me 10 minutes to figure out that all i had to do was reset CMOS and press delete when turning on the computer. I learned a valuable lesson from that. Glad everything of yours is working again. BTW, Nice motherboard.

25-July-03, 05:31 AM		#10 (permalink)
Banana Boy Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	the "Warden" has taken wayyyyyy too much of my money. I don't like him. Yeah I want an Abit motherboard so bad. Problem is I want dual channel DDR, and 4xIDE133 connectors. I dont want SATA I just want ATA. do they make such a thing?

25-July-03, 05:42 AM		#11 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker	I think the plain NF7 does, I got the S version for the Killer audio, and possible upgrade when Sata prices drop. Check it out here:Nf7

25-July-03, 07:44 PM		#12 (permalink)
Evileagle Apex Master Tech Apprentice	The only nf2 boards that have 4 ide ports are the dfi lan party (nf2 version), the gigabyte 7n400 pro and the gigabyte 7nnxp.

25-July-03, 08:20 PM		#13 (permalink)
AntiM Aqua Pimp	$SOLID$ Necro, PCmods and highspeedPC sell the Bios Savior as well. I haven't needed it on my NF7-S, but it's nice to know it's there. And a dual bios comes in handy. If you don't like something about a new bios, flip a switch and you're back to your old one.