hey peeps, new to pimprig as a member, but been checkin it out for a long while. everyones doin an awesome job here so im just askin for some help. Im building a new rig but i need some help. i made one that fried, unfortunately. lasted a good year, had some good times, but heat was a big problem. Money is no object this time, so any tips/products that you guys use in ur rigs or any equipment that u know to be the best, plez let me know. And not just cooling stuff, im lookin for all equipment in general, and im thinking about SLI this time, but im a little new to that. any help would be greatly appreciated, and i thank you all in advance!!!!

EDIT: and i have no idea how to get those kickass pictures on the bottom of all those posts......and some good avatars. help with that would be awesome thanks

1st. Welcome to PR.

2nd. Learn to use the edit button, double posting is not approved of.

3rd. Do you mean money is no 'object'?

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan_Gigabyte and i have no idea how to get those kickass pictures on the bottom of all those posts......and some good avatars. help with that would be awesome thanks

Welcome to PimpRig.

Deciding on a CPU is a personal choice, but if you have been lurking in the shadows I'm sure
your aware of that. (sublimanal message pick AMD)

As for Avatars and sigs there is a minimum post count before you may add custom work to
your posts.

Thrasher2 will be by shortly with some handy links. Check them out, you wont be sorry you did.

If money is no object, we are going to have a real good time.

there was also something i wanted to try. i want summin of a music/dance club theme. i was thinking of replacing a whole side panel (the one the motherboard is right next to) with a tv/computer screen of some kind and i want it to show some graphics or vids that move to the beat of the music, maybe summin like those music level bars:
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You said it BA, I love working with no budget...

So heres my complete hardware recommendation, open for comment and critism.

AMD Athlon64 X2 4800+
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC3200 Dual Channel Platinum Series
Asus A8N-SLi Premium nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard
2x Leadtek GeForce 7800 GTX Extreme Edition 256MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI SLi
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache RAID Bundle for OS + games
Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 400GB 4000KD SATA 16MB Cache for storage
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music Sound Card
2x Plextor PX-716AL Dual Layer Slot Loading 16x4x DVD±RW ReWriter
Seasonic S12 600W Silent ATX2.0 Power Supply
Lian-Li PC V2000 Black Aluminium Full-Tower

Apple 30" Cinema HD LCD Monitor
Logitech diNovo Laser Media Desktop

Total: Approx £5050 ($8900)

im likin the case/graphics cards and most of the stuff. im a lil worried bout the processor though. ive never tried AMD, but im an INTEL junkie, i dunno if i can live w/o it. ive heard lotsa arguments for AMD, wts urs? and also, i don like the western digital, unfortunately. i was gonna go with the one raptor, one mega-gig idea, but maybe some good seagates? waddya think?

EDIT: actually, scratch that, i was lookin at some rigs and some of the best cases used server towers, is that a good idea and where can i even get some?

Intel, right now..cant touch AMD.

They stopped production on the P4's becuase they suck..


Run Hotter
Cost More
Worse for gaming
Use more power
Loud Stock coolers


And thats about it... :S

Well, I personally only use Western Digital after trying many other brands with varying success. Never had any probs with WD. Seagate would be a good second choice though.

And my argument for AMD is simply that they pwn Intel ass at almost everything. I would only, ever, ever encourage somebody to use Intel if they were either looking to use their computer as a backup source of heat in the winter months () or were doing vast amounts of video/audio encoding.

For multitasking, dual core takes the biscuit. AMDs dual cores were in the pipe long before Intels, and although Intel rushed theirs out first, it was half baked. AMDs effort is well thought out, efficient and again, simply pwns.

AMDs are generally accepted as the gamers choice, the Athlon64s being the best (imho) desktop processors around today. Plus we have our resident AMD overclocking expert $SOLID$ Necro always haning around to help you push your chip to the max.

Im 100% sure that everyone here worth listening to will wholeheartedly recommend AMDs Athlon X2 and Athon 64 chips too

EDIT - See, take note. Me and TYCOON are worth listening too, cos we are AMD fanboys

kk, i'll try that then. also i changed my mind bout the case. waddya think about a server tower?

EDIT: and im thinkin about a 680W power supply. do you think 600W would be good enough for all that?

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan_Gigabyte hey peeps, new to pimprig as a member, but been checkin it out for a long while.

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thanks thrasher, these are all great!

now my experience is that CRT is better than LCD. LCD may have killer backlighting, but resolution on CRT is higher most of the time isnt it?

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan_Gigabyte kk, i'll try that then. also i changed my mind bout the case. waddya think about a server tower? EDIT: and im thinkin about a 680W power supply. do you think 600W would be good enough for all that?

I'm using a 520 watt power supply, but its high quality...that means more than the rating on the box!

http://www.slizone.com/object/slizon..._powersupplies

This is the list of NVIDA approved SLI (Dual vid cards) power supplies, I'm sure that you can find one you like

		Akasa	PowerPlus 650W PSU
		Akasa	PowerPlus 550W PSU
		Antec	TPII-550
		Antec	TP2550EPS12V
		Antec	TrueControl II 550
		CoolerMaster	Real Power 550W SLI
		Enermax	EG565P-VE FMA 535W
		Enermax	EG651AX-VH EPS12V 550W
		Enermax	EG851AX-VH EPS12V 660W
		Enermax	EG701AX Noisetaker 600W
		PC Power & Cooling	Turbo-Cool® 510 SLI (510ATX-PFC)
		PC Power & Cooling	Turbo-Cool® 850 SLI (850ETX-PFC)
		Seasonic	S12-600 Watt
		Silverstone	ST65ZF 650W
		Silverstone	ST60F 600W
		Sparkle Power	FSP550PLG-SLI 550W
		Sunbeamtech

Here is my X-2 3800+ with a little OC action, but stock video cards (SLI 6800 Ultras)

3DMARK 05

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1395255

PCMARK 04

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=3112555

Ok I am soo freaken late on this. Now for what Im good at . LCD screens, err LCD modules really. YOu can make them show the bars from winamp. Depending on where you get em from, it can cost anywhere from 7 bucks to 200 bucks (yea that much), but at that price, through research I have found cheaper ones that look the same.

They take up 1 parallel port, or 1 serial port. Me and T2 are working on getting one to work on USB.

EDIT: heres where I ordered mine from (well..T2 did..)http://www.411techsystems.com/html/lcd_outlet.html

Check out the Blue and White one

wait, help me out here Nerdz. these modules look a little small. are the dimensions in inches? also, i was thinking on a much larger scale, with color too. if what im talking about is not even possible plez let me know . ive never thought of something like this

EDIT: oh and thanks to $SOLIDS$ too, an priceless help

I know they are small, but they do look nice. You can (if you want) mount it on the front on a spare drive bay.

They come in 2x16 (where 16 is across and 2 is how many lines),2x40,4x16,4x20,2x20. The graphical ones are like the ones in PDA and such, 128x284, 640x680 are the only ones I know of.

You can however, go and find a PS1 portable screen, take that out and use that. Theres a how too some where around the web (Ive seen it too, looks good) So yea you can do it.

And Oh the LCD modules, do come in some colors, like backround and character color, the most common is black with silver backround with a green backlight..

Yes Dimensions are in inches.

hmmm. k, this is good. the PS1 idea would be pretty cool actually. Just in case, i was wonderin if i could do this: could i try a multiple monitor set-up, put one of em on the side panel, and split it up so that on the free standing one i could do word processor or summin, and then on the other i could play winamp with the bars?

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan_Gigabyte try a multiple monitor set-up, put one of em on the side panel, and split it up so that on the free standing one i could do word processor or summin, and then on the other i could play winamp with the bars?

With a little planning why not. If they can put a PC in a picture frame and hang it on a wall
I dont see why you could not mount a extra monitor on your PC.

Power and heat would need to be thought out.

I like the idea.

appreciate it Pharoh. yeh, power would be kinda huge. im wonderin about the heat thing though. is there all that much worry about heat on the side of the tower that isnt full of the wires, etc.?