Awesome quick drying putty trick

Gzim · 01-July-06, 11:17 PM

I learned this from a past modelling hobby life. There is a very expensive type of putty known as "micro-ballons" or something to that effect that is very hard to find (AFAIK). But, you can make your own cheapie version by combining any Cyanoacrylate based super glue (I use Zap-a-gap) and an equal amount of talcum (or baby) powder. Mix until a beige color is achieved and quickly apply. It is ready to be drilled or painted in less than 5 minutes (dramatically less usually). Just thought I should share...

cipher_nemo · 10-July-06, 10:31 AM

Gzim,

Thanks for the tip. I did a little research on this mself since I might need to use some in a future project...

Most hobby stores carry it, and various manufacturers sell it. Even my small town's hobby shop has it. However, not all of them are sold under the name "Micro-Balloons". From reading up on this, it's only a few bucks for a huge container, 6" tall (15cm).

Here's a link with plenty of info: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazin...roballoons.htm

Here's the product: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZ15

A filling method: http://www.alumilite.com/howto.cfm?ID=13

Thanks again for posting about this. Without your tip, I would have never known this stuff existed.

Gzim · 10-July-06, 11:08 AM

Thanks for the uh thanks...Back when I learned how to make the stuff yourself, the only thing we could get was some import stuff from Japan called SGST or something, and the importing just made the price crazy. I just love the fact that you know, I had decent CA (Cyanoacrylate) based glue (most super type glues) and every home should have some talcum powder, so it didn't necessitate furthur purchase...

DuckWarrior · 10-July-06, 01:17 PM

Instead of talcum powder, try using baking soda, I get better results with sanding.

Gzim · 10-July-06, 03:24 PM

Your eminence! I am humbled by your desire to visit my lowly thread!

Butt kissing aside...

Baking Soda you say? Better results in what way? I don't do much for sanding beyond getting it in shape with my dremel's sanding drum, so I don't know what a well polished putty does look like, although I do know people have done some spectacular things with it..

Gzim · 10-July-06, 03:59 PM

Dude. Hot Damn. I don't know if you are using Zap-A-Gap like I am, but with baking soda, the putty has NO, zero, nearly negative set up time, I mix the glue and powder in a dixie cup and then apply as needed, the glue and baking soda solidify upon contact...I'd need some unique circumstances to use a putty with no set up or even cure time...

Fire Hawk · 12-July-06, 10:38 PM

"...My inarticulate store bought, hang-over hobby kit, it talks,
and it says 'You oh, you are so cool!'" Heh, I couldn't resist.

Thank you all for sharing this. I was just interested in filling somethings. I do have a question. Does the ~5 minutes cure time begin right from when you mix the ingredients or when you stop stirring or stop smoothing it out and applying it. Either way, I am guessing you have to do it in small layers if you wish to build it up.

Gzim · 12-July-06, 10:55 PM

My advice would be to test it out on a toothpick or something in a dixie cup. As far as having to apply it in layers...Well, I've made thumb sized glops at a time and they dried just as quickly and thoroughly. And as far as 5 minutes for the cure time? I could easily say that the last time I made my mixture, (a few days ago), I had already dremeled away half of it before 5 minutes was up. It's just: Pour Glue, Pour Powder, Mix, Apply, and before you are done it will be setting up.

cipher_nemo · 13-July-06, 10:43 AM

Gzim, you mentioned the quick cure time and how it sets up even sooner. That sounds fantastic, but how do you store your excess and keep it from drying-up before using it again? Or do you just make enough to use for that one application? Thanks.

Nerdz · 13-July-06, 12:11 PM

YOu can get super glue at the dollar store, and it comes in a pack of 3, You can also get the baking soda there too, So Its cheap (2 bucks) and effective!

Does it have the same consistancy as Bondo?

LwrS10 · 13-July-06, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckWarrior


	Instead of talcum powder, try using baking soda, I get better results with sanding.

holy cow!!! long time no see!!!!

DuckWarrior · 13-July-06, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gzim


	Dude. Hot Damn. I don't know if you are using Zap-A-Gap like I am, but with baking soda, the putty has NO, zero, nearly negative set up time, I mix the glue and powder in a dixie cup and then apply as needed, the glue and baking soda solidify upon contact...I'd need some unique circumstances to use a putty with no set up or even cure time...

Hahahaha, Sorry it took so long to reply we are in a Military exercise right now and I'm inside only 'cause of the storm overhead...I should have warned you about the set time. Hehehe
I would use the glue and then pack baking soda into what you are gluing...you will have a SERIOUS bond made with this concoction but NO time to play with it...yet sandable...
Hope that helps

KiwiFlavor · 13-July-06, 07:38 PM

hmm interesting.... where can u find this type of glue? and, same like what nerdz asked xD
oh it's sandable too right?

Twizted · 13-July-06, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cipher_nemo


	Gzim, Thanks for the tip. I did a little research on this mself since I might need to use some in a future project... Most hobby stores carry it, and various manufacturers sell it. Even my small town's hobby shop has it. However, not all of them are sold under the name "Micro-Balloons". From reading up on this, it's only a few bucks for a huge container, 6" tall (15cm). Here's a link with plenty of info: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazin...roballoons.htm Here's the product: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZ15 A filling method: http://www.alumilite.com/howto.cfm?ID=13 Thanks again for posting about this. Without your tip, I would have never known this stuff existed.

That third link was very informative! Thanks for that....

Cyph3r · 07-September-06, 09:20 AM

THANK YOU!!

i was just wondering how to get rid of the cracks in my bondo. Couldn't have worked better.

TheGreatSatan · 12-September-06, 11:49 AM

Thanks Gzim. And +rep, now you got 4 green!!

Gzim · 12-September-06, 04:28 PM

Unfortunately I can't think a valid reason for repping you back, but I thank you greatly for it, since people who both say thanks and +rep seem in short supply!

fhsfiremanco1 · 12-September-06, 04:48 PM

thanks for the tip idk if this will help in my next mod but surely some down the road

s1ugh34d · 20-October-06, 11:13 PM

Bam to bring this rfrom the dead, when sanding bondo i come up with large amounts of dust, or bondo dust, it piles up on my workbench andi throw it in a little peanut butter jar i use for storage in my work room, after i finish the sandingof all the bondo i could fill a jar up., This stuf works great with superglue and makes a great sandable putty as well. I've done this before also with mixing some into my bondo mixitself for a smoother finish (at least with the bondo hair) helps fill those gaps.

carbongraphite · 20-October-06, 11:19 PM

talc powder does the same thing and is usually used with epoxy for fiberglass as a filler. most plastic/fiberglass stores carry the common fillers, balloons, kitty hair, shredded glass, plain talc (though its not free recyled waste)

01-July-06, 11:17 PM		#1 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid	Awesome quick drying putty trick I learned this from a past modelling hobby life. There is a very expensive type of putty known as "micro-ballons" or something to that effect that is very hard to find (AFAIK). But, you can make your own cheapie version by combining any Cyanoacrylate based super glue (I use Zap-a-gap) and an equal amount of talcum (or baby) powder. Mix until a beige color is achieved and quickly apply. It is ready to be drilled or painted in less than 5 minutes (dramatically less usually). Just thought I should share...

10-July-06, 10:31 AM		#2 (permalink)
cipher_nemo Apex Master Tech Apprentice	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Gzim, Thanks for the tip. I did a little research on this mself since I might need to use some in a future project... Most hobby stores carry it, and various manufacturers sell it. Even my small town's hobby shop has it. However, not all of them are sold under the name "Micro-Balloons". From reading up on this, it's only a few bucks for a huge container, 6" tall (15cm). Here's a link with plenty of info: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazin...roballoons.htm Here's the product: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHZ15 A filling method: http://www.alumilite.com/howto.cfm?ID=13 Thanks again for posting about this. Without your tip, I would have never known this stuff existed.

10-July-06, 11:08 AM		#3 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Thanks for the uh thanks...Back when I learned how to make the stuff yourself, the only thing we could get was some import stuff from Japan called SGST or something, and the importing just made the price crazy. I just love the fact that you know, I had decent CA (Cyanoacrylate) based glue (most super type glues) and every home should have some talcum powder, so it didn't necessitate furthur purchase...

10-July-06, 01:17 PM		#4 (permalink)
DuckWarrior Retired Admin In Charge of Death and Destruction to All those Who Oppose My World known as PimpRig	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Instead of talcum powder, try using baking soda, I get better results with sanding.

10-July-06, 03:24 PM		#5 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Your eminence! I am humbled by your desire to visit my lowly thread! Butt kissing aside... Baking Soda you say? Better results in what way? I don't do much for sanding beyond getting it in shape with my dremel's sanding drum, so I don't know what a well polished putty does look like, although I do know people have done some spectacular things with it..

10-July-06, 03:59 PM		#6 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Dude. Hot Damn. I don't know if you are using Zap-A-Gap like I am, but with baking soda, the putty has NO, zero, nearly negative set up time, I mix the glue and powder in a dixie cup and then apply as needed, the glue and baking soda solidify upon contact...I'd need some unique circumstances to use a putty with no set up or even cure time...

12-July-06, 10:38 PM		#7 (permalink)
Fire Hawk Apex Tech Maniac	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick "...My inarticulate store bought, hang-over hobby kit, it talks, and it says 'You oh, you are so cool!'" Heh, I couldn't resist. Thank you all for sharing this. I was just interested in filling somethings. I do have a question. Does the ~5 minutes cure time begin right from when you mix the ingredients or when you stop stirring or stop smoothing it out and applying it. Either way, I am guessing you have to do it in small layers if you wish to build it up.

12-July-06, 10:55 PM		#8 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick My advice would be to test it out on a toothpick or something in a dixie cup. As far as having to apply it in layers...Well, I've made thumb sized glops at a time and they dried just as quickly and thoroughly. And as far as 5 minutes for the cure time? I could easily say that the last time I made my mixture, (a few days ago), I had already dremeled away half of it before 5 minutes was up. It's just: Pour Glue, Pour Powder, Mix, Apply, and before you are done it will be setting up.

13-July-06, 10:43 AM		#9 (permalink)
cipher_nemo Apex Master Tech Apprentice	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Gzim, you mentioned the quick cure time and how it sets up even sooner. That sounds fantastic, but how do you store your excess and keep it from drying-up before using it again? Or do you just make enough to use for that one application? Thanks.

13-July-06, 12:11 PM		#10 (permalink)
Nerdz Sir Knight of Spamalot	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick YOu can get super glue at the dollar store, and it comes in a pack of 3, You can also get the baking soda there too, So Its cheap (2 bucks) and effective! Does it have the same consistancy as Bondo?

13-July-06, 07:38 PM		#13 (permalink)
KiwiFlavor Apex Tech Fanatic	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick hmm interesting.... where can u find this type of glue? and, same like what nerdz asked xD oh it's sandable too right?

07-September-06, 09:20 AM		#15 (permalink)
Cyph3r Apex Techie Lite	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick THANK YOU!! i was just wondering how to get rid of the cracks in my bondo. Couldn't have worked better.

12-September-06, 11:49 AM		#16 (permalink)
TheGreatSatan Apex Tech Demi-God	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Thanks Gzim. And +rep, now you got 4 green!!

12-September-06, 04:28 PM		#17 (permalink)
Gzim Da' Jersey Kid	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Unfortunately I can't think a valid reason for repping you back, but I thank you greatly for it, since people who both say thanks and +rep seem in short supply!

12-September-06, 04:48 PM		#18 (permalink)
fhsfiremanco1 Apex Tech Fanatic Supreme	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick thanks for the tip idk if this will help in my next mod but surely some down the road

20-October-06, 11:13 PM		#19 (permalink)
s1ugh34d Apex Tech God	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick Bam to bring this rfrom the dead, when sanding bondo i come up with large amounts of dust, or bondo dust, it piles up on my workbench andi throw it in a little peanut butter jar i use for storage in my work room, after i finish the sandingof all the bondo i could fill a jar up., This stuf works great with superglue and makes a great sandable putty as well. I've done this before also with mixing some into my bondo mixitself for a smoother finish (at least with the bondo hair) helps fill those gaps.

20-October-06, 11:19 PM		#20 (permalink)
carbongraphite Pow - Hoe playa	Re: Awesome quick drying putty trick talc powder does the same thing and is usually used with epoxy for fiberglass as a filler. most plastic/fiberglass stores carry the common fillers, balloons, kitty hair, shredded glass, plain talc (though its not free recyled waste)

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