Going Insane need fresh help!

DuckWarrior · 03-July-05, 01:30 PM

I'm seriously going insane. This is irritating me to no end.
My motherboard will not let me recognize my HDD
My temperatures went through the roof after a bios update.

I will post my specs then describe the fiasco so far.

ABIT AN7 board with a Athlon XP +3000 Barton core
1 gig Corsair Ram
2x120 gig SATA HDDs in Raid 0
Win XP Pro
trying to add a Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB PATA HDD in

I have had a 10 gig IDE HDD in the computer, just for Ghost backup image.
Well my 240 gigs SATA RAIDed drives have been getting smaller and smaller. So, why not put an IDE 300 gb hdd in replacement of the 10 gig...or so I thought.

Here is what has happened, IF I go into the bios and change the setting to recognize the drive, it does. However after loading up the Raid drives, I get :
"Diskboot Failure, insert system Disk & press Enter"....so it wont boot up.
IF I set the drive in the bios NOT to recognize the drive it WILL boot but when I am in the Disk Management area, withing windows and then click on the drive that IS recognized there, I select it to intitialize yet it WONT, even if I select it. So it wont recognize the drive even if windows sees it!

I updated the BIOS and nothing has changed in terms of the ability have an IDE drive, BUT!
My temperatures have nearly DOUBLED! I was running at about 38C Overclocked, Now without ANY over clock at all, I'm runing at 63C.
This is just insane.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.

LwrS10 · 03-July-05, 01:43 PM

dude call me---thats the same problem i hd for a while........

DuckWarrior · 03-July-05, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LwrS10


	dude call me---thats the same problem i hd for a while........

Where was your help yesterday when I asked you?...

Slaymate · 03-July-05, 01:49 PM

It sounds like it's all Bios related. Either the new Bios has seriously been updated to cause the false readings or they've been wrong all along. Or the new Bios may be for the wrong version of your motherboard. Though it is usually impossible to flash a bios with the wrong file and have it post . You probably need a better heatsink. As for your hard drive problem, your board may not support a 300 GB Drive. They are fairly new and your board is fairly old (close to obsolete).

jcarkeys · 03-July-05, 02:14 PM

Ok, well, I'm gonna go through all the routine crap first.
1. Did you make sure to reset all the settings in the BIOS since you flashed? IE, boot order to SATA first instead of IDE.
2. IDE drive set to cable select on the first IDE channel.
3. Did you check to see if the RAID initialization hardware was altered during the BIOS flash? I don't know why, but it might've lost the RAID configuration. Try and reset that if possible.
4. Have you tried flashing your BIOS back to an older version?
5. Try running a Windows repair install on the thing. Insert disk, hit F6 and do the drivers, hit R to repair, then try doing (I think these are the commands) fixmbr and there's another one I can't remember. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this, but I had a "Diskboot Failure, insert system Disk & press Enter" error and did fixmbr or the equivalent and another similar to it and it worked afterwards.

Good luck

DuckWarrior · 03-July-05, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcarkeys


	Ok, well, I'm gonna go through all the routine crap first. 1. Did you make sure to reset all the settings in the BIOS since you flashed? IE, boot order to SATA first instead of IDE. 2. IDE drive set to cable select on the first IDE channel. 3. Did you check to see if the RAID initialization hardware was altered during the BIOS flash? I don't know why, but it might've lost the RAID configuration. Try and reset that if possible. 4. Have you tried flashing your BIOS back to an older version? 5. Try running a Windows repair install on the thing. Insert disk, hit F6 and do the drivers, hit R to repair, then try doing (I think these are the commands) fixmbr and there's another one I can't remember. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this, but I had a "Diskboot Failure, insert system Disk & press Enter" error and did fixmbr or the equivalent and another similar to it and it worked afterwards. Good luck

Thanx for the assistance guys....
In Reply:
1 yes went through it all, did forget one, but Lwrs10 got me back on track. (prioritization)
2 Actually I'm pretty sure I tried master, slave and cable select
3 No, I dont know if it was altered, but it works because without the IDE drive I have windows
4 No on the backtrack...yet. With these temps I'm running you bet I'm putting it back
5 Dont know if I need to go as far as that...yet

To refine. I still cannot initialize the disk...damn thing
I have raid no problem but it just doesnt want to let me initialize/ use the IDE drive
Booting is no longer a problem, the temps and the drive are still...
Could it be the board wont let you do both? Just one or the other?

LwrS10 · 03-July-05, 05:52 PM

dude you have ide raid turned on in bios. ill walk you thru it to turn it off--just call me. windows does the same thing to me if i raid ide drives----i have to do dynamic disk thru windows to raid em if i want to. in my bios you have to turn ide raid on to do sata raid, reboot, then make the raid array. then reboot, go into bios, turn off the induvidual ide channel raid. then you have to set yout boot priority, then set the boot disk priority.

ill walk you thru it if you want.....

03-July-05, 01:30 PM		#1 (permalink)
DuckWarrior Retired Admin In Charge of Death and Destruction to All those Who Oppose My World known as PimpRig	Going Insane need fresh help! I'm seriously going insane. This is irritating me to no end. My motherboard will not let me recognize my HDD My temperatures went through the roof after a bios update. I will post my specs then describe the fiasco so far. ABIT AN7 board with a Athlon XP +3000 Barton core 1 gig Corsair Ram 2x120 gig SATA HDDs in Raid 0 Win XP Pro trying to add a Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB PATA HDD in I have had a 10 gig IDE HDD in the computer, just for Ghost backup image. Well my 240 gigs SATA RAIDed drives have been getting smaller and smaller. So, why not put an IDE 300 gb hdd in replacement of the 10 gig...or so I thought. Here is what has happened, IF I go into the bios and change the setting to recognize the drive, it does. However after loading up the Raid drives, I get : "Diskboot Failure, insert system Disk & press Enter"....so it wont boot up. IF I set the drive in the bios NOT to recognize the drive it WILL boot but when I am in the Disk Management area, withing windows and then click on the drive that IS recognized there, I select it to intitialize yet it WONT, even if I select it. So it wont recognize the drive even if windows sees it! I updated the BIOS and nothing has changed in terms of the ability have an IDE drive, BUT! My temperatures have nearly DOUBLED! I was running at about 38C Overclocked, Now without ANY over clock at all, I'm runing at 63C. This is just insane. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

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03-July-05, 01:43 PM		#2 (permalink)
LwrS10 C-hoe-bra Joe	dude call me---thats the same problem i hd for a while........

03-July-05, 01:49 PM		#4 (permalink)
Slaymate PCApex Reviewer From Hell	It sounds like it's all Bios related. Either the new Bios has seriously been updated to cause the false readings or they've been wrong all along. Or the new Bios may be for the wrong version of your motherboard. Though it is usually impossible to flash a bios with the wrong file and have it post . You probably need a better heatsink. As for your hard drive problem, your board may not support a 300 GB Drive. They are fairly new and your board is fairly old (close to obsolete).

03-July-05, 02:14 PM		#5 (permalink)
jcarkeys Key Hoe	Ok, well, I'm gonna go through all the routine crap first. 1. Did you make sure to reset all the settings in the BIOS since you flashed? IE, boot order to SATA first instead of IDE. 2. IDE drive set to cable select on the first IDE channel. 3. Did you check to see if the RAID initialization hardware was altered during the BIOS flash? I don't know why, but it might've lost the RAID configuration. Try and reset that if possible. 4. Have you tried flashing your BIOS back to an older version? 5. Try running a Windows repair install on the thing. Insert disk, hit F6 and do the drivers, hit R to repair, then try doing (I think these are the commands) fixmbr and there's another one I can't remember. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this, but I had a "Diskboot Failure, insert system Disk & press Enter" error and did fixmbr or the equivalent and another similar to it and it worked afterwards. Good luck

03-July-05, 05:52 PM		#7 (permalink)
LwrS10 C-hoe-bra Joe	dude you have ide raid turned on in bios. ill walk you thru it to turn it off--just call me. windows does the same thing to me if i raid ide drives----i have to do dynamic disk thru windows to raid em if i want to. in my bios you have to turn ide raid on to do sata raid, reboot, then make the raid array. then reboot, go into bios, turn off the induvidual ide channel raid. then you have to set yout boot priority, then set the boot disk priority. ill walk you thru it if you want.....