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Old 22-June-03, 05:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an antec 1080b case and with that case came two usb ports and a firewire port. I am trying to connect the firewire to the board and the board has pins for 10 wires and the cable that came with my case only has 6 wires.

heres the board layout

1- tpa+
2- tpa-
3- gnd
4- gnd
5- tpb+
6- tpb-
7- +12v
8- +12v
9- no pin
10- gnd

The wire that came with my case has
tpa+
tpa-
tpb+
tpb-
vp
vg

so can this work?? and what do i do with the vp and vg wires??
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Old 22-June-03, 05:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The vp and vg wires are the power and ground wires. just put them in the appropiate places.

vp = power

vg = ground
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Old 22-June-03, 05:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thats what i thought but wanted to make sure so i didn't have to do this again.

also, with the usb i am going to assume that VCC0 is the power cord (i have another wire from the case for usb) the case wire says +5v
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Old 22-June-03, 05:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's been a while since i put my system together, but that sounds right to me.
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Old 22-June-03, 05:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it makes sense cause its the only wire left but i was just making sure.

thanks
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Old 22-June-03, 10:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ok, i got my rig assembled and pressed the power button ...... nothing. Not a damn thing.

The only thing i can get it to do is to have the red led light up when i plug the power cord in.

any clues as to what i am doing wrong??
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Old 22-June-03, 10:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Flip the power switch header around?

Or maybe you have it on the wrong pins?
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Old 22-June-03, 10:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Isnt a Red LED motherboard diagnostic light indicating a problem? Check manual for light color = ____ code legend.
Cap-Flash your PSU and unplug all but the ATX mainboard plug and your primary hard drive molex connector and attempt to boot.
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Old 22-June-03, 11:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i tried flipping the switch header around, and i am almost sure that i have it on the right pins. Right now i only have my agp, floppy, hard drives IDE (hooked up with converters to sata) and cd drives plugged into ide socket 2 (nothing in socket one)

i can't find out what that red led light means


whats cap flash??
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Old 22-June-03, 11:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Unplug the power cable from the PSU, Hold down the power button for 15sec.
Plug the cable back in, then back out, 5 times, and take 2 second pauses between each plug in/out.
Then boot up the system.
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Old 22-June-03, 11:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ok, with a power switch having the cables the right way doesn't matter, it isn't a diode.

If the red LED lights up after the switch is turned on it must mean something is working and something else is the issue.

Try changing the ram around, does the speaker beep at all? Try reseating everything, see if it's a loose connections
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Old 22-June-03, 11:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hmm, i am pretty sure that the memory is seated in there properly and to take it out means that i have to take the vid card out so its a huge pain in my ass.

but i just don't understand why nothing happens when i press the power button.
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Old 22-June-03, 11:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The red led just means your board has power. Nothing more. Is this a new case and board or one that has been working?
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Old 23-June-03, 12:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Oh, make sure the board isn't grounded on the case. That could cause it to just not do anything. And take the effort to make sure everything is seated. it's worth it. And try other ram if you have it
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Old 23-June-03, 12:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
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heres something else i've noticed is that when i plugged the power cord from the psu into my power strip a little light on the power strip for ground lights up. Does this mean my mobo is improperly grounded??

if so how can i fix it. The manual didn't say anthing other than using studs.
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Old 23-June-03, 12:24 AM   #16 (permalink)
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new mobo, but i mounted this board the same way i did my other soyo (well my soyo said to put a plastic spacer in but abit didn't say so and theres no space for it) I have the board connected to 4 studs and the several other studs placed where the motherboard has the screw holes (but i don't have those screwed in)

again, how do i tell if the boards shorted, and how would i fix it.
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Old 23-June-03, 12:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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you can tell if the board is shorted is if the metal studs touch and metal part of the mobo. use those plastic spacers if you can at all. And the grounded on the power strip indicates that the powerstrip is grounded, which is a good thing
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Old 23-June-03, 01:23 AM   #18 (permalink)
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well i guess i'm kinda confused because wouldn't the board have to touch the studs??? and why would the manual say that useing studs is the best way??
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Old 23-June-03, 01:28 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I agree it sounds like your grounded somewhere. It's a pain, but I'd probably pull everything out and start again with just a vid card, ram and a boot drive connected to an IDE port. Not the SATA. All it would take is a loose screw or something behind the mobo to ground it out.

Edit: The holes for the studs are isolated from making electrical contact with the board components. I'd use screws in all available studs, not just 4. It may be shifted just enough to ground on something.
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Old 23-June-03, 01:41 AM   #20 (permalink)
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i only have 4 screws that will work with the studs.

thinking about this, i can't find anything that would short the board. It would have to be something that is in contact with the mobo (non grounded part) and in contact with the case right??

I have noticed that i have never been able to screw the screws into the studs completly. Is this why you use the spacers so that they push the board away from the studs and the rest of the case?? and do you just put the spacers through any screw hole (I am asking cause on my kt333 there was a special hole for a spacer.

o, that ground light on the surge protector is only on when i plug the computer into it. when the computer is not plugged in the ground light isn't on.

i have the surge protector plugged into the wall with one of those 3 to 2 prong adaptors and normally and its just plugged into a 3 prong wall outlet the ground light lights up.

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