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Old 02-September-05, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am fixing my cousins dinousaur Packard Bell Club 600C desktop.

Its a Celeron 600Mhz, 128Mb ram and XPpro.
the mobo it uses is a Gigabyte GA-6WMM7 rev2.0.

Im wondering how i get into the Bios and also what i can safely overclock the cpu using the standard cpu fan.

Thanks!

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Old 02-September-05, 07:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I use to have a Packard Bell it was a 66Mhz P1 with a 420 MB hard drive and a 32 MB of RAM!!!
Good luck OCing that thing.........
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Old 02-September-05, 07:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Packard Bell made it to the days of the FCPGA Celeron?

anyway I'm assuming it's standard ATX, Del. should get you into BIOS but if not I think F1 or F3 is BIOS on a PH.
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Old 02-September-05, 07:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am fixing my cousins dinousaur Packard Bell Club 600C desktop.


Its a Celeron 600Mhz, 128Mb ram and XPpro.
the mobo it uses is a Gigabyte GA-6WMM7 rev2.0.

Im wondering how i get into the Bios and also what i can safely overclock the cpu using the standard cpu fan.

Thanks!



Linky here. bios help
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Old 02-September-05, 07:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i have an old P2 333 that is clocked to 450 easily in the Bios.

Cant seem to find the same setting in this PC though
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Old 02-September-05, 07:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Linky here. bios help

Thanks, i got into the bios, but cant find the 'multiplier'

Any tips!
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Old 02-September-05, 08:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks, i got into the bios, but cant find the 'multiplier'

Any tips!

That will have dip switches.





Or jumpers.

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Old 12-September-05, 01:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Its a Celeron 600Mhz, 128Mb ram and XPpro.
the mobo it uses is a Gigabyte GA-6WMM7 rev2.0.

If you get the chance, add at least another 128MB ram on that puppy. I just re-built a 600MHz machine w/ 128 MB RAM, and it was dog slow from memory access, rather than CPU. (Okay, yeah, the cpu was crap and needed some oc, but the RAM dragged it all the way down.)

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Old 12-September-05, 01:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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With any socket 370 that supports 600MHz and beyond, your looking more at the BIOS for settings than DIP/Jumper switches. Should be fairly easy, just don't expect to find any voltage selections
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Old 12-September-05, 05:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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That will have dip switches.
Or jumpers.

It has no dip switches, and the manual shows it should have jumpers, but the jumper pins have been removed (presumably for packard bell)

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If you get the chance, add at least another 128MB ram on that puppy. I just re-built a 600MHz machine w/ 128 MB RAM, and it was dog slow from memory access, rather than CPU. (Okay, yeah, the cpu was crap and needed some oc, but the RAM dragged it all the way down.)

Its only got 2 spots for ram, and origainally only had 64mb of ram, I then added another 64 making it 128.
But yes, i agree totally, i have to find 2x 128Mb ram sticks for this dinosaur!

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With any socket 370 that supports 600MHz and beyond, your looking more at the BIOS for settings than DIP/Jumper switches. Should be fairly easy, just don't expect to find any voltage selections

I have been all through the bios, there is no multiplier there.
The jumpers would have allowed to change the clock speed from 66Mhz to 100Mhz but i am presuming that it was already locked to 100Mhz (6x 100Mhz)

Can i upgrade the Bios? Perhaps then it would have a multiplier in the bios!
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Old 12-September-05, 05:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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no, celerons ran with a 66mhz FSB. so its a 9x multi. Most celerons crapped out at the 83mhz fsb area or 750mhz in your case. at stock voltage anyway.

right in that area though did the core of the celeron change. 533's were black and 566's had 2 versions. one that would work in slockets and one that wouldnt. its kinda creapy but I have 2 sets of celerons both 566 speed but one is 1.5v and the other is 1.7v and some reason the 1.5v version overclocks great (i have one running at 110fsb, 943mhz) but the 1.7 was the red-headed stepchild. dont worry about over voting it. As long as its kept cool it wont hurt doing 2.2v.

just makre sure you have the mostt recent bios for the board. And downlaod the manual while you are at it. if all else fails RTFM.
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Old 12-September-05, 05:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have to agree with luckybob. And the 1.7v models ran hotter so that's why they didn't OC as well. If you'll download the manual as luckybob suggested you'll find out about the jumpers if there are any. As a Packard Bell it may not have any. The less options they give you the less tech support they have to give out from tinkering. And they figured most people would have to upgrade sooner with no options to make it faster. I hate Packard Bell, Gateway, Dell etc... just for this reason.
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Old 12-September-05, 06:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i downloaded the Gigabyte GA-6WMM7 rev2.0 manual and it shows where the pins are supposed to be, but thats it, the pins were never inserted into the mobo, so no increasing the fsb speed.

Thats why i was hoping for a bios upgrade to help adjust the clock speed! Aparently the Gigabyte GA-6WMM7 rev2.0 supports dual bios, but i never got that deep into it!

Anyone happen to have a good knowledge about this mobo?

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Old 13-September-05, 11:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Does she look like that?

If so then you 'overclocking' options are limited to the little blue switches right of the chipset. OR softFSB.
It is my honest opinion that intel made the i810 in an effort to thwart overclockers. Even Asus went with Via chipsets at the time for theire flagship board.
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Old 13-September-05, 02:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It has no dip switches, and the manual shows it should have jumpers, but the jumper pins have been removed (presumably for packard bell)


Its only got 2 spots for ram, and origainally only had 64mb of ram, I then added another 64 making it 128.
But yes, i agree totally, i have to find 2x 128Mb ram sticks for this dinosaur!


I have been all through the bios, there is no multiplier there.
The jumpers would have allowed to change the clock speed from 66Mhz to 100Mhz but i am presuming that it was already locked to 100Mhz (6x 100Mhz)

Can i upgrade the Bios? Perhaps then it would have a multiplier in the bios!

If you can solder jumpers into place, that'd work. Otherwise, soldering wire jumpers across the pads or carefully using conductive paint would work too.
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Old 14-September-05, 04:36 AM   #16 (permalink)
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here is a pdf file to the manual!
Check page 4, which shows the jumper location.

I wouldnt solder any pins but i like the idea about soldering wires across the pads, (at least its easily removable!
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Old 14-September-05, 07:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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here is a pdf file to the manual!
Check page 4, which shows the jumper location.

I wouldnt solder any pins but i like the idea about soldering wires across the pads, (at least its easily removable!

Adding pins would make it easier to revert your settings back to default though without requiring desoldering. Just be sure to use a low-temperature silver-bearing solder and use the lowest-temperature soldering iron possible so that you don't risk overheading the G-10 substrate or any surrounding components on the board. If you want to use the least invasive means of setting the clock jumper, I'd recommend that you use conductive paint such as the compound used in the Socket A unlocking kits run it across a thin strip of tape. If you were to need to break the connection, use a utility blade to sever the bridge of paint at the edges of the tape and pull up the strip of tape.
I still remember the days when it was cheaper to repair a failed motherboard than to replace it.....
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Old 15-September-05, 07:26 AM   #18 (permalink)
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there is the option of soldering pins back onto the motherboard, but whats to say the circuitry for the multiplier etc are there? 370 boards go cheap these days hint hint....
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Old 15-September-05, 01:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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there is the option of soldering pins back onto the motherboard, but whats to say the circuitry for the multiplier etc are there? 370 boards go cheap these days hint hint....

You do have a point there. With a newer s370 board you might even find one with a bios capable of recognizing the VIA CPUs that use s370 (perhaps an upgrade path for even more overclocking? ).
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