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Old 17-June-05, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy 3.2 prescott w/ 1g tccd g-skill...help

ok had this rig running for about a 2.5 weeks now...ive had it at 3.9ghz when i was screwin around at 3am...since then ive had to clear the cmos now i cant remember how i got it... ....

im water cooling w/ 1/2 tubing polarflo tt series pump and mathcing block. using 3 ports.
and black ice pro 2 rad.
prescott 3.2
1g g-skill 3200 (tccd)
abit ic7 max 3

now im at 3.68ghz, my fsb is at 230 (16x), v-core is 1.32, and timings 2.5-4-4-8 voltage at 2.65 i just did fsb increase from 200. ( i know timings can get way better.)

im tryin to get to 4.o ghz but i remember it wouldnt boot after 3.98. i know its because im not realy good w/ ram settings, and ive doen reseach too, and watched that corsair video. im just in the dark about them so some walk through would be good to get this rig stable at 3.9 +. ive ran 3d mark 03 at 3.8ghz and it ran fine.
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Old 17-June-05, 08:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ok had this rig running for about a 2.5 weeks now...ive had it at 3.9ghz when i was screwin around at 3am...since then ive had to clear the cmos now i cant remember how i got it... ....

im water cooling w/ 1/2 tubing polarflo tt series pump and mathcing block. using 3 ports.
and black ice pro 2 rad.
prescott 3.2
1g g-skill 3200 (tccd)
abit ic7 max 3

now im at 3.68ghz, my fsb is at 230 (16x), v-core is 1.32, and timings 2.5-4-4-8 voltage at 2.65 i just did fsb increase from 200. ( i know timings can get way better.)

im tryin to get to 4.o ghz but i remember it wouldnt boot after 3.98. i know its because im not realy good w/ ram settings, and ive doen reseach too, and watched that corsair video. im just in the dark about them so some walk through would be good to get this rig stable at 3.9 +. ive ran 3d mark 03 at 3.8ghz and it ran fine.

Not an Intel OCer but you might wana run a ram divider that way you dont hafta mess with the timings. Ram divider basically lets the mem run at a lower fsb .
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Old 17-June-05, 08:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Another way is to loosen up the timings all the way. Then memtest as you tighten them after you hit your 4GHz
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Old 18-June-05, 06:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Not an Intel OCer but you might wana run a ram divider that way you dont hafta mess with the timings. Ram divider basically lets the mem run at a lower fsb .

wtf is a ram divider....lol...is that the raio thing 1:1, 3:2, 5:4, ? because those are the only ones i have

amd oc is soooooo much easier.. and my v-core should never go above 1.7 right?
ram voltage can go to "..........." ( should go to ) i think i had it at 2.7 or so.

thanx for the help

~EDIIT~ ok i went in there and put the fsb to 250 (x16)
the ratio thing is at 1:1
v-core is 1.61
timings are at max @ 3-4-4-8
ram voltage is 2.7
then went through the black boot thing and it didnt detect a hard drive.........so its proly the ram?

oh yah off the subject but during boot it says my hd is ata 100, but its a maxtor 300g sata....any ideas

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Old 18-June-05, 01:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Don't run 1:1, that runs FSB = RAM. Try 3:2 and if that dont work 5:4.
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Old 19-June-05, 03:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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cool thanx

and what is N/B strap

i can chose either by cpu
or
100mhz / 400mhz
133mhz / 533mhz
166mhz / 667mhz
200mhz / 800mhz

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Old 04-July-05, 01:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I upgraded this rigs vid card to a xtacy x850xt PE. i ordered the ati silencer 5 rev.2. from newegg it should be here the 7th(because of holiday),plan to oc the vid card too, any new bios fro it that anyone has used yet?

i think i need to boost up to 1.6+ for vcore and 2.8 for the vdimm if this dosn't work to get 4ghz then ill turn this thing into a win 98' emulator rig.. and put a "warnig im pissed" case badge on it.
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Old 04-July-05, 02:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Which g.Skill RAM did you get? Some g.Skill is UTT and not TCCD. The UTT will need 3.2+ volts to run at it's best, it will, however, use 2-2-2-5/8 timings.

If it is TCCD then be warned; TCCD does not clock NEARLY was well with INtel as it does with the Athlon 64. This is just memory architecture. With Intel RAM speed is far more important than timings, yes there are trade off marks were latency beats mhz, but in general, go mhz. with TCCD that means 2.5-4-4-8 and see what happens, 3-4-4-8 is worth a shot too.

For starters thou, do drop the ram divider. I've been skimming so someone may have explained however I've got nothing better to do :p. The RAM divider sets your RAM speed. It is devised, like many others important frequencies, from the Front Side Bus. The 3:2 is a great place to start out OC'ing because it drops the RAM frequency low enough that it ought never really hurt your CPU overclock.

Finally, you said you have a 3.2 right? And with that mobo it means your still socket 478, that's not a bad thing. But the 4ghz air and water INtel clocks are coming more from the lga775 based Intel processors, specifically the 6X0 and the 5X0J series. The 3ghz+ modes (X30 and up) seem to be the procs most often getting there.

Point being, if your not getting 4ghz dont do something stupid like dramatically overvolt and kill your CPU. The early prescotts (what I think you have) had issues overclocking.

Good luck with that X850XT PE though (hope you got the AGP version )
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Old 05-July-05, 06:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks a hole lot. it is tccd samsung ram its a sticker on the sticks. ive booted in 4ghz before a few weeks ago(not stable, shut off durring boot-up) when i was screwin around but i cant remember all the settings i did. and that same night i was playing doom3 at 3.98ghz (stable 2+hrs)but i was on 36 hours no sleep so i dont even no what the hell i did to get it. now i am able to get 3.8 but anytime i go any further it wont boot. so i should just screw around w/ the divider some more w. diff settings to see what happens ill start posting cpuz for progress. the hole goal of this is just to boot into windows at 4ghz and be able to get a cpuz, just for me. i know ill proly not be able actually operate a game or rip a cd. but the fact that i am able to be game stable at 3.98 but not 4 is wierd. its only 2ghz.

so the furthest ive gone w/ this ram is 2.7v could this be holding me back? i think ill try 2.8 and 2.9 but i dont want to kill this ram , its NOT being made any more, stupid samsung people.

and yes it is AGP, gc16 samsung ram. its a xtacy, got for 400 at frys electronics. i thought it was a good deal, beats newegg by 40 bucks +s/h. but im fallowing the 7800, it has 308million transistors, the x850xt only has like 160+. and 24 pipelines compared to 16 holy crap. This card will hold up for a while so no upgrade -"needed"- any time soon.

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Old 05-July-05, 08:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have used over 3v with my TCCD, but this was at over 300FSB...the early versions didn't like volts at all. The new stuff doesn't realy need a whole lot though, in most cases 2.9v is plenty.

yes, 2MHZ can make all the difference in the world, I have hit that wall...so close...so FRUSTRATING!

Highest bootable speed is usually around 50-200MHZ over what you can actually call "Stable"

Wich I break down a few ways... there's "Bootable" wich might take a screeenie but craps out when programs are opened. (3GHZ on my 4000+ rev E)

"Benchmark Stable " is long enough to test for around 5-10minutes under full load using 3DMARK, but might error out later, or not be able to repeat the test back to back. (2950-2880 depending on temps and the benchmark itself)

"Daily Use" should be able to run for days on end with multiple apps running (Wich is around 2850-2800MHZ for me)

I use Folding@Home, and Prime 95 to test for rock $SOLID$ daily use, I use Super Pi (1MB) as a quick test of stability and 3DMARK 05~01 for "ORB" racing. I also use Speed Fan to monitor my temps, speaking of wich...

The best way to increase your clock is to drop the CPU temp, If you can place your rig right next to an AC unit outlet, you might get your screenie

You can also try using Clock Gen once you have booted around 3.9ghz, it will just freeze up and need a reboot if you go to far.

http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php#support

EDIT:BTW great advice Arkangyl, rep for ya!

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Old 06-July-05, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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wow so thats oc'ing from the desktop..nice..my mobo isn't supported though

so ill take the vdimm up to 2.9 fsb to 250 and vcore to 1.6+ and divder to 3/2 at loose settings and see what that does, ill post results about the 7th or 8th, cause my vid card is bare right now waiting for a coool new jacket from arctic cooling.

oh yeah on the subject of vid card i found two little tiny switches on the back of my x850xtpe and havent been able to figure out what the heck they are/do.
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Old 06-July-05, 05:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think thats for the video out...like..NTSC and PAL are the options..here is some google.

NTSC

The first colour TV broadcast system was implemented in the United States in 1953. This was based on the NTSC (National Television System Committee) standard. NTSC is used by many countries on the American continent as well as many Asian countries including Japan.
NTSC runs on 525 lines/frame.


PAL

The PAL (Phase Alternating Line) standard was introduced in the early 1960's and implemented in most countries except for France.European
The PAL standard utilises a wider channel bandwidth than NTSC which allows for better picture quality. PAL runs on 625 lines/frame.
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Old 07-July-05, 03:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think thats for the video out...like..NTSC and PAL are the options..here is some google.

NTSC

The first colour TV broadcast system was implemented in the United States in 1953. This was based on the NTSC (National Television System Committee) standard. NTSC is used by many countries on the American continent as well as many Asian countries including Japan.
NTSC runs on 525 lines/frame.


PAL

The PAL (Phase Alternating Line) standard was introduced in the early 1960's and implemented in most countries except for France.European
The PAL standard utilises a wider channel bandwidth than NTSC which allows for better picture quality. PAL runs on 625 lines/frame.

awsome. thanx so that is for when i aquire a tv tuner , so it will allow the card to combine with it. and might eaven be for the vivo also. rep too ya.....as soon as i figure out how to hand it out

And back to the oc'ing topic., ive figured out that it IS the temp that is holding me back. because when i was hitting 3.8 and 3.9 a few weeks ago it was alot cooler outside and in my room, because now im having trouble even hitting 3.8 which i was able to to without even trying but now im not able to 3.8 at all so im getting my A/C out of storage and am going to homedepot to get some big'ol ducting and then see where i stand. here are the cpuz i promissed, i have hit 3.79 also but forgot to cpuz it. it was 237 fsb. and thanx again you guys.
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