Well, as I've been out of the loop for too long, I'm having to resort to posting a message even if it has been asked before.

Right now I'm considering a new machine and I'm looking for a high end chip to overclock...so I came down to the 2.8C and the 3.0 but I haven't read any reports on the greatness of the Pentium C's so I'm basically torn as to what will do better. I'd love to hear if anyone has had any experience with either chip or perhaps there is some overclocking review of such P4 chips. I'm getting sick of my stupid little 1.8 willamette and in this next iteration I shall be doing something more extreme like water-cooling or the newly researched submersion without HFE.

Only a bit of confusion over motherboards at the moment. I've already read a few reviews on the canterwood and a couple on the springdale and I'm pretty sure I've seen the canterwood pulling ahead unless my eyes were playing tricks on me, but I've read a couple times that the Springdale (865PE) is faster than the Canterwood (875P). Right now I'm gearing towards an ASUS canterwood board because of all the wonderful overclocking options and its apparent stability compared with other brands. The ASUS board appears to have about the best range in terms of how far you can change things like FSB, vcore, other random voltage settings.

So anyone have a definitive answer as to which chipset is faster?

(now I just hope I come back around and check this post rather than get caught up in planetside...)

I have an Asus p4c800 deluxe with a 3.0C p4 and 2 gigs of pc3200. I really love the whole setup. The board is nice overclocking is a little crappy but I did not buy top end memory. It is Kingston PC3200. I can clock the FSB to 220 before reaching stability problems. All in all I am very pleased with both the chip and board. Stock speeds will get me a 9000 on pc marks memory test. And I am getting close to 19000 on 3d mark 2001 w/ a 9800 pro.

The 875p chipset has the edge. it may be hard on the wallet but go with the best asus board money can buy with the canterwood 875p or the pe model. but toms hardware guide might help you to. www.tomshardware.com
Good luck

My "pimp rig":

Case: Xaser III-Black.
Power supply: 420 watt pure silent
Motherboard: Asus P4C800 Deluxe
CPU: Intel 3.0-800 mhtz
CPU Fan: Swiftech MCX4000 Heat sink
Ram: 2x512meg Corsair 400 mhtz (XMS-matched)
Video: ATI 9800 Pro 128 megs ram
Hard Drives: 2x serial ATA 8 meg cache 36gig 10KRPM (raptor)
OS: XP Pro

Unclocked I get over 10K from Sisoft Sandra.

Best OC so far is 3.611gigahertz with air cooling.

Temps get up to 127F per Asusprobe.

Just started getting into OCing so we will see what it gets to. Tried to hit 4 gig but was unstable

I like this rig and would recommend it to anyone!

Clan

I only recall there being an 875P but the springdales had P PE and G. Or at least that's the only one I've read about anywhere, and I had checked tomshardware already along with some other reviews which I scouted aorund for.

Guess I'll stick with a 3.0 on an ASUS P4C800 (since I did notice that the 3.0 with 800mhz FSB was also denoted as a 'C' type processor...which makes sense being there A as 400, B as 533, and now C as 800)

hey joker,
good to see that setup working,,,you kind of had me leaning
toward the same config,,now i am sold,,
Winterhawk

the 2.4c chip is the big OC champ for intel at the moment.

Clan,

Do a forum search for Xaser III.

There is a problem with the factory wiring of the top firewire ports on that case. Any bus powered devices (no seperate power cord) are destroyed by the ports as Thermaltake mixed up the 12V and ground wires.

Just a heads up.

Hey buzz, how so? whats the best overclock you've seen on air cooling?

Thanks for the heads up.
I coiled those wires up and stashed them above the power supply when I installed. Figured since I didn't have anything firwire it was less to install and made my insides a bit less cluttered

Something I was really impressed with are the new rounded cables...Boy do they make installing easier.

I looked around for a while and go a good shielded set off E-bay for $24.
There are alot of them there but most looked cheap. (like colored shrink wrap around regular ribbons)
Ones I got are well made and looks like the braided wire hoses you get for your car engine. Came with a UV light to make them glow in the dark. Another item to take up space in a drawer

When I figure out hoe to attach photos I will put on a pic of my sisoft results from today

Clan

clan, click new reply, there shold be an upload thingy there, says choose (button) under 100k, and presto

This was first try. Had some stuff running in the background so not top speed. Not overclocked. The results shown is from my POS laptop at work

Clan

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Hey, if you're gonna throw that UV light in a drawer, some of us need those things to complete mods...

Yes, a needy person like, hawklen! Yeah, give it to hawklen!

I was here first. My case has no lights. I'll bet you have one...

Yes, my Power/HD LED...and one led case fan...

you got me beat. No LED fans, and just external LEDs.

Actually I have a blue one sitting next to the UV one

Maybe we can work out a deal. I have lights but no fancy sig........

Clan

Well, I have parts, but no sig maker. TekXoID is the man for those, or RedHeaven has turned out some awesome ones..

But hey, PM me, tell me what you're after, we'll see if we can't do something...

This is my rig. pretty proud of it

Case: Xaser III-Black.
Power supply: 420 watt pure silent
Motherboard: Asus P4C800 Deluxe
CPU: Intel 3.0-800 mhtz
CPU Fan: Swiftech MCX4000 Heat sink
Ram: 2x512meg Corsair 400 mhtz (XMS-matched)
Video: ATI 9800 Pro 128 megs ram
Hard Drives: 2x serial ATA 8 meg cache 36gig 10KRPM (raptor)
In Raid 0
OS: XP Pro

I have the burners, DVD and Sb platinum stuff too but the stuff up top are the important things!

Some day I want to get some mods for cooling. Was looking at water but it is just too maint intensive. Thinking of putting one of those small portable ac units under the desk with the outflow near my fan intake......I 3 box in EQ so it gets hot around my desk anyway.