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Old 03-May-06, 11:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Int-HELL Mobo - Calling all PCA'rs for some help

I got twin boards here in my shop , both made by Intel , spec's as follows, just from looking at them

ATX skt 478
4 dimm slots DDR
2x IDE
1x Floppy
2x SATA
1x AGP
5x PCI
ms/kb/usb/nic/nic/printer/sound all onboard

Also apprears to have an onboard power and reset button
has 2 leds for post codes ( the kind that show numbers )

Cant tell about the N/B chip, as its under a HS, the S/B is
Intel
Secret
FW82801DB
L214IX3Q
QC97ES

BIOS Chip
Intel
N82802AB8
A2200235

and lastly the only markings on the board , a bar code sticker with the following
- INNG22700277 AA A62469-401

The problem i'm having is that I cannot find out one single thing about this board from ANYWHERE. I looked through the Intel site, searched google ( only found two hits ) looked at Dell , Compaq , nothing

Its as if this board doesnt exist, i'm needing some help , cus the board powers up for like 10sec then shuts down , no matter what I try, clearing BIOS , new battery, only have CPU and one ram stick installed

P4 1.6GHz
Bufflo 512 DDR 2700

So , i'm wondering if anyone has run across this board or knows of this phantom Intel Mobo, I'd kinda like to get it up and running , it looks like it would be a good board, and from the SATA and led's for post codes, a newer type board.
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Old 03-May-06, 12:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can't help you with info about the board, but I can offer ideas as to how to get it up and running.
First I am assuming that these are engineering samples so they may be designed to work with very specific hardware. Another assumption is that they are suppose to monitor health differently than a standard mobo.
I would try to fire it up with a PCI video card. Another thing is that it may have a problem with the CPU fan- it may be reading the wrong speed and that's why it's shutting down - make sure that the fan's speed signal is correct. Another option is that it may be reading the wrong temp - does it have a diode in the middle of the socket?

I hope that my ideas set you in the right path.

Good luck Mace.
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Old 03-May-06, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What's going on HTRN. I was doing some research into the board, and your right, it's a phantom alright. The only thing I've been able to come up with is that it was a developers board, and that you might be running the wrong proc on it. The developers board that I found that even matched this one slightly was one running an Intel Pentium M (400mhz FSB, 1.6GHz) with Intel 885GME and Intel FW82801DB developement kit. I found this info here. As well, I manged to find someone else who was running into the same problem with this board over at Wim's Bios about 2 years ago.

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From Wim's Bios post Sounds like a workstation board and Intel didn't release a retail board with the 7205 chipset AFAIK. So we're looking at an OEM product here, Dell, Compaq, Gateway maybe MicronPC. Let's hear it...

I know this doesn't help much, but hopefully some of the info I managed to pull wasn't something that you've already found. Hope this helps one way or another.

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Old 03-May-06, 02:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't know if this helps you 'mate but here it goes;
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-010687.htm

Hopefully this will shed some light on this "oddity"...

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Old 03-May-06, 05:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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well... powering up and then off a few seconds later...

i would place my money on a couple things...

heat... is the proc getting hot?

power... swap the power supply...

unplug all hdd/floppy/cd and fans from the motherboard.... same thing happen?
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Old 04-May-06, 12:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, i got an E-mail from Intel about the board , and heres what they said,
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Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Technical Support.

The information you have provided indicates that this is a Third-Party
product, which may contain an OEM version of an Intel(R) Chipset.
Several system manufacturers integrate an OEM version of a particular
Intel(R) Chipset into their system designs, which are then incorporated
with other system components, such as power supplies, disk drives, add
in cards, software, etc.

These systems are customized according to the specifications of the card
manufacturer. Please contact the manufacturer or place of purchase for
support, as they are familiar with the total configuration of your
integrated system and the way all the features interact with each other.
Intel is precluded from providing support for these systems.

NOTE: Intel(R) Technical Support is able to provide assistance in issues
that deal with Boxed Intel(R) Server products, only. Moreover, we are
precluded from dealing with issues related to third party system boards.

Thank you for your comprehension.

Regards,

Luis Pablo S.

Now I know im not the sharpest tack in the box, but correct me if im wrong, if the board CLEARLY has INTEL silk screened on it then its NOT a third party board, its an INTEL board..........

so basiclly , they dont know jack $h(T

Oh and thanks for all the tips on what to try, I'm gonna play with the two boards tonight or tommorow and I'll let ya know if I get one fired up. BTW , there's a little plug connector just above the agp slot, its 10 pin (2 rows of 5 ) and is female ( like the ends of an ide cable ) anyone know what this might be for ?? not that it matters , just curious is all.
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Old 04-May-06, 01:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, i got an E-mail from Intel about the board , and heres what they said,


Now I know im not the sharpest tack in the box, but correct me if im wrong, if the board CLEARLY has INTEL silk screened on it then its NOT a third party board, its an INTEL board..........

so basiclly , they dont know jack $h(T

Oh and thanks for all the tips on what to try, I'm gonna play with the two boards tonight or tommorow and I'll let ya know if I get one fired up. BTW , there's a little plug connector just above the agp slot, its 10 pin (2 rows of 5 ) and is female ( like the ends of an ide cable ) anyone know what this might be for ?? not that it matters , just curious is all.

can ya send us a pic of the mb?
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Old 04-May-06, 06:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I guess it's time to pop the NB heatsink and figure out what's hiding there.
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Old 04-May-06, 09:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I guess it's time to pop the NB heatsink and figure out what's hiding there.

BUT BUT BUT thats like actually working .

Yeah , im gonna do that next, update though, I got them both to fire up and stay on ....... no video though and i get a post code 23 from the led display , no beep code.

I can now power them up and off, so im gettin closer.........

will post up some pics soon ............
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Old 04-May-06, 09:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Just a shot in the dark, but is this the board?
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Old 04-May-06, 11:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Nope , thanks for the try, but this is a skt478 full atx , im gonna get pic's but my lovely , sweet, darling, daughters LOST MY CAMERA !!!!!!!!!! so it might be tommorow.

EDIT : Ok here's the numbers on the N/B , it looks just like a skt370 cpu only a bit smaller
( and i actually had to get a magnifying glass to read it, ..........i'm gettin OLD!!!! )

RGE7205MC
QD43 ES
X226824Q

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Old 05-May-06, 04:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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hey man cant help with the real problem unfortunatly but i think the female socket your refering to on the motherboard is either for the case usb sockets or audio, as i know many manufacturers such as msi now use this kind of socket.


hope you get it sorted m8

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Old 05-May-06, 05:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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They all look like pata ones to me , but its worth you having a look.

http://indigo.intel.com/mbsg/results...0&aryAttrID=91
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Old 05-May-06, 08:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
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http://www.plasma-online.de/index.ht...ure/intel.html

have fun in this site =) you may find what you are lookig for


Bing Bing Bing... Tell Johnny what he has won:

http://www.motherboards.org/articles...ws/1194_1.html



Intel D845EBT
Board Revision Preproduction Sample
BIOS Version BT84510A.86A.0007.P05 5 Aug 2002
Default Clock Speed (MHz) 2000
North Bridge Intel 82845E
South Bridge Intel 82801DB
Number of PCI slots 5
Memory type DDR200/266
Number of memory slots 2
Maximum Memory (GB) 2
Universal AGP support * N/A
AGP Pro Support N/A
Number of Physical USB 1.1 ports ** 0
Number of Physical USB 2.0 ports ** 4
Active Cooling on Chipset N/A
Adjustable AGP Voltage N/A
Adjustable Memory voltage N/A
Southbridge UDMA 133 Support N/A
IDE or RAID Controller other than Southbridge Promise PDC20267 UDMA 100 RAID
Auto speed-down/shutdown on fan failure N/A
Auto speed-down/shutdown on heat alarm N/A
On-board Sound AC97 Analog Devices Sound Max Cadenza Six-Channel Audio
On-board LAN Intel 82562ET 10/100

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Old 05-May-06, 05:15 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Close TK , but no cigar, I found that one too but its not the same .
Here are a few pics of the mobo . I have a feeling this takes REG/ECC ram , but I dont have any ATM.

N/B Chip

LED and Power / reset buttons

AGP ?? slot and plug just above it

I/O ports
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Old 06-May-06, 01:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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nothing look good on my link?
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Old 06-May-06, 01:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The number on the NB - 7205 - it is a server chipset - I think that you are right and you need reg+ecc RAM.
It may have came from an Intel server, that's why they are saying it's OEM.
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Old 06-May-06, 01:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hello HTRN, sorry i am late on getting to answer this question i will try to help if i can, I ask a dear friend of mine who also has been building computers for about 20 years now, i sent him some of the pictures of the MB and he said to me that INTEL did make those MB but they where made for a third party server , such as Compact, HP ETC, and that those MB even though they had there logo on them they did not support them, Which he said the same thing you said It is totally BS ,if they have there logo imbedded into them and sold them they should support there products, He also told me It is kind of like buying parts for a Chevy,Ford ETC. you could buy parts but does not mean there where made by the company even though it might say Chevy,Ford ETC.on them.
PS, I am glad to see that you where able to at least get them up and running.
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Old 06-May-06, 04:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info Ranger , I kinda suspected that was the case, glad to hear your friend confirm the fact .

And thanks PD , for confirming the server chipset fact.

And lastly , thanks to everyone that has helped me in unmasking theze phantom boards, I'm gettin' in some ECC/Reg ram next week so I'll keep ya posted.
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Thanks for the info Ranger , I kinda suspected that was the case, glad to hear your friend confirm the fact .

And thanks PD , for confirming the server chipset fact.

And lastly , thanks to everyone that has helped me in unmasking theze phantom boards, I'm gettin' in some ECC/Reg ram next week so I'll keep ya posted.

You are very welcome HTRN, anything to try and help out someone like you exspecialy when you help me out so much.
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