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pyXeL · 24-December-04, 03:57 AM

Im having trouble trying to figure out which CPU i want to buy.. both are AMD.
1. Model: Athlon 64 3200+
Core: Winchester
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 90nm
Socket: Socket 939
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

OR

2. Model: AMD Athlon 64
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64+64KB; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 939
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

$33 difference between the two. If the second choice is a shot better, id rather cough up the $33 to get it.

Human Traffic · 24-December-04, 04:13 AM

Probably better to go for the Winchester IMHO

khellandros66 · 24-December-04, 12:56 PM

Winchester definitely better yields and runs a bit cooler .

~Bob

$SOLID$ Necro · 24-December-04, 03:31 PM

You can read a good comparo over at BleedingEdge

90NM comes out on top by a nice margin

http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/p...4/ap64_01.html

SpikeShot · 24-December-04, 03:32 PM

Winchester is hitting 2.71 on air all day, and the Newcastle tops out around 2.63 on air.

Though I know someone who has got his newcastle to 2.7 gigs (AMD Socket 939 newcastle 3800+), but he has water cooling and some other nice hardware. Most 3200+ will top at 2.55 with the Newcastle, and 2.7 with the Winchester. Now that is not exactly what you will get, but it close.

screwcitypunk · 24-December-04, 04:19 PM

Edit: Go with the Winnie either way. Then you can spend the money saved on good memory or a better vid card.

pyXeL · 24-December-04, 11:21 PM

I was mainly concerned how much the difference would be from .130micron to 90nm.
Any?

$SOLID$ Necro · 24-December-04, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pyXeL


	I was mainly concerned how much the difference would be from .130micron to 90nm. Any?

Difference in what exactly?

They overclock better, use less power and run at lower temps. They are physically smaller as far as die size goes, but they are covered in a heatspreader so you won't exactly see it.

Sometimes a different Bios is required for them to work with some motherboards...anything else?

The link in my first post covers it pretty well, but if you want another, check this out.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2242

BigAkita · 25-December-04, 12:04 AM

This is stupid to discuss this. Get the Winchester based CPU. No further conversation required.

24-December-04, 03:57 AM		#1 (permalink)
pyXeL Apex Techie Lite	Which... Im having trouble trying to figure out which CPU i want to buy.. both are AMD. 1. Model: Athlon 64 3200+ Core: Winchester Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB Voltage: 1.5V Process: 90nm Socket: Socket 939 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ OR 2. Model: AMD Athlon 64 Core: Newcastle Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64+64KB; L2/512K Voltage: 1.5V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 939 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ $33 difference between the two. If the second choice is a shot better, id rather cough up the $33 to get it.

24-December-04, 03:32 PM		#5 (permalink)
SpikeShot Probationary User	Winchester is hitting 2.71 on air all day, and the Newcastle tops out around 2.63 on air. Though I know someone who has got his newcastle to 2.7 gigs (AMD Socket 939 newcastle 3800+), but he has water cooling and some other nice hardware. Most 3200+ will top at 2.55 with the Newcastle, and 2.7 with the Winchester. Now that is not exactly what you will get, but it close. Last edited by SpikeShot; 24-December-04 at 09:08 PM..

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24-December-04, 04:13 AM		#2 (permalink)
Human Traffic Apex Advanced Techie	Probably better to go for the Winchester IMHO

24-December-04, 12:56 PM		#3 (permalink)
khellandros66 Apex Master Tech	Winchester definitely better yields and runs a bit cooler . ~Bob

24-December-04, 03:31 PM		#4 (permalink)
$SOLID$ Necro Mastah Overclocker	You can read a good comparo over at BleedingEdge 90NM comes out on top by a nice margin http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/p...4/ap64_01.html

24-December-04, 04:19 PM		#6 (permalink)
screwcitypunk Apex Master Tech	Edit: Go with the Winnie either way. Then you can spend the money saved on good memory or a better vid card.

24-December-04, 11:21 PM		#7 (permalink)
pyXeL Apex Techie Lite	I was mainly concerned how much the difference would be from .130micron to 90nm. Any?

25-December-04, 12:04 AM		#9 (permalink)
BigAkita n00b-ass reviewer	This is stupid to discuss this. Get the Winchester based CPU. No further conversation required.