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Old 01-October-02, 11:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb How to OC an intel

I got my p3 stock cooling but several other fans keeping my abiant temp down . PC inerds list as follows:
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System Information
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Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~1000MHz
Memory: 256MB RAM
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0881)
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Sound Devices
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Description: SB Live Wave Device
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Display Memory: 31.0 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
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MOBO
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GIGABYTE GA-60XE
Sentrale spec:

Socket 370 for Intel FC-PGA Pentium III or other compatible processors
4 DIMMs support up to 512 MB SDRAM
Provides 6 PCI, AGP 4X and CNR slots
Supports 4 USB ports
Supports UDMA ATA 66/100 IDE device
Provides SCR (Smart Card Reader) connector
Provides IA (Information Appliance) connector
Supports EasyTune III™ and @BIOS™
Supports DualBIOS™ technology
Supports STR (Suspend-To-RAM)
H/W monitoring & Intel® LDCM® utility

HOLY FUK HOWS THAT FOR INFO!
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Old 02-October-02, 12:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok Tycoon, I have Dl'd your Mobo manual for the GA-60XE.

You have a Socket370 Intel PIII @ 1000mhz

Two settings control your CPU's operating frequency, the FSB (front side bus frequency), and the CPU Multiplier, also called the Clock Multiplier. The FSB X the Multi = CPU Freq.

All recent Intel CPU's including yours are "Clock Locked", the Multiplier is locked, and cannot be changed so in a way, that makes OCing a little easier.

There are only two likely settings for you CPU,
Multi locked at 10, and FSB set at 100mhz
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Multi locked at 7.5, and FSB set at 133mhz

I am going to bet on the first one as it is more likely correct.
Therefore if you increase your FSB by 10mhz to 110mhz, then 110 X Multi of 10 = 1.1gig and this is your initial target for your OC.

Your RAM is 256M of PC100, or PC133. It would be possible to get some PC100 to run at 133mhz, but it isn't a given.

According to your manual, the FSB can be set from 55 - 153mhz but the higher settings are not usually so stable so don't jump to any conclusions that you will get 10 X 153 = 1.5gig. But that is the theoretical limit of your board. But a lot of other things go into how high you can get it.

Your manual says that the FSB is set by a Dip Switch called SW1.
You will have to locate SW1 on your mobo, it is near the end of your IDE2 connector close to the battery.

A Dip-Switch is set by moving each of the small switches to either ON, or OFF. (a ballpoint pen works good for this). Your manual displays the On setting as an O and OFF as an X. You will have six small switches on SW1, and for Auto (where the motherboard automatically sets the FSB acording to the chip), all switches are set to OFF. 100mhz is OOXXXX and 112.5mhz is OOXOOX.
If you set SW1 for 112.5mhz and if your system boots and runs stable, then you will have a 1.125ghz OC going.

Whether your RAM is good enough to handle 112.5mhz or not, I can't say. This is something you will just have to try out. If your RAM isn't up to it, or your cooling, then you will be out of luck and have to try a lower setting. Of course if you have good RAM and cooling, and if everythin cooperates, you may be able to try even higher settings.

Good Luck Tycoon
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Old 02-October-02, 12:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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its pc 133 as far as i no and my bus is 133 so ya .......
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Old 02-October-02, 12:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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well my temps are lower now with the OC???????? did i underclock it all wer set to off position i sett to ooxoox bottom to top
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Old 02-October-02, 12:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Looks like it, you can try these settings.

133.70 O X O X X X
137.00 O X O X X O
140.00 O X O O O X
145.00 O X O O O O
150.00 O X O O X X

Start low and work your way up now that you understand what your doing
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Old 02-October-02, 01:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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well it crashes at 1.12 and 1.14 i have it at 1033 wat do u suggest for COOLLING!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-October-02, 01:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ok its at 1088 anything higher errors out in mid logon .. i dont get it seeing as my ram or cpu isnt hot 45, 55 wich was normal temps befor at 1.12 wont start up with 1088 it error out just in time for for it to log on to my desttop so it didnt freeze "lexplorer" and som other one ?
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Old 02-October-02, 09:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Sorry Tycoon, I had to go to bed.

There are a lot of things that could be causing the crashes.
If you remember, I had also asked that you check your RAM settings. We will need to know what your RAM settings are.

BTW, I want to confirm where you are set now. Is this the correct setting?
103.00 - O O X X X O and you get 1033 which means you have a multiplier of 10 ?

Also you need to note what your running at for Voltages.
The Vcore, and DRAM Voltage settings. (But don't try changing them yet, Voltage changes can damage stuff easily so you gota be carefull with them, specially with older gear).

Please confirm the FSB setting above, and get the RAM settings ok?
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Old 02-October-02, 09:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yes i can run at 33 but my computer becomes unstable at 80 mhz overclock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-October-02, 10:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Please confirm the FSB setting above, and get the RAM settings ok?

Common Tycoon, read it all little buddy, I need this info.

Some systems have a FSB setting and an additional RAM speed setting that can be independant of the FSB setting.
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Old 02-October-02, 11:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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SRY but oc is new to me and i dont now how to find FSB setting and an additional RAM speed setting sry im a n00b ul have to walk me throw a bit


PS TY very much ur a good guy
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Old 03-October-02, 12:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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NP Tycoon, well work through it and you will learn that way too.

You FSB is what you have SW1, the dip switch set for.

You RAM settings will be in your BIOS.

They will be titled things like DRAM Clock, CAS Delay, etc and usually will all be together in one section.

I checked your Manual again and the RAM settings are under the "Advanced Chipset Features" section of your BIOS.
The settings are;

SDRAM CAS Latency Time 3
SDRAM Cycle Time Tras/Trc 7/9
SDRAM RAS-to-CAS Delay 3
SDRAM RAS Precharge Time 3
Delayed Transaction Enabled
AGP Graphics Aperture Size 64MB
System Memory Frequency Auto
SDRAM Buffer Strength Auto

These are the settings from the manual, you will need to tell us the settings that are currently there.
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Old 03-October-02, 12:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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u need to work for microsoft..... smart smart smart ty il see wat i can do
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Old 03-October-02, 12:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Dude, don't wish those guys on me, lol

I am a Unix System Administrator which means I work with a REAL operating system. Windows is for games

UNIX is work
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Old 03-October-02, 01:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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wat about novel



Top performance - Disabled
SDRAM Timing Control - Auto
SDRAM CAS Latency Time 3
SDRAM Cycle Time Tras/Trc 7/9
SDRAM RAS-to-CAS Delay 3
SDRAM RAS Precharge Time 3
Delayed Transaction Enabled
AGP Graphics Aperture Size 32MB
System Memory Frequency Auto <-- didnt notice that on not shure
SDRAM Buffer Strength Auto
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Old 03-October-02, 01:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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a little bee told me people at linux are using windows servers......


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Old 03-October-02, 01:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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OK, thanx for getting this together. I will need a little time to look it over and check your manual. I need to figure out whether these need to change or not.

Then if the RAM is OK, then we will have to check some other things too. Getting late and I have this old peice of hardware laying around in the house called a wife that keeps making a noise like "time for bed"

So get with you again tomorrow, Choos
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Old 03-October-02, 07:00 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 03-October-02, 09:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok , "but the Top performance - Disabled" , seems mabey that should be enebled?
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Old 03-October-02, 10:40 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Possibly, and you can try it, all that can happen is that it still won't boot. But I think that it is a different issue. When you raise your FSB, you arn't just OCing the CPU, you are OCing everything in your computer, CPU, RAM, PCI bus, AGP bus. The PCI bus is supposed to run at 33mhz, AGP at 66mhz, RAM usually matches the FSB for the CPU. If you raise the FSB 6mhz from 100 to 106mhz, then the PCI is at 32mhz and AGP at 63. If those cards can't take it then the OC will fail, your RAM will also be at 106mhz X the Multiplier, in your case 10, so 1060mhz.

When you increase the frequency sometimes the strength of the signal weakens so you have to increase voltage, but this is a little more dangerous and adds much more heat. Before I suggest that you try this, (you have jumpers on your mobo for over-voltage adjustments), I want to be sure that it is neccessary, and that you can afford the risk, I don't want you to fry your CPU and not have the cash to replace it. I really don't want to hurt you.
I think Mom and Dad would get really pissed at you and me

So lets not be in a hurry, that's how you make mistakes.

I gota get ready for work, be back later.
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