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Old 23-August-03, 02:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was just wondering, since AMD N-Force2 chipset motherboards can Unlock the Multiplier with out having to modify your Cpu, why can't they do the same for Intel and bypass the Multipler lockouts by Intel?
I realize that this might entail a special motherboard chipset, but would that be possible?
As of now there is no way to unlock the multiplier on a Pentium4, unless you have friends at Intel that can get you a unlocked Engineering sample. What makes them different internally then the retail P4 CPU?
I just find it hard to believe that no-one has been able to crack one, has Intel just engineered it so well as to completely foil all attempts? Has someone ever tried a little reverse engineereing on an engineering sample?
All the amazing things I see being done out there in the Overclock and Modding world, and yet they have succesfully blocked us on this....

Or would unlocking them never work until we can Fab our own chips
(Which I bet our local Pentium madman ZENNZO has been working on for his next project )
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Old 23-August-03, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I truly think they have designed them so we can not unlock them. I think they think we will screw the mup if we were able to do so. If that is the case I don't blame them. I would probably do they same thing.
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Old 24-August-03, 01:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would think that unlocking the multipler would be done by something on the chipset its self. Unless you have kick a$$ soldering skills it's impossible. I've been doing SMD soldering since I was 12, and even I can't solder that well. It's not something you can do unless you have a multimillion dollar lab rigged with micro photo etching equipment (intel) there is absolutely no way to mod it. Your only option is to run over the P4, with say, a 72 ton M1A2 Abrams, and hope something works the right way afterwards.
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Old 24-August-03, 06:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So does anyone know how the engineering samples are made different then? I Imagine they grab a regular chip midstream in the manufacturing process and must modify it then.
They work without a special chipset in the motherboard when they use them to review motherboards at various websites. I am kinda surprised the chipset makers haven't done a trick like the NForce chipset does for unlocking AMD's. Maybe Intel has some kind of hold over them, not allowing them to unlock it.
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Old 24-August-03, 06:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They modify some part of the chip in the photo etching process for samples. As I stated above, unless YOU can do photo etching at a .13 micron scale, your out of luck. Sorry dude
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Old 05-September-03, 11:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm not an intel guy, I could also use more knowledge bout how chips work/are made but I've alwayas wondered if connecting a combo of pins would work...


sorrry if that sounds dumb, its just a though
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Old 06-September-03, 12:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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This is one of the best kept secrets of the industry...Maybe someone should go to work for intel and get a chip!!! Then send it to me and I'll let ya'll Know!! COOl, I'll be at my mailbox waiting...
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Old 06-September-03, 12:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I have heard you can sometimes find an unlocked engineering sample on E-Bay....
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Old 06-September-03, 12:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah they send out unlocked engineering samples to certain places for testing sometimes.
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