so..
i just got done installing ubuntu 6.06 64bit
and its updating now...

so here i go..

where is a good "learn linux" site..

also.. im gonna need more than anything the ablility to read/ write to my windows drives..
i use bittorrent alot.. so its hard to seed things from linux if i cant access them..

hmm
hows about.. how do i make my wallpaper different between desktops?

what do i absolutely need on linux..
i watch alot of anime on my pc, and listen to alot of mp3s..

i used the combined community codec pack on windows so that all my files would work.. but what am i gonna need for lnux

hmm
im shure ill think of more..

but as of now.. i like linux more than windows..
i need a restart and linux is updated !!

thanks
-j

also,
it tells me i dont have permission o do stuff,
like click on certian folders, or my windows drives..

id love a good system monitor that tells me everything my system is up to..

ya..
i just switched back to windows, and i noticed that in the boot screen there is a double of ubuntu.. is that normal.. and it asked me to reinstall some new hardware..

Ok, for videos and stuff, xine is good. I preffer mplayer, but it may need KDE. Actually, I think it needs KDElibs. Xine doesn't, so if you don't already have it, maybe check it out.

For audio, I like amarok. It works in gnome, but again, you need KDElibs. Listen is supposed to be similar to amarok, only for gnome and it uses GTK. http://listengnome.free.fr/

About your windows drives and the access problems. You need to modify your fstab. This is a small file that stores mount points for your system.

run a text editor with root access. A GUI or command line editor, it doesn't matter, as long as you have root permissions. I use nano. Open "/etc/fstab" ("nano /etc/fstab"). Find the line that relates to your windows partition. You can find it by looking for the device ("/dev/hda1") or by the filesystem type ("ntfs") or by the mount point (ie "/mnt/win_c"). Right after where you specify the filesystem type, there'll be a space and some options such as ("noauto" or "user", seperated by commas if there's more than one.). You need to add some options here. Add "uid=0,gid=100,umask=002". Then, unmount the partition if it's mounted ("umount /mnt/win_c") and then mount it ("mount /mnt/win_c"). This should fix it.

This goes into more detail about it http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handboo...?part=1&chap=8

ok,
heres where im at..
i used ubuntuguide.org and mounted my windows drive..

im working on mounting my second drive..
will these stay mounted? do i need to unmount them before i shut down?

i tried installing easyubuntu
but i got this message..

Your sources.list does not match your system configuration.
Either you have changed your sources.list or an system
upgrade has failed. EasyUbuntu will not run unless these are fixed!

after poking around in my filesystem, (for the sake of learning it..) i ran across this:
(has to do with easy ubuntu)
home folder/easy ubuntu/conf/sources.list
the file reads:

# The above lines were generated automatically by EasyUbuntu 3.02 Release
# The rest of your sources.list follows


# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.

so, do i have a bug? that wasnt fixed..

anyways,
i guess id also like to know where it made the folders when i mounted drives, and if it makes a new folder everytime i mount.. etc etc..
and what does the swap partition do?

thanks again..
-j

ubuntuguide.org will pretty much hold your hand through everything ubuntu. Mplayer isn't actually a gui app by itself. You can run it outside of X.

ya ubuntuguide is being good to me..

im still lost on the easy ubuntu problem.. and i was never good with command line stuff..

tho i was getting better with dos.. it didnt matter much in XP (im not comparing dos to linux.. im just saying.. i kind of understand.. thats about it..)

so ya,
thanks.

-j

Hmmm, a lady bug just fell and got wedged between my r t and f keys. Weird.
I know mplayer isn't just GUI. I just forgot *shiftie eyes*. One day I used "mplayer" instead of "mpg123" and it worked. So I thought, "huh, neat." But I really didn't know that, so thanks!

Mount does not create a mount point. You or a program must create the mount point (folder). Typically, mount points are kept in the "/mnt" folder, just to keep things clean and consistant. If you would like linux to automatically mount a partition or other device at boot, you must add it to the fstab. To mount a partition manually, you need to "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/Shared" or whater ever the device is followed by its mount point. If you have something like a USB drive or memory card reader and you would like to simply type "mount /mnt/USB" or what ever, you can add it to the fstab, but add the "noauto" option to it. If you would like a regular user (non root) to be able to mount it, add "user".

The swap partition is used as virtual memory. It's like the page file in windows. When there's not enough RAM, information is stored in virtual memory. I have a gigabyte of RAM and right now, 330MB are free, so the swap space is not being used at all. If I were running the Gimp with lots of pictures opened, enough to fill the RAM, then the swap space would be used.

That reminds me, have you checked out The Gimp?
Now, I must goto bed, for I am tired and it's almost 1 in the f***ing morning, lol.

ive been using the gimp for things in windows for a couple years now..
i like it alot,

thanks for the stuff about mounting at boot, i found it in unbuntu guide..

i also noticed that when i switched back to windows.. i still had 2 normal ubuntus, and 2 safe mode ubuntus as options..

i also liked how windows xp was listed as other operating system lol..

but i gave up on that bug thing for easy ubuntu..
id like to know what it is exatly, so i may just post it up on the ubuntu forums tomorrow..
for now its bedtime..

o and ive got a good concept of how i want to hack and slash that little lian li case, so after i price the watercooling stuff, and source some more stuff ill be starting a project for a nice linux box mod

yay..
thanks again
-j

edit:

what is the little program running in these screenshots
its the program that is monitoring all the things the pc is doing..
ya..
http://www.alleslinux.com/prog_pics/ubuntu-dick.png
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/acom/linux/sc...nal_ubuntu.png

Anything static you want mounted at boot goes in /etc/fstab. Other things like cd's dvd's and removable devices can be set up to use kernel auto mounting functions and supermount.

also try sudo apt-get update to update your lists and installed packages, that may remedy the easybuntu error.

for system monitors check out gkrellm, superkaramba, and torsmo, I love torsmo.

The monitors on the desktops could be a bunch of things. Im guessing Torsmo, though, because it's gnome. You could also use karamba, or superkaramba. Karamba is kind of like google widgets or what ever it's called. You load themes and they display certain information. Superkaramba is karamba with python support, making it much more powerful.

Im a little confused about the boot loader thing, though. When you installed Ubuntu, did it ise the Windows bootloader? or did it install GRUB or LILO?

Quote: Originally Posted by Fire Hawk Ok, for videos and stuff, xine is good. I preffer mplayer, but it may need KDE. Actually, I think it needs KDElibs. Xine doesn't, so if you don't already have it, maybe check it out.

Uhh? Mplayer doesn't require KDElibs/QT or GTK, actually you can run mplayer without even having X11, as long as you have aalibs you run it in a VT (Virtual terminal). Although KMPlayer will require all the normal KDE bloat (KDElibs/QT) and the GMPlayer also probably requires GTK most likely. But MPlayer will run in GUI state as long as you X11 and the neccsary X libraries installed. You can run MPlayer in TWM without any quirks. Ubuntu actually doesn't come with MPlayer, IIRC it uses Totem-Xine or Totem-Gstreamer for movie playback. Allthough if you use a script such as Automatix, you can get all your video players and neccesary codecs plus a bunch of other everyday handy things quite easily, www.getautomatix.com . I'm actually currently working on a similar but less polished but yet more advanced script for Arch Linux called EasyArch with one of the Co-Hosts of the Linux Links Tech Show (http://tllts.info/). But mine won't be as user friendly as it won't have a GUI but rather a ncurses menu setup

There's nothing unfriendly about ncurses.

Quote: Originally Posted by thedemonxanth There's nothing unfriendly about ncurses.

Hehe, Indeed. We aren't going for a cutsie noob friendly look, basically just a quick way to for people who have used Arch before to get a system up with all the goodies quite quickly if they need to do a reinstall or something. The idea has already gotten some negative respone from the Arch community as a lot of the users think they "elitists", since a lot of the userbase is made up from ex-Gentoo kiddies So having a cute GUI would only piss them off even more.

I equate elitism with stupidity. There's nothing elite about knowing more than someone about something. What's truly elite is passing on your knowledge, and possibly gaining a peer in the process. None of us were born knowing how to do anything but cry and ****. Well maybe Necro knew how to overclock.


OH NO, someone else can do something I can!!!! My penis just got smaller.

WHAT? An easy way to do something I had to do the hard way!! NO ANYTHING BUT EFFICIENCY AND PROGRESS!!!! *ploop* There go the testes.

It's an all too prevalent and wrong attitude.


Back on the subject of helping phantommaggot , grab automatix, I've heard good things.

Quote: Originally Posted by thedemonxanth I equate elitism with stupidity. There's nothing elite about knowing more than someone about something. What's truly elite is passing on your knowledge, and possibly gaining a peer in the process. None of us were born knowing how to do anything but cry and ****. Well maybe Necro knew how to overclock. OH NO, someone else can do something I can!!!! My penis just got smaller. WHAT? An easy way to do something I had to do the hard way!! NO ANYTHING BUT EFFICIENCY AND PROGRESS!!!! *ploop* There go the testes. It's an all too prevalent and wrong attitude.

Well sadly this is how most of the Linux userbase thinks outside of the more popular distributions (Mandriva,Ubuntu,Suse,Fedora etc). Go into the official slackware channel on freenode and just look at the, "I know more than you, you are dumb, my e-penis is huge" mentality. Sadly enough (No offense Fire Hawk) but 95 percent of Gentoo users I know act like this, and that's why most of the hardcore *nix users who actually have a clue stay far away from Gentoo.

"Im a little confused about the boot loader thing, though. When you installed Ubuntu, did it ise the Windows bootloader? or did it install GRUB or LILO?"

im a little lost here too..
alls i did was use the gui installer to put linux on my pc..

i made a 20 gig partition before hand with gparted (while i was using the live disk..)

as far as the boot loader, are you referring to what im using to dual boot??

i dunno, whatever ubuntu was set up with stock..

sooo ya,,

and im about to log on to linux now..
my internet has been acting up so... ill try to post after i play with easyubuntu..


whats the easiest way to share a file that i can read/write between windows and linux..

do i need to make a fat partition, will it write to ntfs..

i just need to be able to seed torrents, and well.. download them..

thanks again..

josh

You won't be able to write to NTFS easily, if your Linux / partition is ext2/3 you can install a driver for windows thats allows you full access to the drive. http://www.fs-driver.org/

Basically just set it up, reboot, go into the control panel and open the IFS properties thing, and assign a drive letter to your Linux partition.

As for the boot loader, you are using GRUB as that is what Ubuntu and most distributions use nowadays, lilo is considered deprecated, although some people prefer it and I think slackware might still use it.

EDIT: Don't bother with easyubuntu, go with automatix, it does a lot more www.getautomatix.org

thanks for the automatix tip.

ill try it right now

will the 32bit programs work (im running 64bit, should i wipe and startover with 32bit??)
i heard it was better to have 32 bit anyways..

bleh..

Quote: Originally Posted by phantommaggot thanks for the automatix tip. ill try it right now will the 32bit programs work (im running 64bit, should i wipe and startover with 32bit??) i heard it was better to have 32 bit anyways.. bleh..

Naw, in most cases, you should be able to install 32-bit emulation. Or maybe it's already installed.
Could you give me more detail about the issue where you mentioned "Two Safe Modes"? I think you're talking about the bootloader, but I am not sure.

Well in ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) IIRC, there is a kernel update in which it leaves the old kernel behind (Possibly for compatibility reasons) is this "safe mode" you are referring to the "Rescue/Recovery" mode that is shown at the GRUB bootloader?

Also I can't remember if it is Easyubuntu or Automatix off hand, but one of them has a option I think when you start the script for 32bit binaries or 64bit binaries. It's been awhile since I've fiddled with Ubuntu so my memory on it is kind of vague, wish I could help you more.

" is this "safe mode" you are referring to the "Rescue/Recovery" mode that is shown at the GRUB bootloader?"

why yes it is

it has that and

ubuntu kernerl ?.?.?.?.

listed twice.. then
memtest 86

other operating systems
windows xp

and ill get to automatix tomorrow after i fight the dsl people for a minute or 2..
ourdsl had a shi+ fit.. so now im getting some crappy wireless from up the road.. :\

so..
im not really doing much with linux right now..

is there any way i can take the files on my windos partition and copy them to my linux partition..
given that when i mount my drive, i have read access, but shouldnt i be able to write those files to my linux partition?