Is it the chicken or the egg? (Maybe thr rooster)

aldad · 18-July-03, 07:01 PM

I have a MSI kt3 Ultra MoBo with Athlon 1800 XP CPU (AMI Bios, Raid, DDR, Radeon 7500) running Win2000 (not clean install). All PCAlert gages look ok.. Fans work. At this point locks up haphazardly - after several hours or during the boot-up process; has to be reset and always asks for disk check. Occasionally resets by itself.
I ran all windows upgrades, loaded the latest video, via, codec, you have it drivers, flushed the bios once (MSI posted the latest Bios, but it is not set up for flush). Fixed a known conflict (OS) related in the AGP aperture, both in Bios and registry, lately i noticed the monitor needed its own driver. Frequently jump cleared the CMOS (recommended in manual in case system becomes unstable - one extra notch for the MoBO being the culprit.)
At one point it seemed to occur while on the NET (right now I'm afraid I'll lose all my typing). Then I realized that's because of the time spent.
Someone out there must have an inkling - is it the MB or the CPU? (Hey, maybe the OS!). I wouldn't mind sheding $30 to 50 for a new MB, only if I knew it.)
(PS - I forgot the memory, why not!)

Buzz_4_20 · 18-July-03, 07:13 PM

do you have a netgear fa311?

aldad · 18-July-03, 10:26 PM

No, the Device Manager reads "Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC", and is not on (not enabled) anyway.

piscikeeper · 18-July-03, 11:07 PM

are you running pc 2100 with fsb@150 or higher and stock multi(11.5)?
another question is if pc alert is version 3 or 4.i've had no problems from 3,but upgrade to 4 and..........

Joose · 22-July-03, 02:28 PM

are you overclocking it at all? If you have been for a while, it could bee that one of your components are nearing end-of-life...likely RAM or motherboard...

Do you have extra RAM? (or can you borrow it from a friend or computer store) Try swapping it out and running with known good RAM. If the problem persists, then you can at least eliminate that...

Also, what size/kind of power supply are you running?

Banana Boy · 22-July-03, 02:52 PM

I had the same board but the KT3 Ultra2. Wickedass board. It's one of three things thats causing this. Your RAM is flaky and dying, your overclocking it too far, or your PSU isn't up to the job. I used to have random reboots until I replaced my PSU to a 365watt PSU. I now run a 465 watt PSU now though.

aldad · 04-August-03, 01:00 PM

Thanks everybody for the effort and hints offered. The following happened:
As the ones running Windows 2000 know by now, out came Service Pack 4. They also know that actually doesn't work as supposed to, and in most cases the installation is not completed, and dire warnings prompt the user to abort installation under threat of lost data etc., or else.
I did not cancel it anyway. Guess what? Once restarted (then shut off, then restarted..) the system did lock up maybe once every two or three days, instead of a few times every hour!
By now I am pretty sure the culprit was Service Pack 3, and in hindsight I shuld have guessed from the randomness of it that was a software glitch.
Again, thanks everybody (with my fingers crossed).

18-July-03, 07:01 PM		#1 (permalink)
aldad Apex Techie Wannabe	Is it the chicken or the egg? (Maybe thr rooster) I have a MSI kt3 Ultra MoBo with Athlon 1800 XP CPU (AMI Bios, Raid, DDR, Radeon 7500) running Win2000 (not clean install). All PCAlert gages look ok.. Fans work. At this point locks up haphazardly - after several hours or during the boot-up process; has to be reset and always asks for disk check. Occasionally resets by itself. I ran all windows upgrades, loaded the latest video, via, codec, you have it drivers, flushed the bios once (MSI posted the latest Bios, but it is not set up for flush). Fixed a known conflict (OS) related in the AGP aperture, both in Bios and registry, lately i noticed the monitor needed its own driver. Frequently jump cleared the CMOS (recommended in manual in case system becomes unstable - one extra notch for the MoBO being the culprit.) At one point it seemed to occur while on the NET (right now I'm afraid I'll lose all my typing). Then I realized that's because of the time spent. Someone out there must have an inkling - is it the MB or the CPU? (Hey, maybe the OS!). I wouldn't mind sheding $30 to 50 for a new MB, only if I knew it.) (PS - I forgot the memory, why not!)

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18-July-03, 07:13 PM		#2 (permalink)
Buzz_4_20 Apex Elite Tech	do you have a netgear fa311?

18-July-03, 10:26 PM		#3 (permalink)
aldad Apex Techie Wannabe	No, the Device Manager reads "Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC", and is not on (not enabled) anyway.

18-July-03, 11:07 PM		#4 (permalink)
piscikeeper Apex Tech Fanatic	are you running pc 2100 with fsb@150 or higher and stock multi(11.5)? another question is if pc alert is version 3 or 4.i've had no problems from 3,but upgrade to 4 and..........

22-July-03, 02:28 PM		#5 (permalink)
Joose Joosey	are you overclocking it at all? If you have been for a while, it could bee that one of your components are nearing end-of-life...likely RAM or motherboard... Do you have extra RAM? (or can you borrow it from a friend or computer store) Try swapping it out and running with known good RAM. If the problem persists, then you can at least eliminate that... Also, what size/kind of power supply are you running?

22-July-03, 02:52 PM		#6 (permalink)
Banana Boy Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	I had the same board but the KT3 Ultra2. Wickedass board. It's one of three things thats causing this. Your RAM is flaky and dying, your overclocking it too far, or your PSU isn't up to the job. I used to have random reboots until I replaced my PSU to a 365watt PSU. I now run a 465 watt PSU now though.

04-August-03, 01:00 PM		#7 (permalink)
aldad Apex Techie Wannabe	Thanks everybody for the effort and hints offered. The following happened: As the ones running Windows 2000 know by now, out came Service Pack 4. They also know that actually doesn't work as supposed to, and in most cases the installation is not completed, and dire warnings prompt the user to abort installation under threat of lost data etc., or else. I did not cancel it anyway. Guess what? Once restarted (then shut off, then restarted..) the system did lock up maybe once every two or three days, instead of a few times every hour! By now I am pretty sure the culprit was Service Pack 3, and in hindsight I shuld have guessed from the randomness of it that was a software glitch. Again, thanks everybody (with my fingers crossed).