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Old 02-November-07, 11:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so first off I am running Linux Mint which is based off of Ubuntu. When I first installed it there were several things grouped together on the main panel. These included a power/battery monitor, networking utilities, and any applications that have a check box for displaying on the panel showed up there. While I was messing with some stuff I accidently close these all and I can't figure out how to get them back. I have tried right clicking and adding stuff to the panel, but the things I want are not available to add. So does anyone know how to get this stuff back without reinstalling the whole os? The applications have check boxes checked for "Show System Tray Icon" or similar but they are not existant.

Any help will be great, thank you.
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Old 05-November-07, 12:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Anyone have any ideas for me to try? Please? I really dont want to have to reinstall since I have a number of other things set up how I like them.
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Old 05-November-07, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Anyone have any ideas for me to try? Please? I really dont want to have to reinstall since I have a number of other things set up how I like them.

Uhmm I've tried their website but is is slower than molasses in Jan. From what I can gather you're using XFCE as the desktop manager instead of the Ubuntu standard Gnome, unfortunately I don't have much experience with XFCE and I just uninstalled it from my PDA.

Have you tried their forums?
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Old 07-November-07, 04:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Uhmm I've tried their website but is is slower than molasses in Jan. From what I can gather you're using XFCE as the desktop manager instead of the Ubuntu standard Gnome, unfortunately I don't have much experience with XFCE and I just uninstalled it from my PDA.

Have you tried their forums?

I am actually using version 3.1 with the Gnome desktop. Version 4.0 must have just been released (in beta) with an XFCE desktop version, however they also have the main version which still is using Gnome.

I have not yet tried their forums, I was hoping that someone here would be able to help me out before I go to some other forum that I dont know.

If I am unable to get this fixed here soon I may decide to just upgrade to the new version, but I have been really busy lately so I dont really want to upgrade right now if I dont have to.
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Old 07-November-07, 04:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I am actually using version 3.1 with the Gnome desktop. Version 4.0 must have just been released (in beta) with an XFCE desktop version, however they also have the main version which still is using Gnome.

I have not yet tried their forums, I was hoping that someone here would be able to help me out before I go to some other forum that I dont know.

If I am unable to get this fixed here soon I may decide to just upgrade to the new version, but I have been really busy lately so I dont really want to upgrade right now if I dont have to.

Gnome should be pretty easy, I haven't used it in a while as well, but if I remember correctly (depending on the distro) there should be something in System Settings or the like. Right clicking on the panel should have worked, but I guess it's disabled.

OR make a new user, log into the new user, find out the plugin names, go to your old user account log in there and use the terminal to initiate the plugins. From previous experience most gui plugins are in /usr/share /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /usr/share/apps(or applications), a quick google search brought up: /usr/lib/gnome-applets so I would assume that you would have some folders with executables there.
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Old 07-November-07, 07:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Gnome should be pretty easy, I haven't used it in a while as well, but if I remember correctly (depending on the distro) there should be something in System Settings or the like. Right clicking on the panel should have worked, but I guess it's disabled.

OR make a new user, log into the new user, find out the plugin names, go to your old user account log in there and use the terminal to initiate the plugins. From previous experience most gui plugins are in /usr/share /usr/local/bin /usr/bin /usr/share/apps(or applications), a quick google search brought up: /usr/lib/gnome-applets so I would assume that you would have some folders with executables there.

So right clicking the panel works but it does not allow me to add these specific applets to the current panel (they dont seem to exist?). I created a new user and that user had the two main applets that I want, specifically NetworkManager Applet and PowerManager. After looking at the help for PowerManager I found the terminal command to run it, but when I did it said that it was already running. So right now I am really not sure what is going on, but I think that these are doing something along the lines of running on a non-existent panel or something.

Thank you for your help so far, maybe just a little more and I will get it. BTW you will have +rep coming to you for the help.
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Old 08-November-07, 11:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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So right clicking the panel works but it does not allow me to add these specific applets to the current panel (they dont seem to exist?). I created a new user and that user had the two main applets that I want, specifically NetworkManager Applet and PowerManager. After looking at the help for PowerManager I found the terminal command to run it, but when I did it said that it was already running. So right now I am really not sure what is going on, but I think that these are doing something along the lines of running on a non-existent panel or something.

Thank you for your help so far, maybe just a little more and I will get it. BTW you will have +rep coming to you for the help.

NP for the help, this is how I learned my way around linux, fixing problems, although it was harder to get a system up and running back in the 2.2 kernel days We didn't have no LiveCD's, graphical installs (Corell Linux 1.0 was the first one I tried with a graphical install, infact I still might have the cd's kicking around) or even as much hardware support as the current thousand distros have, so learing your way around the command line was a must.

Sounds like they are hidden, or running on another panel like you said, in the terminal run (ignore the > as it just denotes that a command follows):
> ps ax

It will spew a bunch of running processes, look for the applets that you want, kill them with:

> kill xxxx

where xxxx is the process ID, it's the first column in the row with the processes you want to kill. Then try running the applet again from the terminal. Also give google a try with the applets' names to find their homepage, they might have some FAQ's or troubleshooting sections that might fix you problem.
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Old 16-November-07, 09:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I finally figured it out and it is once again working how I want it. As it turns out all I had to do was add the notification area applet back to the panel. It just took me this long to figure out that was what I closed. Wow I feel like a nOOb, but it is working now and now I know just that little bit more.
Once again thank you to boardoyd for the help.
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