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LoginPrompt · 12-July-03, 06:53 PM

Hey im new to overclocking..iv been trying to read as much as possible on it. I follwed a guide on a website and got my P4 1.5ghz up to 1.66. any thing after that locks up the system. Anyways, there where a few options in the BIOS setup i didnt understand and may be holding me back.

Advanced Chipset Features
-Memory Frequency For
-Auto
-pc100
-pc133

Frequency/Voltage Control
-Cpu Clock Ratio
-auto
-x10
-x11
-x12
-etc.

I followed the guide on http://www.tweaktown.com/document.ph...=guide&dId=192

but some of the features are not the same. thanx for any help.

TekXoID · 12-July-03, 09:11 PM

Your system is technically limited, I am suprised you even got a 160MHz overclock out of it. You obviously have a Socket 423 P4, this chip is quite limited, without upgrading your system mainboard and CPU, substaintial overclocks are not going to happen.

M.D.K. · 12-July-03, 09:23 PM

you have SDRAM on a 423? odd.

anyway, you could try upgrading to a better HSF, as the stock intel ones are prettymuch **** if you want to OC.

TekXoID · 12-July-03, 10:16 PM

Quote:


	Originally posted by M.D.K. you have SDRAM on a 423? odd. anyway, you could try upgrading to a better HSF, as the stock intel ones are prettymuch **** if you want to OC.

It is not odd at all, SDRAM was the only type of memory available with the Socket 423 Pentium 4's.
(Edit: I forgot RDRAM, the pricey alternitive to SDRAM at the time.)

A better HSF will not help him; his processor and motherboard is the bottleneck here.

LoginPrompt · 12-July-03, 11:42 PM

thanx for the info...should i change from auto to pc133 in the Advanced Chipset Features? and/or move from auto to one of the multipliers(x10, x11, etc) in the CPU clock Ratio?
thanx

Slider · 13-July-03, 12:00 AM

sure..switch to 133, and see if that's stable. If not, you'll have to set it back to 100. Same thing with your multiplier. You do know how to reset your cmos right?

M.D.K. · 13-July-03, 12:03 AM

Quote:


	Originally posted by TekXoID It is not odd at all, SDRAM was the only type of memory available with the Socket 423 Pentium 4's. A better HSF will not help him; his processor and motherboard is the bottleneck here.

hmm i guess i just remembered all of the origional p4's being Rambus as that was when intel was trying to sell that stuf... lol. well at least rdr is faster than sdr. :/ too expensive though.

TekXoID · 13-July-03, 12:06 AM

Quote:


	Originally posted by LoginPrompt thanx for the info...should i change from auto to pc133 in the Advanced Chipset Features? and/or move from auto to one of the multipliers(x10, x11, etc) in the CPU clock Ratio? thanx

If your ram is indeed PC133 SDRAM, set it to PC133, if not, or unsure, leave it on auto.

You cannot change the multiplyer on a Pentium 4 processor, yes the option is there but if you try to change it your system will either disregard it or not boot up. Leave the multiplyer on auto.

Quote:


	Originally posted by M.D.K. hmm i guess i just remembered all of the origional p4's being Rambus as that was when intel was trying to sell that stuf... lol. well at least rdr is faster than sdr. :/ too expensive though.

Oh right I completely forgot

, RAMBUS was the best at the time. It never took off due to high pricing, then DDR came along and saved the world...

LoginPrompt · 13-July-03, 12:18 AM

thanx a lot guys

LoginPrompt · 13-July-03, 01:07 AM

ok...so it works without crashing when set to pc133. I noticed an option:

CPU Host / AGP Clk / PCI Clk
- 111/74/37mhx
- 114/76/38mhz
- etc/etc/etc

i got it to 1.66ghz at 111/74/37mhz, but if i go any higher my sound card no longer works. i have no idea why. anyways, not sure why im mentioning this...just thinkin it might open a new door. thanks for reading

TekXoID · 13-July-03, 01:12 AM

Quote:


	Originally posted by LoginPrompt ok...so it works without crashing when set to pc133. I noticed an option: CPU Host / AGP Clk / PCI Clk - 111/74/37mhx - 114/76/38mhz - etc/etc/etc i got it to 1.66ghz at 111/74/37mhz, but if i go any higher my sound card no longer works. i have no idea why. anyways, not sure why im mentioning this...just thinkin it might open a new door. thanks for reading

Try to run your AGP at 66MHz and PCI at 33MHz, the stock speeds, overclocking AGP or PCI causes severe system instability and barely any performance increase.
If you cannot lower your AGP to 66MHz or PCI to 33MHz, or really close to those clocks, you should not overclock at all.

LoginPrompt · 13-July-03, 01:15 AM

i cant change the values,they where all preset configurations to choose from...

ex.} - 111/74/37mhz
- 114/76/38mhz
- 115/77/39mhz
etc.

piscikeeper · 13-July-03, 01:15 AM

your sound is running @37mhz,when 33mhz is spec for it.in other words the entire system is being o/c'ed the same.if it's possible to change the pci divider ,you might be able to push it further.

edit-dammned dial-up.points to tex

TekXoID · 13-July-03, 01:23 AM

Quote:


	Originally posted by LoginPrompt i cant change the values,they where all preset configurations to choose from... ex.} - 111/74/37mhz - 114/76/38mhz - 115/77/39mhz etc.

Compare the stability issues and life depletion of overclocked expansion cards to the performance increase you get out of overclocking, which, in my opinion, is not substantial enough to justify overclocking at all.
Bottom Line: Best just stick to stock clocks.

12-July-03, 06:53 PM		#1 (permalink)
LoginPrompt Apex Techie Wannabe	Just started Hey im new to overclocking..iv been trying to read as much as possible on it. I follwed a guide on a website and got my P4 1.5ghz up to 1.66. any thing after that locks up the system. Anyways, there where a few options in the BIOS setup i didnt understand and may be holding me back. Advanced Chipset Features -Memory Frequency For -Auto -pc100 -pc133 Frequency/Voltage Control -Cpu Clock Ratio -auto -x10 -x11 -x12 -etc. I followed the guide on http://www.tweaktown.com/document.ph...=guide&dId=192 but some of the features are not the same. thanx for any help.

13-July-03, 01:15 AM		#13 (permalink)
piscikeeper Apex Tech Fanatic	your sound is running @37mhz,when 33mhz is spec for it.in other words the entire system is being o/c'ed the same.if it's possible to change the pci divider ,you might be able to push it further. edit-dammned dial-up.points to tex Last edited by piscikeeper; 13-July-03 at 01:26 AM..

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12-July-03, 09:11 PM		#2 (permalink)
TekXoID Banned	Your system is technically limited, I am suprised you even got a 160MHz overclock out of it. You obviously have a Socket 423 P4, this chip is quite limited, without upgrading your system mainboard and CPU, substaintial overclocks are not going to happen.

12-July-03, 09:23 PM		#3 (permalink)
M.D.K. Apex Tech Maniac Supreme	you have SDRAM on a 423? odd. anyway, you could try upgrading to a better HSF, as the stock intel ones are prettymuch **** if you want to OC.

12-July-03, 11:42 PM		#5 (permalink)
LoginPrompt Apex Techie Wannabe	thanx for the info...should i change from auto to pc133 in the Advanced Chipset Features? and/or move from auto to one of the multipliers(x10, x11, etc) in the CPU clock Ratio? thanx

13-July-03, 12:00 AM		#6 (permalink)
Slider Ghostrider	sure..switch to 133, and see if that's stable. If not, you'll have to set it back to 100. Same thing with your multiplier. You do know how to reset your cmos right?

13-July-03, 12:18 AM		#9 (permalink)
LoginPrompt Apex Techie Wannabe	thanx a lot guys

13-July-03, 01:07 AM		#10 (permalink)
LoginPrompt Apex Techie Wannabe	ok...so it works without crashing when set to pc133. I noticed an option: CPU Host / AGP Clk / PCI Clk - 111/74/37mhx - 114/76/38mhz - etc/etc/etc i got it to 1.66ghz at 111/74/37mhz, but if i go any higher my sound card no longer works. i have no idea why. anyways, not sure why im mentioning this...just thinkin it might open a new door. thanks for reading

13-July-03, 01:15 AM		#12 (permalink)
LoginPrompt Apex Techie Wannabe	i cant change the values,they where all preset configurations to choose from... ex.} - 111/74/37mhz - 114/76/38mhz - 115/77/39mhz etc.