Boy do I feel dumb

n00bishLaggeR · 29-January-03, 04:55 AM

Boy do I feel dumb; removing my HSF today ( to put some AS3 instead of the silicone snot) I gently pulled on my heatsink for 5 minutes and it came out, and took my 1.8A clean out of the socket, and ripping about 8 pins out that I counted....
After stomping on my 1.8A and throwing my HSF accross the neighborhood, I am now in the market for a cpu, what do you guys think I should get, budget is $175....0r $250 if dis pending deal im doin goes thru. ty in advance guys

scapegoat · 29-January-03, 05:16 AM

????????? How in the heck did you do that?????????

Did you forget to put up the lever on the ZIF socket?

Kitlarak · 29-January-03, 05:17 AM

"In the AMD market? You can get a AMD Athlon XP 2400 for about 180 to 210 bucks..."

Kit

Cyphre · 29-January-03, 05:43 AM

Far as I can tell you can pick up a 2.0A for around $160 or possibly cheaper. Guess it depends on if you're planning to overclock. Or perhaps a 2.4B (northwoods, 533FSB) at around $190. At 2.53, the price seems to jump to a good $230, and 2.6 seems to start above $300, so it's entirely up to you how much you want to spend on just a chip.

kitlarak, I do believe his motherboard only support intel socket 478 chips...as opposed to anything AMD produces. And at the cost of a 2400, the cost of a new motherboard would be adding quite a bit more.

n00bishLaggeR · 29-January-03, 07:10 AM

I think Im going to get a 2.0A which is 144$, 150$ shipped, and will get me a decent 2.6GHz overclock at the very least =)
Scapegoat, I screwed the cpu taking the HSF OFF =(

scapegoat · 29-January-03, 07:41 AM

sorry missread what you wrote,

that sucks man.......good thing you are going to AS3, you should never have that problem with it

lcpiper · 29-January-03, 07:59 AM

Well, from some of the boneheaded things that I have done in the past, I can't say that I wouldn't have hosed it the same way.

But after hearing about it, I guess that if anyone was in that situation, where the heatsink was uncliped and still stuck on, then they should release the ZIFF Socket and remove the heatsink and chip together, then work the chip off.

Hindsight is a wonderfull thing isn't it ? It allows you to feel like your getting smarter and learning about old mistakes so you can move on in life, and screw up bigger things

putwig · 29-January-03, 08:18 AM

I don't know that you would be able to pull up the zif socket lever with a heatsink in place?

lcpiper · 29-January-03, 09:04 AM

In most case you would be absolutly right, the heatsink would overlap the socket too much. But it would be worth trying

Gladiator · 29-January-03, 11:51 AM

n00bishLaggeR:
I think Im going to get a 2.0A which is 144$, 150$ shipped, and will get me a decent 2.6GHz overclock at the very least =)
Scapegoat, I screwed the cpu taking the HSF OFF =(

Hey n00bishLaggeR, where did you find the 2.0 A for 144?
thanks

NoSlak · 29-January-03, 12:32 PM

How bout lcPipers XP2100 T bred B-core catch o' the week? And turn it into a 2400 @ least?

lcpiper · 29-January-03, 02:26 PM

I would say at least is a fair estimate NoSlack.

Mine is on an ABit AT7-e Max mobo, Via KT333 chipset and is running at 2.28 Gig, if I drop it from 175mhz FSB down to 173mhz, Wcpuid actually reports it as an XP2800+ chip.

They are in stock at Newegg.com and selling for $95.00 with Free Fedex Saver shipping. That's how the sent mine and I ordered it on Thursday just before MLK holiday weekend and it arrived Tuesday. Can't beat it guys.

Newegg also has a special on the ASUS A7N8X NForce2 mobo for $113 , same free shipping, so you can get the Board and the chip for about $208. That's pretty good shopping guys.

Maverick · 29-January-03, 02:35 PM

I dont know if anyone else has thought of this but he said he pulled 8 pins of right? He never said if they came out of the socket or not. If he cant get them out wouldnt he need a new motherboard? Maybe I missread somewhere but thats what I got from it.

Kitlarak · 29-January-03, 02:41 PM

"Hrm... Maverick you have a point... And Cyphre I apologize, I really wasn't sure if it was an AMD or intel board... But after look at this I have question... Where the heck do you guys go!?!... Your finding super cheap dang fast chips... for a somewhat affordable price. And somehow I am doubting NewEgg... I am not saying it couldn't be just... that would be surprising considering most of their prices to date have not impressed me. But if any of you wouldn't mind referring please do?"

Kit

Tom10167 · 29-January-03, 02:56 PM

googlegear.com has some pretty damn cheap prices, and really excellent customer service, and $.50 FedEx how can you say no? But if you're looking for something in specific I always use pricegrabber.com

TheJester · 29-January-03, 04:08 PM

LOLz noobish that happened to me once I pulled out the cpu out of the zif socket with the lever still down on my 1.7ghz celery (crapery) it came clean off the socket from then on i just wiggle the hsf till i feel its loose and not to sticky on the cpu

oh yeah but I didnt get any broken pins

biohazardpc · 29-January-03, 04:58 PM

well you know if the chi was still under warrenty you could have goten a replacement for free before you stomped on it. Intel has been pretty good about replacing parts for me. I had a cpu that was drp[[ed and some pins fell off and they replaced it no questions asked.But ohh well too late. You stomped on it and now there is not any way they will take it back. lol. Yeah googlegear has great prices and great service. Check them out.

n00bishLaggeR · 29-January-03, 05:13 PM

Maverick:
Ive picked the pins out of the motherboard and love my Aopen dearly, so Im NOT shopping for a new mobo

Gladiator:
OEM Northwood 2GHz: $144
http://www.runtimecc.com
Site doesnt support direct links heh

BohazardPC:
I Always buy OEM CPU's so since this one I broke...I cant repalce it :'(

Scapegoat:
Intel forever, I wouldnt use an amd setup if you gave it to me

Damn straight you cant pull a zif socket lever up with HSF in place heh..

Maverick · 29-January-03, 07:06 PM

Oh ok. You didnt say so I wasnt sure.

CRE · 30-January-03, 03:43 AM

I've had a HSF stick to the proc. before... It was a friend's PII system I was installing an upgrade on. The problem was the thermal pad they used on the stock HSF. I turned the machine on and let it run for about 30 min., opened the case, and it popped right off leaving the CPU alone.

Sorry 'bout the bad luck n00bish..... I know how it feels.... AOpen huh? I'll be happy with them again once they ship me back a working system.

EDIT: Which will apparantly be the middle of next week.... 4 months to just get te stock stuff werkin'..... UGH!!!!!!!!!!!

29-January-03, 04:55 AM		#1 (permalink)
n00bishLaggeR losernoOb	Boy do I feel dumb Boy do I feel dumb; removing my HSF today ( to put some AS3 instead of the silicone snot) I gently pulled on my heatsink for 5 minutes and it came out, and took my 1.8A clean out of the socket, and ripping about 8 pins out that I counted.... After stomping on my 1.8A and throwing my HSF accross the neighborhood, I am now in the market for a cpu, what do you guys think I should get, budget is $175....0r $250 if dis pending deal im doin goes thru. ty in advance guys Last edited by n00bishLaggeR; 29-January-03 at 05:00 AM..

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29-January-03, 05:16 AM		#2 (permalink)
scapegoat Apex Tech God	????????? How in the heck did you do that????????? Did you forget to put up the lever on the ZIF socket?

29-January-03, 05:17 AM		#3 (permalink)
Kitlarak Apex Techie II	"In the AMD market? You can get a AMD Athlon XP 2400 for about 180 to 210 bucks..." Kit

29-January-03, 05:43 AM		#4 (permalink)
Cyphre Apex Tech Maniac	Far as I can tell you can pick up a 2.0A for around $160 or possibly cheaper. Guess it depends on if you're planning to overclock. Or perhaps a 2.4B (northwoods, 533FSB) at around $190. At 2.53, the price seems to jump to a good $230, and 2.6 seems to start above $300, so it's entirely up to you how much you want to spend on just a chip. kitlarak, I do believe his motherboard only support intel socket 478 chips...as opposed to anything AMD produces. And at the cost of a 2400, the cost of a new motherboard would be adding quite a bit more.

29-January-03, 07:10 AM		#5 (permalink)
n00bishLaggeR losernoOb	I think Im going to get a 2.0A which is 144$, 150$ shipped, and will get me a decent 2.6GHz overclock at the very least =) Scapegoat, I screwed the cpu taking the HSF OFF =(

29-January-03, 07:41 AM		#6 (permalink)
scapegoat Apex Tech God	sorry missread what you wrote, that sucks man.......good thing you are going to AS3, you should never have that problem with it

29-January-03, 07:59 AM		#7 (permalink)
lcpiper H2-Hoe	Well, from some of the boneheaded things that I have done in the past, I can't say that I wouldn't have hosed it the same way. But after hearing about it, I guess that if anyone was in that situation, where the heatsink was uncliped and still stuck on, then they should release the ZIFF Socket and remove the heatsink and chip together, then work the chip off. Hindsight is a wonderfull thing isn't it ? It allows you to feel like your getting smarter and learning about old mistakes so you can move on in life, and screw up bigger things

29-January-03, 08:18 AM		#8 (permalink)
putwig Dr. Hydro Pimp	I don't know that you would be able to pull up the zif socket lever with a heatsink in place?

29-January-03, 09:04 AM		#9 (permalink)
lcpiper H2-Hoe	In most case you would be absolutly right, the heatsink would overlap the socket too much. But it would be worth trying

29-January-03, 11:51 AM		#10 (permalink)
Gladiator Apex Tech Fanatic	n00bishLaggeR: I think Im going to get a 2.0A which is 144$, 150$ shipped, and will get me a decent 2.6GHz overclock at the very least =) Scapegoat, I screwed the cpu taking the HSF OFF =( Hey n00bishLaggeR, where did you find the 2.0 A for 144? thanks

29-January-03, 12:32 PM		#11 (permalink)
NoSlak Gridiron	How bout lcPipers XP2100 T bred B-core catch o' the week? And turn it into a 2400 @ least?

29-January-03, 02:26 PM		#12 (permalink)
lcpiper H2-Hoe	I would say at least is a fair estimate NoSlack. Mine is on an ABit AT7-e Max mobo, Via KT333 chipset and is running at 2.28 Gig, if I drop it from 175mhz FSB down to 173mhz, Wcpuid actually reports it as an XP2800+ chip. They are in stock at Newegg.com and selling for $95.00 with Free Fedex Saver shipping. That's how the sent mine and I ordered it on Thursday just before MLK holiday weekend and it arrived Tuesday. Can't beat it guys. Newegg also has a special on the ASUS A7N8X NForce2 mobo for $113 , same free shipping, so you can get the Board and the chip for about $208. That's pretty good shopping guys.

29-January-03, 02:35 PM		#13 (permalink)
Maverick Apex Elite Expert Tech	I dont know if anyone else has thought of this but he said he pulled 8 pins of right? He never said if they came out of the socket or not. If he cant get them out wouldnt he need a new motherboard? Maybe I missread somewhere but thats what I got from it.

29-January-03, 02:41 PM		#14 (permalink)
Kitlarak Apex Techie II	"Hrm... Maverick you have a point... And Cyphre I apologize, I really wasn't sure if it was an AMD or intel board... But after look at this I have question... Where the heck do you guys go!?!... Your finding super cheap dang fast chips... for a somewhat affordable price. And somehow I am doubting NewEgg... I am not saying it couldn't be just... that would be surprising considering most of their prices to date have not impressed me. But if any of you wouldn't mind referring please do?" Kit

29-January-03, 02:56 PM		#15 (permalink)
Tom10167 Apex Tech Maniac	googlegear.com has some pretty damn cheap prices, and really excellent customer service, and $.50 FedEx how can you say no? But if you're looking for something in specific I always use pricegrabber.com

29-January-03, 04:08 PM		#16 (permalink)
TheJester Apex Master Tech Apprentice	LOLz noobish that happened to me once I pulled out the cpu out of the zif socket with the lever still down on my 1.7ghz celery (crapery) it came clean off the socket from then on i just wiggle the hsf till i feel its loose and not to sticky on the cpu oh yeah but I didnt get any broken pins

29-January-03, 04:58 PM		#17 (permalink)
biohazardpc H.A.L.O.-Hoe	well you know if the chi was still under warrenty you could have goten a replacement for free before you stomped on it. Intel has been pretty good about replacing parts for me. I had a cpu that was drp[[ed and some pins fell off and they replaced it no questions asked.But ohh well too late. You stomped on it and now there is not any way they will take it back. lol. Yeah googlegear has great prices and great service. Check them out.

29-January-03, 05:13 PM		#18 (permalink)
n00bishLaggeR losernoOb	Maverick: Ive picked the pins out of the motherboard and love my Aopen dearly, so Im NOT shopping for a new mobo Gladiator: OEM Northwood 2GHz: $144 http://www.runtimecc.com Site doesnt support direct links heh BohazardPC: I Always buy OEM CPU's so since this one I broke...I cant repalce it :'( Scapegoat: Intel forever, I wouldnt use an amd setup if you gave it to me Damn straight you cant pull a zif socket lever up with HSF in place heh..

29-January-03, 07:06 PM		#19 (permalink)
Maverick Apex Elite Expert Tech	Oh ok. You didnt say so I wasnt sure.

30-January-03, 03:43 AM		#20 (permalink)
CRE Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	I've had a HSF stick to the proc. before... It was a friend's PII system I was installing an upgrade on. The problem was the thermal pad they used on the stock HSF. I turned the machine on and let it run for about 30 min., opened the case, and it popped right off leaving the CPU alone. Sorry 'bout the bad luck n00bish..... I know how it feels.... AOpen huh? I'll be happy with them again once they ship me back a working system. EDIT: Which will apparantly be the middle of next week.... 4 months to just get te stock stuff werkin'..... UGH!!!!!!!!!!!