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(http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/hammer-preview/[/url])

DIE INTEL DIE!!! I hope AMD actually sticks to their schedule this time .

"Dang thats going to hit the ol' wallet... But I must agree... DIE INTEL! DIE! BURN!" smiles then sighs "Sadly I probably won't be able to afford one for quite some time... dang. But wow... Anyone want to try to run 6gigs of ram?" smirks

Kit

well it is great that amd is whippin out a 64 bit processer for the average joe, but how does that have anything to do w/ intel? sure it'll put up competion but intel is already workin on a cpu w/ an 800 mhz bus.

not only that but as reported in the article,

Quote: by the time Hammer hits the market, Pentium 4 working frequency will have reached 2.8-3GHz, according to the today's information

haha boy did they get that wrong! pentium 4 is already running that fast and it probably wont be too long b4 the pentium 4 speed is upped again.

also it mentioned that the clawhammer will debut w/ a rating of oer 3000+. ok... i personally think that the fastest pentium 4 when hammer is released will whup it..

of course what i just wrote is based not on a working copy of clawhammer so any number of things might be wrong w/ it.

well no matter which is faster, amd has a tendency to give u more bang for ur buck and that is a big factor when buying a cpu. hopefully AMD will continue that tradition

brandon

I know all that Gamma_Goblin & thanks but the post is to make poeple talk about the new Hammer (Because some of us like AMD pretty much).

well i was just trying to provoke discussion and to make some points b4 poeple jump to the conclusion that it'll whup intel.

AMD chips are great stuff. i do not think anybody can deny that they work great for budget machines and some high end but let's face it, unless u r doin hardcore animation, video editing or things like that, intel has higher performance.

brandon

Actually, the performance of Intel is less than that of AMD. The shorter pipeline in the AMD chips shows much greater performance. The long pipeline in Intel chips allow them to clock them higher, but everything being relative, the performance is way under what AMD achieves.

Understand that there is a difference between performance and benchmarks. Benchmarks are tailored to run optimally on one or another CPU, performance is actual speed of instruction execution. Intel is not anywhere near AMD's speed of instruction execution.

The only reason that Intel is able to beat AMD in benchmarks is the the long pipeline allows fast but sloppy execution of instructions. Take two of the chips, clocked at the same speed, and tell me which one is superior. There would be no comparison.

I don't know anything about or use hardcore animation & video editing or things like that like you said , so i'll have to trust you on this.
I use my system for the internet & computers games only & that's it , well beside typing & print out a letter or document.

I am not an AMD lover, but I am very appreciative of what they accomplished in the last few years. Intel continues to crank up the speed, but AMD continues to become more efficient.

Raw power VS finesse. Who will win? I don't really care, but it sure plays out well for all of us users.

Oups! just saw Bigakita post & that is what i thooght but i was not sure of it , but now i'm , thanks! Bigakita.

Well said BA!!!

Mhz for Mhz, AMD has been kicking Intel's butt for a while now. As far as Intel dieing, I don't think so. Nor would I want that. Where would we be without the competition. I like AMD and have had nothing but since I built my first machine (486 dx 100) but I would own an Intel. As for the Hammer it's the next step in the progression of the home pc. Eventually Intel will follow suit and come out with something new themselves. Thats the up side. On the down side the price gap between AMD and Intel has been slowly closing and I understand this will make the gap even smaller due to increased production costs to build the hammer.

I'v always hated Intel with a passion, and I always will. They are extremly gready bastards. AMD is better than Intel no doubt about it. They may be slower Mhz and Ghz wize, but damn they smoke the **** outta intel!!!

Good point Hojo. I noticed that the price gap has been closing myself. Pretty soon we will be unable to call AMD the budget chip.

I read an article on the hammer and i though it said that the cost was going to be like $1000-$1400 or something, how can a cpu that costs that much be marketed to a home user or called a budget chip? and how exspensive is this chip really going to be?

hmmm in not sure where u heard that. maybe u could give us a source or sumthin. i highly doubt that the CLAWhammer would be that expensive... mabye, and i mean maybe, on a longshot the sledge hammer could be closer to those prices, but it just does not make any sense for a company to sell a chip for that.

however, BA, when u take the fastest P4 setup and the fastest Athalon setup, the p4 overall wins in many fields, but gets bum raped in adobe premier and programs like that.

however if u want the most performance for ur dollar, AMD is the way to go. there is no question. pentium 4's are expensive but also is the family of chip that currently has the "fastest" (highest benchmarks in the fastest setup possible) setup available. unless u guys can provide some solid benchmarks that totally whup p4 in more than half of the fields tested, ( i don care if the benchmarks are actual or synthetic) im sticking by what i said that to get the fastest possible setup, you gotta have a pentium 4

if u get me the proof w/ the 2800+ vs teh 3.06 GHz, i'll preach the work of AMD

brandon

my apple tastes better then your orange
jews are better then christians
fords kick chevys blow
amd is better intel sucks
why do you guys go thru this stuff every two weeks?

oh for got tastes great

less filling

Intel 3.06GHZ v.s. 2.25GHZ AMD Athlon XP2800+. The Intel barely makes a dent in the AMD. AMD is almost a GHZ slower and is almost just as good. If AMD had a 3.06GHZ processor the'd smoke Intel's ass 150% atleast.

Quote: Originally posted by The_Lost_Monkey my apple tastes better then your orange jews are better then christians fords kick chevys blow amd is better intel sucks why do you guys go thru this stuff every two weeks?

Amen Monkey! Preach it brother!